The Hauptfriedhof,
the main cemetery of Mainz,
was established in 1803
and became the model for the
Cimetière du Père-Lachaise in Paris.

walk (in English)

21 December 2024

(from User:Gerda Arendt/Stories)

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September music

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Today's story has 3 composers, I couldn't decide for the one on the Main page or the one who didn't make it on his bicentenary, so took both, and the pic has a third. Listen if you have a bit of time. The music, played by the Kyiv Symphony Orchestra in Germany in April 2022, impressed me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:40, 4 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for good observation! - Recommended reading today: Frye Fire, by sadly missed Vami_IV. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:48, 6 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Happy because my story today is about a Czech mezzo soprano who is mentioned on the Main page on her birthday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:56, 9 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Today is Schoenberg's 150th birthday! On display, portrayed by Egon Schiele, with music from Moses und Aron, and with two DYK hooks, one from 2010 and another from 2014; the latter, about his 40th birthday, appeared on his 140th birthday, which made me happy then and now again. - See places for a stunning sunrise, on the day Bruckner's 200th birthday was celebrated (just a few days late). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:45, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

My story today features a pic I took from my position in the choir, I can also offer varied delightful music, some from Venice, also with pics I took, - note the rose in the clarinet ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:46, 25 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

DYK for Nathaniel Coe

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On 10 September 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Nathaniel Coe, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Nathaniel Coe declined nomination to the United States Senate, instead choosing to serve as an inspector for the United States Postal Service? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nathaniel Coe. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Nathaniel Coe), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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A barnstar for you!

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October music

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You may remember Maryvonne Le Dizès, my story today as on 28 August. Some September music was unusual: last compositions and eternal light, with Ligeti mentioned in story and music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 3 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

today Rohan de Saram - unbelievable story --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:43, 7 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Today is the birthday of Tabea Zimmermann, and you can listen to the exact concert I mentioned last year ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:37, 8 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Today I remember an organist who was pictured on the Main page on his birthday ten years ago, and I found two recent organ concerts to match, - see top of my talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:31, 11 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Today brought a timely promotion of Helmut Bauer to the Main page on the day when pieces from Mozart's Requiem were performed for him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:41, 12 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I made Leif Segerstam my big story today as you know ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:05, 16 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

My story today is a cantata 300 years old, based on a hymn 200 years old when the cantata was composed, based on a psalm some thousand years old, - so said the 2015 DYK hook. I had forgotten the discussion on the talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:41, 20 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Happy whatever you celebrate today, - more who died, more to come, and they made the world richer. Greetings from Madrid where I took the pic of assorted Cucurbita in 2016. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:07, 31 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Your GA nomination of S. F. Light

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Your GA nomination of The Lady in White (Bracquemond)

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DYK for Rooms by the Sea

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On 15 October 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Rooms by the Sea, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that an art critic felt that Rooms by the Sea was one of Edward Hopper's "strangest" works? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Rooms by the Sea. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Rooms by the Sea), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:12, 15 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Congrats! I wrote the hook(s), but you did the most important parts of the heavy lifting. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:01, 15 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

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A barnstar for you!

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For your work over at Techno-Optimist Manifesto. Biohistorian15 (talk) 08:07, 24 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. It still needs a lot of work, including expansion and incorporation of the patron saints and more about the so-called "enemies" (an important part that is still missing except for a brief mention); the reception section also needs serious work. I was making some progress, but I had to take a break for various reasons. Viriditas (talk) 08:54, 24 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Your GA nomination of S. F. Light

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October 2024

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  Please do not add defamatory content to Wikipedia, as you did to Freedom Caucus, especially if it involves living persons. Your edits have been reverted. Thank you. Bettering the Wiki (talk) 00:17, 27 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Your GA nomination of Intermission (Hopper)

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Your GA nomination of Intermission (Hopper)

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Big congrats on this! I regret that this happened at a time when I've just been too preoccupied with other things to have helped you with it, but you clearly did fine on your own. A fine article! (And while I'm at it, thanks again for the very kind words at my talk.) --Tryptofish (talk) 20:37, 29 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

DYK nomination needs adoption

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If you have time, Template:Did you know nominations/Cannonball (MILW train) needs adoption. Best wishes! Flibirigit (talk) 23:03, 29 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I'm always up for an adoption. I have a GAR on the burner that I've been asked to look at first. I'm also trying to complete a DYK nom right now. I can look at Cannonball later tonight (maybe 9 hours from now). Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 23:09, 29 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

A barnstar for you!

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Thank you for the excellent work on all the DYKs, including mine! FortunateSons (talk) 10:48, 1 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

November music

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story · music · places

memories -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:37, 4 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

For a surprise, a Bach cantata is on the Main page today, where it was last year for the 300th anniversary, and they were too lazy to find something new ;) - Look at my story, and listen to the 3 whole-tone steps and the dialogues of Fear and Hope. - An open letter open to be signed (more info on the talk), - I haven't checked if you did, please ignore then. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:01, 7 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

I uploaded more pics, on a mountain in the sun above the fog. - Madeleine Riffaud - remember. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:07, 11 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

I will travel today and have no idea if will be able to update my story tomorrow, probably not, lengthy travel, then 2 weeks with doubtful internet, celebrating. Could you do that perhaps if you see it's late? Last year's is good but I'll change it in case another Recent death gets posted, - 3 are open. Many DYK are open, - your pic expertise might help for Perplexities after Escher, and I'd appreciate a watchful eye elsewhere. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 13 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

I'm happy to help if I can figure out what to do. Viriditas (talk) 09:13, 13 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
you did it! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for more help in the field! I'll prepare 22 Nov in stories, for an early start tomorrow. If I don't get to it please feel free. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:37, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Last year's story would be good again for 26 Nov, and I'll be on a plane again. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:46, 25 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Gerda Arendt: Will do. I forgot to tell you how much I enjoy your Apple tree in field photo. Viriditas (talk) 19:31, 25 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, for the story work and the appreciation! - I uploaded pics of a trip that was a 10-day celebration of a 16 November event, but the day was also when a dear friend died. We sang Hevenu shalom aleichem at his funeral yesterday, and it was good. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:03, 30 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
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Childe Hassam: Impressionist in the West

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Hey! In response to your request, I finally got a copy of Bullock 2004. The painting is in there, on page 88, with the caption, 51 ; The Silver Veil and the Golden Gate, 1914 ; Oil on canvas ; Brauer Museum of Art, Valparaiso University, Indiana (; = new line). Other than that, from a quick skim through, it doesn't seem to be mentioned with any more detail. Bsoyka (tcg) 04:30, 13 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you. Viriditas (talk) 05:19, 13 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

DYK for Cannonball (Milwaukee Road train)

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On 14 November 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cannonball (Milwaukee Road train), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that despite being an ordinary commuter train, the Cannonball (pictured) was known for its Friday-night parties? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cannonball (MILW train). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Cannonball (Milwaukee Road train)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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  Hook update
Your hook reached 28,204 views (1,175.2 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of November 2024 – nice work!

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Your GA nomination of Sun in an Empty Room

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Your admiration for Hopper reminds me of my visit to an amazing 2019 exhibit at the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts. The museum recreated Western Motel and people could actually spend in the night in there. The lighting was a perfect match. I have photos and a video clip, but not sure it's allowed on Commons. The rest of the exhibit was also a treat. APK hi :-) (talk) 10:27, 18 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
What gets me about Western Motel is the color of the room. That pea green color was everywhere in the US up until maybe the late 1970s, at which point people finally had enough and said no more. How did that happen? Why was the color acceptable one minute, and the next, socially verboten? For many years now, I've been fascinated with the idea of sea changes or paradigm shifts in art. Just yesterday, I was obsessing on Pierre-Henri de Valenciennes, trying to figure out how his interest in open-air painting laid a small part of the foundation for the Impressionists, who would emerge 50 years after his death. Viriditas (talk) 20:25, 18 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

DYK for The Gust of Wind (Renoir)

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On 19 November 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Gust of Wind (Renoir), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that The Gust of Wind is Renoir's attempt to paint air? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Gust of Wind (Renoir). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Gust of Wind (Renoir)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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  Hook update
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General George Takei

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Reporting for duty, sir! Viriditas (talk) 00:56, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

[clarification needed] --Tryptofish (talk) 16:24, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Bluesky. Viriditas (talk) 18:20, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Got it. Certainly better than being an ex-twit. --Tryptofish (talk) 18:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
See this. Viriditas (talk) 18:28, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
As I mentioned on my talk, I really did buy a tire thumper. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:02, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
"Do not obey in advance". Viriditas (talk) 20:05, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Your GA nomination of Sun in an Empty Room

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  --Tryptofish (talk) 14:22, 22 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

DYK for Rust Red Hills

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On 25 November 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Rust Red Hills, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Rust Red Hills is being sold to renovate student housing, a court-approved move that museum associations say violates the ethics of deaccessioning? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Rust Red Hills. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Rust Red Hills), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for The Silver Veil and the Golden Gate

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On 2 December 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Silver Veil and the Golden Gate, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that an Indiana university argued in court that The Silver Veil and the Golden Gate, a 1914 painting, was too modern for their art collection in 2024? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Silver Veil and the Golden Gate. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Silver Veil and the Golden Gate), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Thank you for the article! November was rich in sadness and happiness for me, expressed in music. Regarding my arb candidate question, I found one so far who looked deeply into the matter, Simonm223. There are two composers on the Main page today, Siegfried Thiele and Aaron Copland. I find the response of my friend Jerome Kohl to a question on Copland's article talk promising. (more on my talk, for less repetition) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:35, 2 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Music therapy is now gaining more ground as a legitimate practice in the US.[1] This is something that has interested me since 1988. "Three New Books Make the Case for Music as Medicine" (2024). Viriditas (talk) 22:20, 2 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
  • Claire Oppert (2024). The Schubert Treatment: A Story of Music and Healing. "In The Schubert Treatment, Oppert recounts her remarkable story of healing suffering through music, alongside portraits of the many people she has helped. Born into a family of doctors and artists, Oppert trained as a classical cellist and began playing at a center for autistic youth, where she witnessed how music could connect with even the most difficult-to-reach patients. Later, she began working as an art therapist with people with neurodegenerative diseases and palliative care patients, eventually conducting clinical trials that proved the effect of her "Schubert treatment": using music as a counter-stimulation to reduce pain and anxiety during stressful procedures." ISBN 9781778400803. OCLC 1417394503.
Viriditas (talk) 22:26, 2 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, interesting! - Today's story comes from a DYK about a concert that fascinated me, and you can listen! For my taste, the hook has too little music - I miss the unusual scoring and the specific dedication - but it comes instead with a name good for viewcount. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:10, 6 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
On the Main page today Jean Sibelius on his birthday. Listening to Beethoven's Fifth from the opening of Notre-Dame de Paris. We sang in choirs today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:15, 8 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Listen today to the (new) Perplexities after Escher. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:31, 12 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! Viriditas (talk) 11:36, 12 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Listen today to Beethoven's 3rd cello sonata, on his birthday - it was a hook in the 2020 DYK set when his 250th birthday was remembered. I picked a recording with Antônio Meneses, because he was on my sad list this year, and I was in Brazil (see places), and I love his playing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:16, 16 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
I come to fix the cellist's name, with a 10-years-old DYK and new pics - look for red birds --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:41, 18 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Today is a woman poet's centenary. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:09, 20 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Diane Leather

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Template:Did you know nominations/Diane Leather appears to be abandoned by its nominator who has not edited since October 22. If you're interested in adoption, please comment at the nomination page. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 14:26, 5 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

I'm always interested in adoption, User:Flibirigit, but it looks like User:Launchballer is trying to close it out quick, and I'm not a huge fan of working against the clock when I have so many other things going on. If Launchballer can hold off on closing, I would be happy to take a look and see what I can do. Viriditas (talk) 21:11, 5 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Flibirigit: it's unfortunate, but I don't have access to any of the sources needed to resolve the maintenance tag issue. I also don't have access to the Wikipedia Library, which could help resolve this. Due to this set of unique circumstances, I'm not sure how much help I can offer here. It might be the case that these sources are available on the Internet Archive, but I don't see any links to it at this time. Viriditas (talk) 21:22, 5 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Note, it looks like a set of similar editorial problems have led to issues in the GA process for their other articles, so this isn't confined to just Diane Leather. This is a far larger problem and doesn't just reflect this one article. In a perfect world, I think if I had access to these sources, I could make some attempt to fix the problem, but I don't. Viriditas (talk) 21:28, 5 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
No worries. We cannot save all DYK nominations. Thanks for thinking about it. Flibirigit (talk) 21:47, 5 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'm happy to hold on.--Launchballer 23:06, 5 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
No need. I can’t do anything to improve it. See above. Viriditas (talk) 23:09, 5 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Your GA nomination of Portrait of Toulouse Lautrec, in Villeneuve-sur-Yonne, with the Natansons

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The article Portrait of Toulouse Lautrec, in Villeneuve-sur-Yonne, with the Natansons you nominated as a good article has passed  ; see Talk:Portrait of Toulouse Lautrec, in Villeneuve-sur-Yonne, with the Natansons for comments about the article, and Talk:Portrait of Toulouse Lautrec, in Villeneuve-sur-Yonne, with the Natansons/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Matthew Yeager -- Matthew Yeager (talk) 03:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)Reply