Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hazrat Najeeb Sultan

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The result was delete. J04n(talk page) 23:49, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hazrat Najeeb Sultan

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Non-notable BLP and puff piece. Google search reveals many Facebook and Youtube pages, a few Blogspot, Twitter and Flickr pages, this site which contains user-submitted content (in this case only a jpeg and a link to his home page), and various links to different people, living and dead. News and books link only to Facebook and news items about different people. --Stfg (talk) 10:40, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:15, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:15, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:16, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Strong keep Google is not the key for notability. Sometimes local religious figures particularly in South Asia have less internet appearance and we should consider avoiding systemic bias. The subject is the spiritual master of singer Abida Parveen [1]. A more in depth search is advised.[2], [3], [4], [5] etc. Mrwikidor ←track 05:33, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I took this to AFD rather than PROD for just this reason. Thank you for your help in seeking out sources. However, your second link is about a different person, the 17th-century Sufi saint, author and poet Sultan Bahu. Your third link is to a report of a case in the Pakistani Supreme Court in which he was one of three who were petitioned against in a case concerning Sultan Bahu's shrine; the report only states who won and who represented him in court. (I found both these already, in fact.) Your remaining three links ([6] , [7] , [8]) all contain copies of the same three sentences identifying him as Abida Parveen's spritual guide and the inspiration for an album by her. Any of these three could be used as source for the last entry in Abida Parveen#Discography and possibly even a sentence in Abida Parveen#Personal life. But none of these five links seem to meet the requirement of WP:GNG that "Significant coverage" means that sources address the subject directly in detail. --Stfg (talk) 12:56, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 14:38, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I could only find social media and passing mentions. Nothing close to meeting WP:GNG. I did go thru before the AfD and deleted the "references". The references were to Sufism or passing mention of Sultan that didn't backup what was being sourced. Bgwhite (talk) 07:00, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete. No reliable sources come even close to establishing the notability of this individual. On top of that, the overly positive nature of the article's tone and the fact that the article's creator also uploaded a photo which he personally took of the subject (check the photo) paints a picture of a user creating an article about some local spiritual leader he knows personally. Fails WP:GNG, WP:NOT#FANSITE and Wikipedia:Notability (people) big time. MezzoMezzo (talk) 05:44, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.