Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Close Up (band)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Nakon 03:01, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Close Up (band)

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Fails WP:GNG, no proof that their singles and EPs ever charted. The Banner talk 21:06, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Netherlands-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:06, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:06, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. A plethora of sources is not an automatic qualification for notability. Fails to meet WP:BAND. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:50, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- This band does in fact meet WP:BAND, they have been placed in rotation by Penguin Radio, and also the band has been featured in broadcasts on NPO3, XITE TV, 3FM and Radio 538. Antiabed (talk) 14:54, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Apart from this the band has also performed in multiple large venues in the Netherlands, performed on festivals in the Netherlands, Germany and Norway, Successfully held a crowdfunding campaign for a new EP, recorded with well known Dutch producers, and won a few well known national band contests. Antiabed (talk) 14:57, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - What means that they are not signed to a major label... And there is still no proof ant of their singles or EPs charted. The Banner talk 15:03, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    - Nowhere on WP:BAND it is stated the band has to be signed to a major label or has to have a single or EP that charted. 82.173.190.144 (talk) 17:22, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      - Then you better start reading again:
        2 Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart.
        
        5 Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable).
      - The Banner talk 00:37, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
        I might be wrong but doesn't the WP:BAND article state 'may be notable if it meets at least one of the following criteria:' meaning that not all criteria have to be met. The band does meet point 1, 4, 9, 11 and 12. Antiabed (talk) 14:12, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
        The sheer fact that you have to start a fund raising campaign to make an EP is already a sign that your band is not important enough. Beside that, you sounds like the bands marketing employee but you did not declare a possible Conflict of Interest. The Banner talk 15:32, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Uh, Banner, only one criteria needs to be met, and the crowdfunding is meaningless. Major bands and artists regularly crowdfund for albums, often because they don't want to deal with the paperwork/deadlines/creative control/licensing problems that comes with funding from a label. And in terms of coverage and reviews, crowdfunded albums are treated exactly the same by the music press as albums with private funding. Earflaps (talk) 18:38, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NORTH AMERICA¹⁰⁰⁰ 00:18, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Coment: It seems quite clear to me that Antiabed/82.173.190.144 from Utrecht or therabouts are only here to promote a new band on the block. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:58, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Let's keep the coi accusations out of it, shall we? It's a violation of assume good faith, doesn't solve the issue at hand, and doesn't improve the page. Earflaps (talk) 18:38, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

- I do honestly believe this band is worthy of a page on Wikipedia. It meets several of the required points on WP:BAND, and I am in the belief that if a band meets those points a page can be made for the band. I created this page not as a promo page but as an objective informational page. I'm not protecting anything related to the page, so everyone can edit it. I have not been paid to create this page. All I tried to do was create a page for a band that meets the requirements on WP:BAND Antiabed (talk) 11:35, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Davewild (talk) 17:20, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

~~Weak Keep.~~ The English references are crap as is, but I'm not about to claim they aren't notable in The Netherlands. They seem to have a documented national tour, and got some radio play, so deletion seems pre-emptive until someone who speaks Dutch can go through the available references and assert the publications are reliable. Earflaps (talk) 18:38, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- By now, the Dutch version of the article is removed as not-encyclopedic. The national concert tour was part of a serie of concerts not by Close Up, but by the "Herman Brood Academy" where the band was involved in, the foreign concerts were part of an international exchange with bands of several countries, the concert at Appelpop was won in a contest with ten bands what they won with about 300 casted votes. There is no evidence that Close Up was the main band at the "multiple large venues in the Netherlands". The Banner talk 21:02, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - In that case, I change my vote to Delete. Would you mind doing the cross-outy thing on my vote earlier? Never figured out how to do a strikethrough. Earflaps (talk) 22:57, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    - I suggest that you place a <s> in front of your vote and a </s> straight behind it. That will do the trick most times... The Banner talk 00:05, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      - Oh yay, it's so simple Earflaps (talk) 07:27, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:BAND and removend on Dutch Wikipedia Agora (talk) 14:10, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.