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Russian consituencies

Hi, thanks very much for your work on the Russian legislative constituencies! I'm curious, where do you get the information from for the results tables, specifically the representative's parties, and the percentage totals? These don't seem to be listed on the website. Do you just work the latter out yourself? There's a few I'd like to update, such as Anna constituency. Spokoyni (talk) 10:23, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi! It's so exited to see someone interested in such a specific theme. For by-elections to the State Duma since 2003 and federal elections since 2016 I use information from Central Electoral Commission website and calculate percentages myself. As for previous elections (1993-2003) I have a personal database of CEC official protocols sourced from printed materials and web archives. However, you can always request editing any page and I will provide electoral data Soupsnake (talk) 20:46, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks very much for this! I've figured out how to get the material from the CEC - it isn't the easiest website to navigate - and I've updated the older constituency articles with the results and tables from the 2021 elections, so all should be up to date. Feel free to check and see if I've missed anything of course, or made any errors. Most of these still lack pre-2016 results, but there's no rush on that of course. When the Duma sits we'll be able to be sure on the final membership and I'll do what I can to update the deputy pages. The constituency articles and sources used are a big help in that! Keep up the good work! Spokoyni (talk) 10:46, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

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Thanks! Have a great day too! Soupsnake (talk) 14:59, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

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Soupsnake and @SunDawn: Did you notice that that article, like other articles you (Soupsnake) created, doesn't contain a single reference to a reliable source ? It is also highly POV in its description of the Russian system of elections. There are hundreds of RS on the shortcomings of that election system, and you didn't use any of them. Rsk6400 (talk) 07:48, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello Rsk6400. I can't comment on the shortcomings of this particular election, but other editors can add them if they wanted. I didn't see any POV problem in the description of Russian system of election on this article. I personally believe Russia's election have many problems, but it's not my place to comment on that as Wikipedia is not for WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. As for the WP:RS issue, I think tagging the article would suffice. What do you think? Thank you. ✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 14:41, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

A well-sourced sentence from the lead of Elections in Russia says, Elections in Russia have not been free and fair under Putin's rule. Political opponents are jailed and repressed, independent media are intimidated and suppressed, and electoral fraud is rampant. Creating dozens of articles on Russian elections without even mentioning that is a blatant violation of our NPOV. All the pages in Category:2023 elections in Russia that I checked seem to fail WP:GNG as well as WP:NPOV. I don't see any reason to thank Soupsnake for "expanding the sum of human knowledge in Wikipedia". Is there any way we can get rid of those articles without starting 41 individual AfDs ? Rsk6400 (talk) 07:07, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

No, this is not a blatant violation of our NPOV. As already mentioned, you can cite sources that mention that specific election and any potential shortcomings, but you are not doing this. No need to hound the guy either. Mellk (talk) 23:46, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Mellk, why do you think that I'm "hounding" Soupsnake ? I was originally replying to SunDawn's comment. Are you serious in suggesting that I add text to dozens of individual pages ? I think creating the impression that Russians really had a choice in their elections (and are therefore responsible for the actions of their government), is an extreme anti-Russian bias. Every editor (including Soupsnake, you, and myself, of course) should strife for neutrality in their editing. Soupsnake, the last sentence is also an answer to your comment of 15:53, 17 October. @SunDawn: I didn't ping you then, so maybe you didn't see my question of 07:07, 19 October 2023. Rsk6400 (talk) 06:08, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

I am not sure why you are asking to "get rid" of all of the articles which they created. The more significant elections are rigged, the insignificant regional ones in general not so much. The main elections with obvious rigging get international coverage. Did you check the sources for every single one of those articles? Because the sourcing is more than adequate enough, such as 2023 Khakassia head election. You claimed that "all" the pages in the category do not meet GNG and fail NPOV, but this is false. Even if they did not follow NPOV, this is not a reason for deletion. Mellk (talk) 06:19, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Rsk6400, You are free to cite reliable sources in the article and add proposed shortcomings. The article does not have a restricted access, so it should be quite easy. Soupsnake (talk) 15:53, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

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