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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 23:25, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
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Delete A run-of-the-mill VC company with no indications of notability in their own right. While they may have invested in several well-known firms, notability is not inherited and this article is little more than a platform to promote their services, failing WP:SPIP. None of the references are intellectually independent and fail WP:CORPDEPTH and/or WP:ORGIND
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 09:13, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Finance-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 09:13, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete looks like non-notable corporate spam. Sourcing is WP:SPIP and fails the new and improved WP:NCORP. TonyBallioni (talk) 23:46, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Being government-backed, it certainly isn't what I'd consider run of the mill. Scholarly articles [1] [2] discuss the fund at length; easy to miss since they fully spell out "Angel Co-Investment Fund," but given the descriptions inline it is the same fund. Pegnawl (talk) 14:59, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Yunshui 雲水 09:27, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
@TonyBallioni: & @Misterpottery: in light of the scholarly articles I tracked down above, will you keep your votes as delete or change? Happy to update the entry to include these refs, but would rather not put in the effort if a deletion is pending. Thank you. Pegnawl (talk) 18:21, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- I see no reason to keep corporate spam based on an scholarly source that has a total of 7 citations. In other words, the academic community doesn’t think that highly of your source. My vote remains to delete with fire. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:28, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- I only provided the first two scholarly articles I found, with 7 and 17 citations respectively. I'm very interested in your metrics for deducing that the academic community doesn't care about these papers; there were others, but you're right, # of citations is lacking, as compared to... Well, that's the thing. What is the baseline for this field? A super generic search on the same topic doesn't show a plethora of citations for any of the results. My go-to is to judge # of citations by release date, authors (in this case appears to be a power couple from Middlesex), journal reputability, and the reputability of author(s)/journal(s) the citations are coming from.
- Appreciate your thoughts if you care to expand. Pegnawl (talk) 21:08, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- Seven citations for a paper is very low. Here is a semi-randomly selected paper from notable academics in business. Google lists 183 citations. 7 and 17 citations is pretty low in most disciplines. Also, to be frank, while this is clear that it doesn't meet NCORP, I don't really care if it does: it is still a WP:NOTSPAM fail which makes passing WP:N impossible, regardless of the sourcing. This article also just happens to have crap sourcing. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:56, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for humoring me! While I will note that the paper you provided as example has over 30 years on the others, I do understand your perspective, and am appreciative of the effort. Pegnawl (talk) 01:45, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Seven citations for a paper is very low. Here is a semi-randomly selected paper from notable academics in business. Google lists 183 citations. 7 and 17 citations is pretty low in most disciplines. Also, to be frank, while this is clear that it doesn't meet NCORP, I don't really care if it does: it is still a WP:NOTSPAM fail which makes passing WP:N impossible, regardless of the sourcing. This article also just happens to have crap sourcing. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:56, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- Appreciate your thoughts if you care to expand. Pegnawl (talk) 21:08, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- Delete: does not meet WP:NCORP; the sources offered at this AfD are not convincing. Being government-back is not a guarantee of notability, and there's nothing better. K.e.coffman (talk) 21:47, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- Comment: @K.e.coffman: Pardon my slowness, but I'm still trying to wrap my head around the rejection of the scholarly refs. Per WP:NCORP, listed under "Examples of substantial coverage that would generally be sufficient to meet the requirement" is "A scholarly article, a book passage, or ongoing media coverage focusing on a product or organization." Can I ask, in what way are the scholarly articles cited above not convincing? Same/similar thought process to TonyBallioni? Thank you. Pegnawl (talk) 16:31, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Agree with above, fails GNG and WP:NCORP. HighKing 20:05, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
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