Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cornerstone International School

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The result was delete‎. I see a consensus to Delete this article. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:16, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cornerstone International School

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Declined draft moved by original author. Article is about a school with no independent significant coverage from reliable sources. This fails WP:NORG. I am not opposed to this going back to draft if evidence that this private school is potentially notable is given. McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 03:05, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education and Nigeria. McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 03:05, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, this is wasting time in AFD, it should have been deleted via CSD A7. Ednabrenze (talk) 03:29, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:A7 specifically doesn't apply to education institutions. I think this is the right venue, although moving declined drafts to mainspace is what is time wasting. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:46, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:55, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify or else just delete it, and to be clear, if it were draftified and then moved to mainspace again without an accepted AfC submission, I would !vote to delete. I have tried searching, although the name is tricky as it is not unique. Adding Nigeria as a qualfier turns up almost nothing and nothing useful. Sources may exist that are not in English, but as it stands there is no demonstration of notability on the page, nor any other sources to consider. On the plus side, the school has been open nearly 30 years and appears to have a suitably large role that its notability within the area it serves may well be sufficient. Schools don't have to be internationally renowened to have a page, but they do need to be shown to be notable with reliable secondary sources. The page creator has added quite a lot of good history, but the sourcing on that is also unclear. The creator is new to Wikipedia, and perhaps unaware of the notability guidelines, and it would be unfortunate to waste their efforts by summarily deleting this page. I think draftify is appropriate in this case. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:12, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cornerstone International School is one of the most reputable and notable schools in port harcourt, Nigeria. You could try searching on Google for Cornerstone International School Port Harcourt. It is literally the biggest school in town which is why I was surprised when t wasn’t in the list of notable schools in port harcourt, category and then I decided to add it. The other schools in the area you can check also don’t have as reputable online sources except their website information because schools or anything not political rarely get written about online in that area of the world. I think yall are using your first world lenses a bit. That school is really renowned. 31.205.127.189 (talk) 08:42, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Asserting notability is not going to cut it at AfD. We need to find sources to demonstrate notability. Searching Google for "Cornerstone International School" "Port Harcourt" yields just 31 results (and 27 duplicates). I have reviewed them all, and none will do. Sources demonstrating notability must be independent, reliable secondary sources that significantly cover the school. Almost all of the 31 sources are not independent. Two news articles show up, being [1] and [2]. I have questions about reliability of the second, but these are moot because in each case the mention of the school is very much passing ("When the reporter arrived at the location, she met a Cornerstone international school, instead." is passing and just odd - I presume she means the water company address turned out to be a school, and the article is about the company. The school was just what she saw. "Edo-born Jss 1 student of Cornerstone International School, Port Harcourt launches herself into the music world" is about the student and does not discuss the school further). There is nothing in Google Scholar and no book mentions. So at this stage we have nothing, thus the delete !votes below.

Your comment about first world lenses is not wrong in my opinion, but it is poorly phrased as an accusation. I have noted before that it is generally much harder to show the notability of schools either in non English speaking communities or in Africa, and sometimes, with diligent searching, I have been able to show that a school that appears non notable is notable. I am perfectly willing to spend longer on such schools. However, The school is really renowned is not going to sway any opinion. If it is renowned, what coverage demonstrates this? Does it go by another name? Are there sources in another language? I note it is listed in this French language listing of schools [3], but that one I have already considered because it goes by its English language name. But perhaps there are sources we are missing. If you want to save this, and have it draftified, you need to help with the source search, because at this point I am stumped. Without sources, the !voters below are correct to argue for deletion. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:01, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete : There is no point draftifying since the article creator believes the subject is notable. I have done my research on Google. The school might be popular in Port Harcourt but fails to meet WP:GNG. All the media on the article page was uploaded 25 August 2024 which was yesterday. So there is something fishy that is either the article creator created another account to upload the images or he or she knows the creator of those images, they both work in hands. All media should be deleted as well as they do not proof owner of self publish work but gotten from either the school website or from images uploaded already by someone on google.--Gabriel (……?) 11:49, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: fails WP:NSCHOOL. Draftifying is pointless if it there is no sign of notability. Tagged the images for deletion on Commons. C F A 💬 23:30, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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