- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was No consensus. If it really is a hoax, this article should definitely be re-AfDed (or speedied). Deathphoenix ʕ 14:56, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This half-year old article was tagged as a possible {{hoax}} yesterday by Yuckfoo, and I too am unable to find anything which confirms any of its contents. If it cannot be reliably sourced by the close of this discussion I suggest that it be deleted without prejudice. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 10:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmmm. The guy seems to exist, but not to be notable according to verifiable sources. I'll vote Delete without prejudice for now. If someone comes up with evidence, do poke me to change my vote. Vizjim 11:18, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]- Delete as per nom. PJM 11:26, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment See [1] and [2] There seems to be truth here though article has been messed with in the past. (Don't know how Iranian names work - would Behzad be his last name from English-speaker's point of view?) --HJMG 11:33, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak Delete I can add a similar link for dugesia iranica and I even found his home page (unless there are two people with the same name born on the same year in the same city) ... but, from the long list of dugesia here, I don't think finding two more species is enough to merit an encyclopedia article; there seem to be quite a few of them, it's not like finding a coelacanth or something. Will change to keep if a more knowledgeable planarialogist says finding two new species is rare enough. AnonEMouse 13:43, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I'll ask a couple of planaria editors to weigh in if that deserves an article. AnonEMouse (squeak) 15:23, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. I'm not a knowledgeable planarialogist but I reckon discovering a species of animal merits an article, however icky the animal. Let's not go down the "if creating a species of Pokemon..." angle, though). Vizjim 13:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak Delete While I'm certainly no planarialogist, doing a quick search reveals this gentleman to be relatively obscure. While I'd be a bit more forgiving of an article on an obscure person if the article was well written and informative, this isn't, and so seems somewhat unecessary. Cerealkiller13 17:48, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Well I found this paper about Iranian Planarian and Dr Ghorbani. Apparently there is no doubt about the truth of the article, nevertheless the article in the encyclopedia is not informative. In order to show some references including the following scientific paper :
© 1998 The Japan Mendel Society Cytologia 63: 441—445, 1998 Cytomorphological Studies in Dugesia Species of Iran Ghorbani Behzad1, Sheidai Masoud2* and Khazab Mahmood3 Biological Department, Tehran University, Tehran, Iran 2 Biological Department, Shahid Beheshti University, Tehran, Iran Genetic Section, Razi Research Institute, Karaj, Iran Accepted September 2, 1998 Summary Dugesia species of Karaj river in Iran were investigated from cytologial, and morphoanatomical point of view. Two different populations were studied. Individuals from Gajereh region possessed 2n=25 and those of Gachsar possessed 2n—26. They varied in details of karyotypes, GBanding pattern and morpho-anatomical features. Cluster analysis separated the two populations of Duge.cia in different clusters. Two new species of Dugesia with new chromosome number having complete asexual reproduction are reported. The fresh water planarians belong to the phylum Platyhelminthes, an old monophyletic group which branched from the rest of metazoans at an early stage and can be considered as the sister group of the other bilateral triploblastic organisms (Riutort et a!. 1992, Addoutte and Philippe 1993). They possess a great morphological plasticity and regeneration power and are remarkable for the occurrence of local polyploid populations and the occasional presence of mixoploidy and mosaics having both diploid and triploid tissues (Hoshino eta!. 1991, Benazzi and Lentati 1976, Oki et al. 1981). Although there have been extensive cytological studies on planarian species in many countries (Hoshino ci a!. 1991, Benazzi and Lentati 1976, Oki ci a!. 1981, Tamura ci a!. 1988, Ribas et a!. 1988), there has been no report from Iran. The present article is the first report on cytotaxonomy of Dugesia species from Iran.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ali123456 (talk • contribs) 22:43, 18 May 2006, moved down and formatted by AnonEMouse (squeak) 16:03, 22 May 2006 (UTC))[reply]
- Keep - I've been swayed from neutral because this discovery is not ephemeral - BG will always be the person who first brought these dugesia into the scientific record. --HJMG 11:42, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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