Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Federal prosecution of Eric Adams

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The result was merge‎ to Investigations into the Eric Adams administration. Star Mississippi 01:02, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Federal prosecution of Eric Adams

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This is largely the same as [Investigations into the Eric Adams administration], so one of these pages should really be deleted, or they should be merged. The undeveloped content on this page is merely a "legalise" version of what already exists on the other page. Nmarshall25 (talk) 23:58, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Law and United States of America. Nmarshall25 (talk) 23:58, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime, Politics, and New York. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:02, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Criminal_investigations_into_the_Eric_Adams_administration: they both really go in one article. They are similar enough. Oaktree b (talk) 00:19, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Criminal_investigations_into_the_Eric_Adams_administration would indeed be the wisest option here. No need for duplication involving this subject. TH1980 (talk) 01:24, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per above - seems redundant. That said, in the long term it's likely the best outcome will be to merge most of the "criminal investigations" article into the main Adams article (trimmed) and recreate this one, since it's easily going to be the most substantial. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 13:31, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong oppose: The indictment and resulting trial (assuming there will be one) is in itself historic and should merit an article under Wikipedia's notability guidelines. The criminal investigations page is a broader view on the topic, and concerns investigations into Adams' staff (for example, ex-NYPD Commissioner Edward Caban) and is not singularly focused unto Adams. The Trump fake electors plot and the prosecutions stemming from said plot underscore and illustrate why this should be a standalone article. If we were to follow what the above users are saying, we should also be discussing merging Donald Trump's Jan 6. case and documents case into the already existing "indictments against Donald Trump" page, or even merging it into "legal affairs of Donald Trump" or into the main Trump page. There are large parallels here. Trump is a former POTUS, while Adams is a sitting mayor of the most populous city of the U.S., elected there by millions of New Yorkers. This should warrant its own article. --WellThisIs TheReaper ^Grim 17:34, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore, staying on topic here, the charges filed against Trump in regards to the Jan 6. case and the documents case stemmed from the Smith special counsel investigation, which I'd say is similar to the "Eric Adams administration investigation" page. --WellThisIs TheReaper ^Grim 17:39, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The difference between merging these pages into the indictments against Donald Trump page, and merging these into Trump's main page, is substantial. It wouldn't be appropriate for Trump's page for several reasons including WP:NPOV and WP:SIZERULE (since Trump's page is already very long, and there is enough info about these legal cases for them to stand alone as their own articles, or even under a "indictments" article). It might be appropriate to merge the various indictments into the indictments against Donald Trump if these indictments are, themselves, better covered under these pages. These indictments all seem to have significant enough amounts of detail to warrant their own articles, rather than a single "indictments" article.

By contrast, the article about Adams's federal indictment seems to be duplicating info found in the Investigations into the Eric Adams administration page. In fact, the Adams federal indictment page is empty except for the lead. – Epicgenius (talk) 19:51, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That can be fixed, provided someone has the time and resources necessary to work on and build out the page. --WellThisIs TheReaper ^Grim 20:51, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that it can be fixed. However, until that happens, one option is to merge the article, without any prejudice against splitting it back out at a later date. – Epicgenius (talk) 16:56, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Investigations into the Eric Adams administration per above. I do not see the need to have two separate articles on the topic, which could really be one article per WP:NOPAGE. – Epicgenius (talk) 18:31, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge — Per Weiss special counsel investigation. Articles about investigations can sustain prosecutions. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 17:07, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I could argue the same for, say, the Smith special counsel investigation or the Mueller special counsel investigation (in regards to United States v. Flynn). --WellThisIs TheReaper ^Grim 03:06, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per above Andre🚐 01:19, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm leaning on keep, since this is a specific investigation as opposed to broader set of investigations surrounding Adams. I like if some of the stuff in Investigations into the Eric Adams administration to be moved into this article, primarily the section on 'Responses to the indictment', but also the indictment itself. This is one is a big deal worthy of its own article, and I think the other one would deliver information on the three (or how ever many else) other investigations. SWinxy (talk) 02:29, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think this is potentially notable and a historic case, but as an elections officer for the City, I’m not !voting. Bearian (talk) 09:29, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Investigations into the Eric Adams administration, per rationale of other merge !voters above. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 16:15, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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