Wwilson 1

Hi welcome to Wikipedia - I left a note in the Aikido talk page concerning your recent changes. Quite a bit of that article needs work and I think that Ki section was one of the major ones. Thanks for that and please try your hand at some of the other sections. Personally I've been riding shotgun on the Styles section. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions or comments (best way to do that is through my Talk page).Peter Rehse 07:24, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

I think it is important to look directly at the kanji rather than the romanji. I did double check with my Japanese office mates (hey I've been wrong about some really silly things before) but basically we have 会 meeting; meet; party; association; interview; join and 合 fit; suit; join. The latter is the kanji used for Aikido. I also don't like the romantic Way of Harmony but think that (based on the kanji) Aiki refers to Harmonising Energy.Peter Rehse 07:34, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

well, meet/join, but joining is different from harmonizing isn't it? if it were to be the way of energy harmony, it would be wakido

That is a good point and I am trying to think how best to modify your change to take that into account. If you enter harmony here http://linear.mv.com/cgi-bin/j-e/euc/tty/dict you get (in addition to a number of other kanji).

陰陽和合 the harmony of yin and yang energies 四部合唱 four part harmony 釣り合う to balance; to be in harmony; to suit Let me think about it a bit and talk to a few people. It really is a good point to raise about much of the interpretation of Aikido being poetic.Peter Rehse 07:58, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

By the way could I suggest, when you have a bit of free time, that you create a user page. Nice to know who you are talking to, especially if they are in country and doing Aikido.Peter Rehse 08:05, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm starting to soften my position... I guess I wanted to have something new and interesting to add to the topic of aikido... I can see now, why harmonizing was chosen as a definition. When introducing Aikido to someone, it really might be the best way to explain it in a simple and effective way...please talk to some folks and I will too. I just get tired of seeing these really ambiguous words being used to define aikido. the wiki had like 20 uses of "spiritual" and many uses of "harmonizing". These words sound nice and pretty, but don't really give you any real description of what's going on. almost like a cop-out. "oh, it's SPIRITUAL, it's HARMONIOUS", I mean, while I might use the word "harmonious" to describe a ki society or aikikai waza, I wouldn't really use it to describe a yonshinkan or shodokan waza, for that, join or meet would seem more appropriate. maybe that means these are "bad" forms of aikido?? but I think O Sensei might have changes his own idea of what it meant. Now that I think about this more, I think this is very important. I mean, we're talking about the basic english translation of Aikido here!

Exactly. I'm writing an e-mail to Peter Goldsbury about this. Aikikai 6th Dan, been in Japan 25 years, Shihan at Hiroshima Daigaku and President of the International Aikido Federation (Aikikai). I'm not Aikikai but this guy knows his stuff - will actually visit my dojo in April along with a Yoshinkan instructor from Tokyo. I really do think de-mystification is a very good thing.

Hi me again. Nice addition on the Ki section. I fixed up a little bit on the consistency. One small point, I know several Aikikai teachers in Japan, not to mention myself and my own teachers, that don't use terms like centred and the like. In my feeling you have two clear types of teachers, those that are more "solid" and others that I would call more "dynamic". This division might reflect this difference in approach. Its why I am insisting on using less general terms like "these teachers". Hope that makes sense.Peter Rehse 01:11, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I also created a category for Wikipedian aikidoka that you might want to add to your user page, please see my user page Peter Rehse 01:19, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Over in aikiweb Peter Goldsbury (Aikikai shihan) wrote a recent article on (and I'm also layering on things he has talked to me privately about) that in the west people tend to place far more importance on things that are rarely mentioned in Japan. Kokyu and ki being good examples. The idea tends to be that an understanding is reached through training - I tend to agree. The real conflict between Tohei and Ueshiba K. was the former trying to bring another organization's (Japanese Yoga)teaching into the dojo. Ueshiba K. didn't agree and frankly I can understand why. Within Shodokan Aikido our frame of reference tends to be the centre line and the power of movement. That center line is not through the body but how you move forward - but of course we understand hara and know where the tanden is. Vancouver is a nice place - you'll love it.Peter Rehse 03:45, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

My father was army - I moved around a lot. Name I was there but the last few times it was Quebec. Tell you a story. In my first dojo in Canada I was teaching my pathetically few number of students when fresh meat showed up. This could only be good I told myself but unfortuneately the person wasn't interested in practicing but had read all about Aikido and wanted to tell me and my students that what I was doing wasn't Aikido. He was even clutching the Little Red Book written by John Steven's (shades of Mao). OK - one crazy (you should have seen the spittle fly) but I've run into similar several times. Intense reading followed by disappointment when Aikido practice doesn't deliver the preconceptions. It is for that reason I recommend minimal reading initially - it is quite easy to layer Aikido on our own Judeo-Christian core (or Bhuddist) and that is not always correct and also your frame of reference should by your teacher or his teacher and so forth, vertical rather than horizontal. Of course latter on critical but broad reading, searching for the commonality of ideas, gives further insight and should be encouraged.

Speaking of John Steven's I had an Aikikai Nidan from his dojo practicing for about a year until he went back to Canada - he was the only one who regularily used O-sensei when talking about Ueshiba M.Peter Rehse 06:22, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh yeah - thanks for adding to the Aikido Organizations - I removed the Lists and unofficial page since I think they are better placed on the Ki society page itself and put the remainder in alphabetical order.Peter Rehse 06:22, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I hear you. Actually, I'm glad I did my first Aikido at Yoshinkan and got the strict hanmi and 45degree stuff, then did Aikikai in Tokyo (almost no talking at all, like maybe 4 sentences a class) for a year. But it really did help to read and talk about it after that, it kind of helped bring it all together. But you have to admit, Aikido is a tough sport to introduce to someone. It's not like Judo or Karate. There are no major worldwide competitions per say, so it's not in the public eye as much, so books and internet are the main ways it's reaching people. I've seen it as pure martial arts, and as pure new age foof. I'd like to think that there's a style for everybody though. I just think people should shop around though, and not get too rigid in what they define is and isn't aikido. I've had a few classes where first time students have tried to teach teachers, that's where it's better to not talk and just demonstrate a kotegaeshi on them. If it works, it works, and talk isn't needed. Talking can just lead to arguments in situations like that. And as for John Stevens. He seems like a nice guy, he's done a lot of good things for Aikido. Seems to live in his own world a little bit. But don't we all? Wwilson 1 07:20, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Good points all. Personally my Aikido owes a lot to Aikiweb not least because my Japanese was too poor to get much from my dojo mates. I also agree you should shop around but at one point you need to empty your cup and choose your teacher - doing so can be very tough. My teacher is fond of saying there is no style of Aikido beyond the individual (he is the head of the Shodokan style). First time I heard that he used me as an example much to the merriment of those present - but he was right (Shodokan sees itself as a way of teaching). I take John Steven's work for what it is and am not really that critical of the man or his writtings. Not my taste but so what - he has put in the time under an Aikido legend and carved a niche for himself. Don't get me started on Aikido and the Dynamic Sphere - that is a whole new kettle of fish. Peter Rehse

Hi - what do you mean by unique with respect to taigi. Just curious as it seems to me to be another name for enbu competition - held by Shodokan, Yoseikan, Yoshinkan and deep dark secret Aikikai. In these cases the pair has a whole is judged. ANd note to self its Wayne not Wilson - apologies.Peter Rehse 16:14, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Wayne. I think the use of meeting is incorrect - see above, we've had this discussion before. I think its best if you use the same definition as when you click on the kanji. The randori change is also slightly problematic. Randori is multiple person jiyuwaza rather than an alternative name for jiyuwaza. The latter being freestyle practice. I think the distinction is important for clarity. Cheers Peter Rehse 07:19, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

That's cool Peter, I just thought what the def. had been changed to was really lame. BTW, I changed the definition of 合い to include meet. :) bet you didn't think i'd take that route, or maybe you know me well enough....you can change it to just join or whatever if you really just can't stand it...Wwilson 1 07:47, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi Wayne - could you do us a favor and take a look at the Ueshiba article. I removed the unsourced tag but we do need to add in a few citations specifically with the quotes you put in but also elesewhere. CheersPeter Rehse 00:21, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Aikido has been submitted to FAC. Lets take it that final mile.Peter Rehse 02:31, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Kashima Shinden Jikishinkage-ryū

Hi Wayne, this article was (sort of) put up for peer review by its author. I've decided to put a little time into copyediting it, but I think my translation in the intro of the name of the ryu kind of sucks. Could you take a look, and improve it if possible? Thanks, Bradford44 17:36, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Aikido Photos

Jun - the owner of aikiweb has privately said that if there are any pictures in the aikiweb gallery that the Aikido article could use I should let him know. I think we are looking for action shots that clearly show technique and look good at the same time. Could you take a look and let ME know of any that strike your fancy and then I will give him a list early next week.Peter Rehse 00:58, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Japanese/Aikido

just wondering, do you actually do aikido and/or speak japanese?Wwilson 1 00:14, 4 April 2007 (UTC) (from my page)

Nah. I just put that ja-1 entry on my language box to screw with people. As for aikido, I just copy and paste random blocks of text from aikiweb. Nobody's noticed so far. --GenkiNeko 03:33, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

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I saw that your user page links to Universal Life Church. I just wanted to drop you a quick note to let you know that I created a new userbox that you can add to your user page should you wish. {{User:Green Joe/ULC}} is the template to add. GreenJoe 19:38, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Aikido

Hi I just resubmitted the Aikido article for Featured article status. Hopefully we can get over the hump this time.Peter Rehse 09:24, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

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Thank you for the help with Takemusu which I think is very important. No one has mentioned before or created the article so I made just a start for awaking the subject, good that you can get it further.

About your other comments, yes, you are right, I normally am very calm and sharing but I have a few trigger points as anyone,I am now part of the campaign "be nice and explanatory to newcomers".

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Hello, I apologize for the delay in replying to your post of August 17th. I am only here now and then. I will go where you invited me and try to lend a hand. TainanHao 15:47, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

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