Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fulda Cessna crash

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The result was delete. Sandstein 11:43, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fulda Cessna crash

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Only two casualties from a minor Cessna crash. Doesn't pass WP:EVENT. Brandmeister^talk 15:18, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions. KCVelaga (talk) 15:41, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. KCVelaga (talk) 15:41, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:RAPID. Cessna crashes are usually not notable. However, when light aircraft crash into a crowd on the ground - killing 3 people and injuring several more (all fatalities on the ground, the aircraft occupants were lightly injured / shocked) - one possibly has an exception. In this particularly case, this very recent crash (from 14 October) has garnered wide international coverage (in addition to the copious German coverage) - e.g. Reuters, Independent, BBC. At this point evaluating future effects (e.g. on airport procedures) and coverage requires crystall balling on our part, and given the very wide present coverage - per WP:RAPID we should retain the article. Icewhiz (talk) 16:10, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:NOTNEWS. I'd say if any lasting impact comes out of this, the article could be re-created. In the absence thereof there's no point in keeping. Brandmeister^talk 01:09, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 17:46, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I created this article due to the unusual nature of the crash and the extensive press coverage. Such crashes are rare and the death toll is comparable to many other articles. No Swan So Fine (talk) 18:56, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Those other articles about crashes that have a comparable death toll almost always involve larger aircraft. I may also point out there is a precedence for not having an article about a small plane crashing into a crowd with a comparable death toll as this crash. Its the 1985 crash of a Beechcraft Baron doing a go around at Buchanan Field Airport back in 1985. The plane crashed into a shopping mall not far from the end of the runway. The three occupants of the plane died and 84 people on the ground were injured. That crash has no article of its own and is only mentioned on the article for the airport. Based on that precedence, I say this crash should be mentioned only on the article for the airport the plane was trying to land at. - Omega13a (talk) 06:16, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, WP:NOTNEWS. Unlikely that many people will be interested in this one in a year. —Kusma (t·c) 08:39, 19 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOTNEWS. Tragic but no enduring notability and this is not a memorial site.Charles (talk) 08:07, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Cessna 172#Accidents and incidents which already describes eight others. Narky Blert (talk) 16:10, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not every C172 accident is notable. A search of the NTSB database for Cessna 172 returns 11718 entries. -- RoySmith (talk) 12:40, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The quality of the article alone is simply too bad to keep it.

"crashed into a crowd of people in Fulda": Fulda is a city of 70 000 inhabitants, situated more than 20 km away.
Not 2 adults and one child was killed, but v.v.
Not 8 people were injued, but only the 4 occupants of the Cessna (slightly).
An aircraft cannot "try to land" - it's usually the pilot.

Once an article about Wasserkuppe Airfield has been created, this accident might be mentioned there, but certainly not as a standalone article. --Uli Elch (talk) 19:55, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – although the circumstances of this accident are slightly unusual in that light aircraft rarely cause multiple fatalities on the ground, in the end it's one of hundreds of non-notable accidents occurred to a light single-engine. There was a Cirrus SR22 that killed a man on a beach while landing deadstick, a few years ago, and that didn't get an article either. --Deeday-UK (talk) 23:59, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as WP:NOTNEWS. -- RoySmith (talk) 12:40, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.