Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Club Mahindra Holidays

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The result was no consensus. – Juliancolton | ^Talk 00:22, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Club Mahindra Holidays

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Fails WP:NCORP and has a history of continuous addition of promotional content. WP:PROD removed without citing a reason (by a MACid) Ajf773 (talk) 21:54, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Ajf773 (talk) 21:54, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Ajf773 (talk) 21:54, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Improve Club Mahindra is a notable company and brand. The article in its current state cannot be on wikipedia. However if it is improved and relevent citations are added to correctly present various useful information about this company, It would be a good value addition.C. Harris (talk) 06:05, 19 December 2016 (UTC) Striking comment by TheLastMonk. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ashwing.--Lemongirl942 (talk) 09:09, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:12, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:17, 30 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:PROMO; this is strictly advertorial content and belongs on the company web site, not here. K.e.coffman (talk) 19:19, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. K.e.coffman (talk) 19:19, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Improve Club Mahindra is indeed a notable entity in India under WP:NCORP. I think we can improve this article beyond its current state. I say we keep it and improve it. FlyingBlueDream (talk) 07:48, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Although the article contained unnecessary promotional stuff and is possibly being monitored by "sympathizers", I don't think there is any ground for deletion. It definitely satisfies WP:CORP with multiple non-PR reliable, WP:independent sources in publications like Travel Daily News, Business Standard, NDTV, The Hindu, more, and more, and some more (print media). These are wide coverages about the company acquiring other companies, its revenues, its business models, takeovers, and other relevant stuff that is of interest to the public at large. The fact that none of these are in the article also cannot be an excuse to consider deletion. Although being listed does not make a company notable, but WP:LISTED can be very well cited here. I have improved the article and removed promotional stuff, so WP:PROMO is out I think. Finally, per WP:PRESERVE, I think the article should be retained. We are building an encyclopedia here, and try to fix the problem. 1.186.37.86 (talk) 19:18, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, what you've listed is not escaping the clear PR as (1) we've established these publications have blatantly published company advertising and (2) there's nothing to suggest a confident independent coverage without the company itself either paying or influencing it. WP:NOT is the highest policy we have for companies and it explicitly allows removal of anything questionable. SwisterTwister talk 01:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as I've been watching and I'll comment now about what's listed above: It's simply business announcements, mentions and other triviality, it's not lending actual substance for notability and it's clear this itself only exists for said PR. The links above even all have the same consistency of publishing the same PR and same formatting of them thus showing the company itself was the sole author, not the publisher itself. That alone is enough to suggest deletion since there's no actual substance to begin with. "Fix the problem", as the comment above, is by actually deleting advertising when we see it, and that itself "improves the encyclopedia" (also quoted above). With this said, the fact it's part of another company and then what's here is not substantial, says alone there's nothing convincing. SwisterTwister talk 01:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep: The company seems to pass WP:NCORP to me with coverage in sources via a quick search, but the article is a little thin. Needs improvement and content to stay relevant. If consensus is to delete, I'd suggest merge to the parent article Mahindra Group -- Whats new?^(talk) 23:54, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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