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Unexplained removal at Ahirs

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Greetings, you removed from the article Ahirs the well-cited comment about some seeing them as Shudra. You gave no explanation for this, so it has been reverted. If you have a concern about the article, take it up on Talk:Ahirs. Thanks! MatthewVanitas (talk) 13:35, 9 June 2011 (UTC)Reply


List of shudra communities ( scheduled castes and scheduled tribes) provided by the GOVERNMENT OF INDIA (MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS) census department clearly shows that yadavs(Ahirs) caste is not subjected to shudra communities. Reference given below http://censusindia.gov.in/Tables_Published/SCST/scst_main.html Vikraantkaka (talk) 06:16, 18 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

shudra is the fourth Varna in the traditional four-section division in the caste system. Their assigned and expected role in post-Vedic India was that of servants and laborers. The four Varnas are Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya and Shudra. Yadav (Ahir) came under kshatriya varna. And more precisely a single caste can't be categorized into two varna according to post vedic divisions. Ref: 1.Shudras in Ancient India, R. Chandra and K.L. Chanchreek. New Delhi, Shree Pub., 2004, ISBN 81-88658-65-0.

2.Oxford English Dictionary, s. v. "Sudra" sic

3.Sastri, K. Rama (1982). "Akkalapundi grant of Singaya-Nayaka: Saka-Samvat 1290" Epigraphica Indica, vol. XIII. India: Archaeological Survey of India. pp. 259ff., v.5–7.

4.The Jati-Varna Matrix Vikraantkaka (talk) 06:16, 18 June 2011 (UTC)Reply


Inscriptions of Shudra dynasties declare that belonging to the fourth varna was a matter of pride. An inscription of Singaya-Nayaka (1368 CE) says: The three castes, Brahmanas and the next [Kshatriyas and Vaishyas], were produced from the face, the arms and the thighs of the Lord; and for their support was born the fourth caste from His feet. River Ganges, the purifier of the three worlds also sprang from Lord's feet. The members of this caste are eagerly attentive to their duties, not wicked, pure-minded, and are devoid of passion and other such blemishes; they ably bear all the burdens of the earth by helping those born in the other caste.

References:Sastri, K. Rama (1982). "Akkalapundi grant of Singaya-Nayaka: Saka-Samvat 1290" Epigraphica Indica, vol. XIII. India: Archaeological Survey of India. pp. 259ff., v.5–7.Vikraantkaka (talk) 12:49, 18 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

June 2011

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  Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Yadav. When removing content, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the content has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Sitush (talk) 16:49, 17 June 2011 (UTC)Reply


List of shudra communities ( scheduled castes and scheduled tribes) provided by the GOVERNMENT OF INDIA (MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS) census department clearly shows that yadavs(Ahirs) caste is not subjected to shudra communities. Reference given below http://censusindia.gov.in/Tables_Published/SCST/scst_main.html

shudra is the fourth Varna in the traditional four-section division in the caste system. Their assigned and expected role in post-Vedic India was that of servants and laborers. The four Varnas are Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya and Shudra. Yadav (Ahir) came under kshatriya varna. And more precisely a single caste can't be categorized into two varna according to post vedic divisions. Ref: 1.Shudras in Ancient India, R. Chandra and K.L. Chanchreek. New Delhi, Shree Pub., 2004, ISBN 81-88658-65-0.

2.Oxford English Dictionary, s. v. "Sudra" sic

3.Sastri, K. Rama (1982). "Akkalapundi grant of Singaya-Nayaka: Saka-Samvat 1290" Epigraphica Indica, vol. XIII. India: Archaeological Survey of India. pp. 259ff., v.5–7.

4.The Jati-Varna Matrix Vikraantkaka (talk) 12:26, 18 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

The discussion needs to be on the Talk page of the article, not here, as people following and editing the article won't necessarily be watching your Talk page. If you give us an agreement that you will discuss it there first, and not remove that content from the article again until you have achieved a consensus to support your desired change, then I will unblock you so you can do that. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 12:38, 18 June 2011 (UTC)Reply


Inscriptions of Shudra dynasties declare that belonging to the fourth varna was a matter of pride. An inscription of Singaya-Nayaka (1368 CE) says: The three castes, Brahmanas and the next [Kshatriyas and Vaishyas], were produced from the face, the arms and the thighs of the Lord; and for their support was born the fourth caste from His feet. River Ganges, the purifier of the three worlds also sprang from Lord's feet. The members of this caste are eagerly attentive to their duties, not wicked, pure-minded, and are devoid of passion and other such blemishes; they ably bear all the burdens of the earth by helping those born in the other caste.

References:Sastri, K. Rama (1982). "Akkalapundi grant of Singaya-Nayaka: Saka-Samvat 1290" Epigraphica Indica, vol. XIII. India: Archaeological Survey of India. pp. 259ff., v.5–7.Vikraantkaka (talk) 12:58, 18 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

There really is no point your telling us all this stuff here, where nobody will be reading it - it needs to go on the Talk Pages of the relevant articles, for example at Talk:Yadav. As I say, if you will give us a commitment to go and discuss it there and achieve a consensus *before* removing the currently sourced material, then I will be happy to unblock you so you can do so. But if you keep making your argument here, nobody will see it, and it will not contribute to any consensus-building discussion. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:28, 18 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

Your recent edits

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  Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You could also click on the signature button   located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 06:07, 18 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

 
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for repeated removal of cited material without discussion. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:05, 18 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

ANI notice

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Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. - Sitush (talk) 07:49, 29 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

Sockpuppetry case

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Your name has been mentioned in connection with a sockpuppetry case. Please refer to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Vikraantkaka for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to cases before editing the evidence page. Sitush (talk) 11:03, 29 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

sock puppetry for what reason, my Ip address is same and i always used my account for edits and once by mistake i forgot to login and done editing on yadav page so instead of my username my Ip address appears. so how it is a case of sock puppetry when i neither use another username and nor used other IP addresses for making edits. I think someone has done a mistake so please look into the matter.Vikraantkaka (talk) 02:35, 11 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

When will the result of your sockpuppetry investigations will come, please make it fast. And if i am found to be innocent then the user's who referred my name for this false case must be penalised.Vikraantkaka (talk) 07:13, 27 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

You have been blocked indefinitely for sockpuppeting - see User:Vikraantkaka. - Sitush (talk) 07:18, 27 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

blocked for what reasons. Do you have any substantial proofs which claims that i am sockpuppet of sumit kachroo, i have never heard this name before. And what i m asking that it is mentioned that investigations are going on in this case, so when will the conclusions of your investigations will came???????? because i am 100 percent sure that i am innocent.Vikraantkaka (talk) 07:27, 27 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

Hi. There do not appear to be any ongoing investigations, and the sockpuppet report is closed - and you were not blocked for editing logged out, as far as I can see. If you wish to protest the block and be unblocked, you should follow the instructions in the block notice above, by appending the text "{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}" at the bottom of this page. That will alert admins to come and review your request -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 08:38, 27 July 2011 (UTC)Reply