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The result was delete. Jayjg (talk) 03:50, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

His Holiness Ramesh Baba ji

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Contested prod about a "renounced saint" (I'm not even sure what that means) that fails WP:BIO. All the citations lead to YouTube (or YouTube-like) sites, and the article reads like a big promotional piece. I know there is a category for internet personalities, but the subject does not seem to belong in that category because nothing comes up about him in Gnews either. Erpert (let's talk about it) 14:49, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Shri Ramesh Baba Ji is a well known personality in Braj region of India - The birth place of Lord Krishna Braj is 240 sq KM area spread across 3 different states Haryana, Uttar Pradesh, and Rajasthan visited by 80 million Krishna devotees from all over the world. About 100 years ago, this region used to maintain ecological balance among natural elements such as water, temperature, mountains, greenary etc. However in last 60 years or so the local governments have started commercial activities such as distributing the mountain area on lease for mining which alone has causeed serious damage to the area. He was only person standing alone against it. With his restless continious efforts for over 50 years, the mountain area is now handed over to the forest department. This will contribute to making the region green and healthy.

You can see glimpses of the movement in following link which contains local media coverage of the issue:

[[1]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brajdhamseva (talk • contribs) 12:31, 20 March 2010 (UTC) — Brajdhamseva (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Delete - This article is no way encyclopedic and promotes an individual. Nefirious (talk) 14:55, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do not Delete -- This article documents efforts to preserve environment in a neglected area. Links are pointing to the individual leading the effort throuh "creative" techniques, hence the personality should be considered a creative professional. There are many news items in the US and Indian News media about this effort that are inspired by Ramesh Babaji. The commentator in these video clips is not Ramesh Babaji. See these video clips at [2]. Furthermore, R.K. Pachauri, the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize winner has now recently promised to support the efforts started by Ramesh Babaji. It is encyclopedic, not promotional. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Geeta.mandir (talk • contribs) 15:06, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The link you just pointed out talks about a follower of Ramesh, not Ramesh himself. And R.K. Pachauri has promised to support the efforts? Where are the sources that state this? Erpert (let's talk about it) 17:56, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • One more thing: online video sites (like Dailymotion and Google Video) are not reliable sources. Erpert (let's talk about it) 18:01, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment "Interesting point is that he does NOT ask any kind of monetory or any other type of help from anybody. He lives his life with total dedication and dependence on Shri Radha Rani. Whatever is needed to accomplish the task automatically come to him.

This makes him an extra ordinary saint." Once upon a time, it mightn't have done. Nowadays, most 'holy' people seem to be quite keen on the collections.... Unfortunately, this article is very short on reliable references and high on peacock phrases. YouTube and so on are not acceptable references. What is needed is referencing from independent sources that are not editable. Also needed is a toning down of the adulation (or promotion) of the text of the article. Had I found the article, I'd probably have tagged it as spam. Peridon (talk) 18:27, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strong Strong Strong Very Very Strong DO NOT DELETE It seems like the voices of 3 different non-profit "independent" organizations that have nothing to do with the personality and represent hundreds and thousands of volunteers in US and in India who have very limited access to even a single meal of a day what to talk about "media" is not sufficient here. And you are right Shri Ramesh baba ji is an "extra ordinary" person and to understand an extra ordinary, you need to have extra ordinary vision, mind, and brain which, I sense, is missing here...it is really unfortunate that efforts of those who are trying to become voice of thousands of ordinary people, and not "followers" are being judged by some who are spiritually empty...As some body correctly mentioned in the article, that in Radha Rani Braj Yatra (A holy journey of Braj), over 15,000 very poor and deprived people are served and fed, not just food for physical body, but food for soul as well, for 40 days without charging a single penny...not only that he never asks for money from anybody ever...and its being going on for over 20 years....this is just one event...there are scores of such events that take place every year....hundreds of thousands of poor are served with food, cloths, lodging, health care, monetary benefits etc....these are the people who do NOT have voices like us who sit in the AC room or AC luxary car and browse though their network enabled iPhone or iPad and laptops and drop a couple of videos and blog posts on the net....yes you are right....such an extra ordinary thing...for people like us whose life is full of materialism, it is more than a sin to judge him... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.91.92.142 (talk) 23:31, 23 March 2010 (UTC) — 70.91.92.142 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
  • EXTRA Strong Strong KEEP - I don't care anymore whether Wiki keeps this article or not. Exclusion of Shri Ramesh Baba Ji from Wikipedia will it make "Weakpedia" only....Wiki will be UNFORTUNATE to miss his achievements and his personality. I would STRONGLY suggest the "Delete" supporter to do some research about his personality...by the way...he does NOT need any website to promote or support his selfless dedicated life...a selfless Karma is powerful enough make your presence felt.....I know we are short of numbers today...but the day will come when WIKI it will will ask for the information...it will be full of HIS achievements.... Radhe Radhe — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.91.92.142 (talk • contribs)
  • Delete This individual is not notable, and there are no RS to prove otherwise. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 02:56, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment This comment is for THE NEW ACCOUNTS AND VISITORS WHO HAVEN'T EDITED ANYTHING ELSE. Please note that this is a discussion not a voting session. Ranting will do no good. NOR WILL BOLD CAPITALS. Comments that only give your support without evidence will most probably be ignored - and can harm your side'd case. If you have some evidence - not blogs, forums etc - please give it. It's up to YOU to show notability, not us. Peridon (talk) 20:19, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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