Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Keerthi sagathia

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was, marginally, keep, and more work needs to be put into the article to improve its standard. Der yck C. 17:01, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keerthi sagathia

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Lack of sources on this person means fails WP:GNG, It reads like a promotional piece written by an a friend (maybe even WP:G11). Mt king ^(edits) 08:32, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Having song for that many films, you'd assume he got coverage somewhere. Clicking Google news archive search at the top of this AFD, I see ample results.

The Hindu [1] The album couldn't have started on a better note. “Marhaba” by young Bollywood singer Keerthi Sagathia, is a classic example of Sufi meets Bollywood meets classic Rock. So he is in fact a Bollywood singer. I'll look through the rest, to see what else I can find. Dream Focus 10:15, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:14, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - fails WP:GNG. VasuVR (talk, contribs) 02:07, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep - Per coverage in The Hindu and Filmfare Magazine. Northamerica1000^(talk) 03:41, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Which of those are the Significant coverage called for in WP:GNG; they are mentions and nothing more. Mt king ^(edits) 07:08, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Both provide coverage beyond a passing mention or trivial coverage. However, they may not be the most significant in terms of comprehensive coverage just about this individual. Hence, the !vote for "weak keep." See also: WP:BASIC, "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may not be sufficient to establish notability." Northamerica1000^(talk) 07:37, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

One Doubt: Do we consider multiple film enteries under IMDB's profile as notable? Kirti Sagathia -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 12:13, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Generally no. Diego (talk) 12:43, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Article needs substantial work to address tone issues. However, sourcing supplied strongly suggests notability, and there are quite a few smaller hits on GNews to back up the limited sourcing that is more substantial in depth of coverage. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 04:26, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It might suggest notability but none of the sources actually demonstrates it, as you accepted here. Mt king ^(edits) 07:08, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The sources in the article have been expanded since I posted that, and as such my opinion has changed. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 13:59, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. Diego (talk) 12:34, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep per wp:SNOWFLAKE and WP:NRVE - Filmfare is an important reliable source for indian films, and the article is significant coverage with critical commentary. Together with the number of works in which he performs, this creates a reasonable presumption for the existence of non-english reliable sources. Diego (talk) 12:49, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There also exists An interview with Delhi Belly singer Keerthi Sagathia by BBC Asian Network's Gagan Grewal (previously ~~available? here?~~) which reinforces the possibility of non-english coverage (a 'keep' criteria per Wikipedia:NRVE#NRVE) even if we don't have access to it. It's still weak evidence, so I can see this being closed as 'no consensus' to be reevaluated in a few months; this would give native speakers the chance to find reliable sources in hindi. Diego (talk) 13:04, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This article has been viewed 401 times since it was started 7 days ago, and ten different individuals have been involved in editing it. If the article is removed it may dismay some of the readers and discourage those who contributed from further participating in Wikipedia where editors are not compensated financially for their contributions.

The article needs work, but this should not be a reason to remove it. Ottawahitech (talk) 04:44, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In fairness, none of those are reasons to keep it, either :). ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 05:26, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I was resisting the urge to comment on any discussion listed at the ARS page, but this is something that I cannot let go. When I saw the username I immediately Googled it and, based on Keerthi's Facebook page, Ginseng's comment at the list was dead-on. Rakhi Sagathia is the General Manager and Press Contact for Keerthi Sagathia.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 06:29, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Aye, not terribly surprising given the tone of the article (and the editor's name, natch). Definitely needs some cleanup if kept. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 18:57, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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