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Invitation to an in-person meetup in Mohua / Golden Bay

Golden Bay Air are holding some seats for us until 21 November

Thinking about your summer break? Think about joining other Wikipedians and Wikimedians in Golden Bay / Mohua! Details are on the meetup page. There's heaps of interesting stuff to work on e.g. the oldest extant waka or New Zealand's oldest ongoing legal case. Or you may spend your time taking photos and then upload them.

Golden Bay is hard to get to and the airline flying into Tākaka uses small planes, so we are holding some seats from and to Wellington and we are offering attendees a $200 travel subsidy to help with costs.

Be in touch with Schwede66 if this event interests you and you'd like to discuss logistics. Schwede66 09:14, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

An historic

Please stop changing an historic to a historic. It's not an error. Masterhatch (talk) 18:52, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

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Hello. This edit violates WP:ONUS. Please self revert. Dovidroth (talk) 12:00, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

WP:ONUS is not for things you simply disagree with. Your personal feelings should not be used as a source. And regardless, you still never reached a consensus on the talk page. Salmoonlight (talk) 21:31, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Onus states that "The responsibility for achieving consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content". As such, as long as there is no consensus, you many not include the controversial text in the article. Dovidroth (talk) 07:53, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

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I got it the first time, you don't have to ping me again. And I haven't tried doing anything since that IP reverted me. How about you go on their talk page too? Salmoonlight (talk) 12:33, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

I corrected the message. I apologize if it pinged you twice. Dovidroth (talk) 12:52, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

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I've been editing in this topic for months now. Salmoonlight (talk) 16:24, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

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On npov tag in 2023 Israel-Hamas protests in the US

Hey salmoonlight :). So I saw you removed an npov tag I added [1]. So I opened a talk discussion and there pointed out several problems which were not addressed and which you did not reply too. Can you please restore the tag until we sort out the problems? From what I know one is usually supposed to answer in the talk and explain the removal. I imagine you did not notice the discussion that I opened. Would you like me to send you a link? Homerethegreat (talk) 18:32, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Manual of style information

Hello Salmoonlight, I because of this edit to Salicornia rubra I think you may not have seen the Wikipedia Manual of Style section on what generally should not be linked. It is generally a good idea to avoid linking commonly known places, people, etc. like United States in most articles. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 16:12, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Sacred mountains categories

Like all categorisation in Wikipedia, the addition of a category requires the article to have verified (appropriate cited) information that justifies that categorisation. I notice you are adding sacred mountain categories to some mountains in Queensland where there is no information in the article about the mountain being sacred or that claim is made but is uncited. So can you please ensure that the cited information is available in the article before categorisation. It is probably worthwhile being clear to whom it is sacred. Thanks 23:06, 28 February 2024 (UTC) Kerry (talk) 23:06, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

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Please self-revert 00:14, 3 March 2024. Further, please remember that the NPOV template should only be removed when the conditions to do so are met. BilledMammal (talk) 00:24, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

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Finding consensus at Talk:Allegations of genocide in the 2023 Israeli attack on Gaza

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Spacing

I see you are deleting spaces before stub tags. There should be two spaces before the stub tag. See: WP:STUBSPACING. Thanks! Masterhatch (talk) 22:06, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

I reverted several of your edits regarding spacing before stub tags. Please don't delete that 2nd space. Masterhatch (talk) 12:03, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

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sacred says who?

A month ago you were queried about Australian sacred mountains - now Indonesian - have you a source for the assertion? WP:RS = ??? thanks. JarrahTree 11:23, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

I created the Indonesia category because they were already categorized as sacred; I was simply diffusing the main category. Salmoonlight (talk) 19:07, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Fair enough - thanks for your answer, the problem being that where the trail starts or ends, the likelihood that the category is based on allusion rather than sources verifiable... cheers JarrahTree 12:54, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

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Categories

Please don't tuck the civil rights protests into a sub-sub-category, it should be right up front in the Civil rights movement category. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

@Salmoonlight I came here to also encourage you to slow down on your category creation. Many of your categories are very narrow and are missing obvious parent categories. I've done by best to tidy up, but please review policies about categories before you make more. Mason (talk) 22:21, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Category:Sacred mountains of New Zealand

Regarding your newly created Category:Sacred mountains of New Zealand, what is your inclusion criteria? I’m concerned that it will either end up filled with almost every mountain in the country, or will be excessively subjective. And it’s very likely to be woefully under-filled for a while at least, if we only fill it based on current article contents, to the point of being misrepresentative. — HTGS (talk) 23:37, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Category:Sacred lakes

Semi-related: how are you assessing the addition of lakes to this category (Category:Sacred lakes)? I noticed you added Lake Tikitapu (the Blue Lake), which does happen to have the word tapu in it, but is generally not regarded as sacred. However, I’m not sure if you meant to add Lake Rotokākahi (the Green Lake), which is currently tapu. I’m hesitant to add that one though, just because I don’t have a great understanding of how exactly sacred-ness is considered, and tapu in many cases may not mean quite the same thing. — HTGS (talk) 02:47, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Never mind, a quick search for “Rotokakahi sacred” gives “The lake is … considered tapu or sacred”[2] so that’s easy ;) — HTGS (talk) 02:50, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

It's honestly been so long since I went on that spree with sacred natural sites that I don't really remember my criteria for those categories, sorry. For Lake Tikitapu though, I presumably added it based off of the first paragraph in its history section. Salmoonlight (talk) 03:18, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

similarly

The category - Sacred mountains of Indonesia The sacred mountains of Indonesia - any memory as to the criterion? Tourist information that is created in Indonesia has some very enthusiastic phrases for sites in Indonesia. Interestingly the lead paragraph of the Mount Lawu article has it identified as one of the eighteen sacred mountains of Central Java’’ I am still trying to track things to do with that claim...… It would be interesting if there are any clues as to why items got included from your point of view. JarrahTree 15:14, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

I don't see anything in the lede about it being sacred as you describe, but I probably added it based off of the Religious significance section. Salmoonlight (talk) 05:33, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

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The tag should only be used if the article is sufficiently long. This article, like many stub and start articles, is short enough that it is fine with just one section [3] And honestly, sections are not difficult to add so you should consider just fixing the issue you identified—if adding sections would be a genuine improvement, not the case if each section is just one paragraph—rather than drive by tagging it. (t · c) buidhe 14:03, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

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Who is this jerk Chauncey Green, pretending to fight vandalism by vandalizing pages s/he has no stake or interest in ??? There seem to be quite a few people affected. We should report him/her. Peteruetz (talk) 09:59, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

The admins have dealt with him now. I've struck the false warning. A^♭m ^(Ring!) _(Notes) 14:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

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A cup of tea for you!

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For making edits in the Palestine–Israel topic area after off-wiki canvassing requests, and encouraging other users to game the extended confirmed restriction and engage in disruptive editing, Ïvana (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely banned from Wikipedia. This ban may be appealed twelve months after the enactment of this remedy, and every twelve months thereafter.

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Abstain: Moneytrees

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Oppose: HJ Mitchell

Abstain: Sdrqaz

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