User talk:Ringbang/Archive 4

Archive 1

Archive 2

Archive 3

Archive 4

Archive 5

Request on 13:28:02, 11 July 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by LeaveittoLindsay

• LeaveittoLindsay (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:European Flavours & Fragrances (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Ringbang, I'm new to wikipedia and have spent hours trying to understand what I can do to get this listing published? I'm not understanding why it's being rejected as the company has a lot of credible references listed under the references section. Thank you in advance! I appreciate your time and help! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:European_Flavours_&_Fragrances

LeaveittoLindsay (talk) 13:28, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Draft:As Sayyid Al Imaam Isa Al Haadi Al Mahdi‎

Hi - actually he's very notable. The problem is he's Dwight York (I linked him in the draft when I spotted it) and we already have an article, this is a pov unsourced version. You might want to revise your reason. Doug Weller talk 17:50, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Wikiversity Journal of Medicine, an open access peer reviewed journal with no charges, invites you to participate

Did you know about Wikiversity Journal of Medicine? It is an open access, peer reviewed medical journal, with no publication charges. We welcome you to have a look. Feel free to participate.

You can participate in any one or more of the following ways:

• Publish an article to the journal.
• Sign up as a peer reviewer of potential upcoming articles. If you do not have expertise in these subjects, you can help in finding peer reviewers for current submissions.
• Sign up as an editor, and help out in open tasks.
• Outreach to potential contributors, with can include (but is not limited to) scholars and health professionals. In any mention of Wikiversity Journal of Medicine, there may be a reference to this Contribute-page. Example presentation about the journal.
• Add a post-publication review of an existing publication. If errors are found, there are guidelines for editing published works.
• Apply to become the treasurer of the journal
• Join the editorial board.
• Share your ideas of what the journal would be like in the future as separate Wikimedia project.
• Donate to Wikimedia Foundation.
• Translate journal pages into other languages. Wikiversity currently exists in the following other languages
  • Ceština, Deutsch, Español, Français, Italiano, 한국어, Português, Slovenšcina, Suomi, Svenska, Ελληνικά, Русский, العربية, 日本語
• Technical work like template designing for the journal.
• Sign up to get emails related to the journal, which are sent to updateswijoumed.org. If you want to receive these emails too, state your interest at the talk page, or contact the Editor-in-chief at haggstrom.mikaelwikiversityjournal.org.
• Spread the word to anyone who could be interested or could benefit from it.

The future of this journal as a separate Wikimedia project is under discussion and the name can be changed suitably. Currently a voting for the same is underway. Please cast your vote in the name you find most suitable. We would be glad to receive further suggestions from you. It is also acceptable to mention your votes in the wide-reachwikiversityjournal.org email list. Please note that the voting closes on 16th August, 2016, unless protracted by consensus, due to any reason.

-from Diptanshu.D (talk · contribs · count) and others of the Editorial Board, Wikiversity Journal of Medicine.

Diptanshu^Talk 19:41, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Your redactive edits

…at Wikipedia article traffic, though well-meaning, removed the only parts of the article that were sourced. Poorly sourced, yes. Largely WP:OR, yes. But still, better than what remains behind. Can you either return your removed information, or delete the whole article? Cheers. Le Prof 50.224.57.42 (talk) 11:38, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I opened an AfD discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wikipedia article traffic. —Ringbang (talk) 14:36, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

New Page Review needs your help

Hi Ringbang,

As an AfC reviewer you're probably aware that a new user right has been created for patrolling new pages (you might even have been granted the right already, and admins have it automatically).

Since July there has been a very serious backlog at Special:NewPagesFeed of over 14,000 pages, by far the worst since 2011, and we need an all out drive to get this back down to just a few hundred that can be easily maintained in the future. Unlike AfC, these pages are already in mainspace, and the thought of what might be there is quite scary. There are also many good faith article creators who need a simple, gentle push to the Tea House or their pages converted to Draft rather than being deleted.

Although New Page Reviewing can occasionally be somewhat more challenging than AfC, the criteria for obtaining the right are roughly the same. The Page Curation tool is even easier to use than the Helper Script, so it's likely that most AfC reviewers already have more than enough knowledge for the task of New Page Review.

It is hoped that AfC reviewers will apply for this right at WP:PERM and lend a hand. You'll need to have read the page at WP:NPR and the new tutorial.

(Sent to all active AfC reviewers) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:33, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!

Hello, Ringbang. Voting in the 2016 Arbitration Committee elections is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. Mdann52 (talk) 22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Request on 21:51:34, 4 December 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Justaussie

• Justaussie (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:J. Morris Slemons (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Justaussie (talk) 21:51, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi, My name is Justine Browne - I am the daughter of Marshall Browne author and I just tried to update his page to include the full list of his books including the newest release and to add to his bio. I spent considerable time updating this and I got a reply that it has not been accepted. Please advise why this is? I received a reply that the list of books was up to date - but it is not correct as it was missing 3 of his titles including the newest. Please advise how I can make my updates and insert his official author photo for his final book bio. Thanks for your help. Justine Browne

BBC 12-hour Editathon - large influx of new pages & drafts expected

AfC Reviewers are asked to be especially on the look out 08:00-20:00 UTC (that's local London time - check your USA and AUS times) on Thursday 8 December for new pages. The BBC together with Wikimedia UK is holding a large 12-hour editathon. Many new articles and drafts are expected. See BBC 100 Women 2016: How to join our edit-a-thon. Follow also on #100womenwiki, and please, don't bite the newbies :) (user:Kudpung for NPR. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:02, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Erroneous revert?

Please look again - thanks. 81.141.56.172 (talk) 16:04, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Hello, please read lines 10 and 11 of WP:LINKSTOAVOID. —Ringbang (talk) 23:26, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Please look again - my edit removed the link, yours reinstated it. 81.141.56.172 (talk) 23:35, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

My mistake. Corrected. —Ringbang (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Template:RAID

Dude, your link was still pointing to the desired disambiguation page. But without the redirect the template will keep showing up in maintenance lists. So, unlink it or redirect it. But keep it out of the maintenance lists. The Banner talk 11:42, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

@The Banner: Sorry, I intended to undo my own edit to update the link. Please remember to assume good faith. —Ringbang (talk) 11:57, 5 January 2017 (UTC) (not a dude)

The WikiProject rater gadget

From your contribution history it seems to me you might be interested in this tool for WikiProject-assessing: User:Kephir/gadgets/rater. I find it very useful and it has saved me many hours of time already. Just wanted to let you know about it. Btw: there's countless of free software articles that still miss the WikiProject banner...

--Fixuture (talk) 19:54, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

@Fixuture: Thanks, I might try this out. Updating so many talk pages can be quite tedious. —Ringbang (talk) 19:24, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

February 18 Wikipedia Day event in DTLA

LA Wikipedia Day Celebration (February 18)

Dear fellow Wikipedian, Please join us at our Wikipedia Day celebration at the Ace Hotel in downtown Los Angeles on Saturday, February 18, 2017 from 11 am to 5 pm! This event will feature lectures, panel discussions, lightning talks, open space discussions and collaboration, and--most importantly--cake! Please RSVP on the event page if you're thinking of joining us. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:35, 2 February 2017 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

Request on 19:55:14, 2 February 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by John Warner Smith

• John Warner Smith (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:John Warner Smith (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

John Warner Smith (talk) 19:55, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

File:Screenshot of the WorldCat.org homepage, 29 March 2017.png listed for discussion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Screenshot of the WorldCat.org homepage, 29 March 2017.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Codename Lisa (talk) 05:05, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Neutral notice

This is a neutral notice to all registered editors at RuPaul's Drag Race and Talk:RuPaul's Drag Race this year (2017) that an RfC on sourcing and citing has begun at Talk:RuPaul's Drag Race#Request for comment. --Tenebrae (talk) 14:23, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Changes made to Sloppy disambiguation page

Hi I am the creator of the Sloppy (disambiguation) page. You may have been right about removing some of my edits claiming that they were unambiguous (I attend to later write articles on those as well). But the ones with Sloppy as the first word shouldn't have been removed. Also the one's that don't have the world sloppy in the front can go in the see also section. Davidgoodheart (talk) 03:30, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

@Davidgoodheart: Hi David, thanks for writing. Listings like Sloppy joe and the "See also" additions are specifically what WP:PTM says not to add. The only time to add partial title matches is when the partial match is an alternate name for the subject. Since no one calls a sloppy joe "a sloppy", it's a partial title match and not to be included. Sloppy the Psychotic can be included since the title character's name is Sloppy. (That entry should probably be revised accordingly.) Sloppy Giuseppe is an appropriate entry only if there's evidence that its commonly known as "a Sloppy" in the UK. Template:In title is an appropriate substitute for listing PTMs in the "See also" section.

Also, per MOS:DABORDER, section headings are for lengthy lists that require grouping to make finding the desired sense easier. In a short dab page like this, they're unnecessary and can even be counterproductive. —Ringbang (talk) 03:55, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi, I have moved the foods that are named sloppy to the "See also section". There is a "See also section" on most disambiguation pages, so they do belong there, I would still like to keep the other "sloppys" as part of my article in any way I can, can you think of some ideas that I can use? Davidgoodheart (talk) 05:14, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Did you read WP:PTM? Having a "See also" section is fine, but there are guidelines about what is appropriate to put there. Template:In title and Template:Look from are the alternative to listing individual partial title matches. Beyond that, users can use the search interface (which has autocomplete). If there were only one or two PTMs, I would probably add them instead of using the PTM templates; I believe that approach is supported by MOS:DABSEEALSO, too. In this case there are too many to list, and doing so would be counterproductive; so the templates are a good alternative. We might ask ourselves: How did the person get to the disambiguation page in the first place? Where were they trying to go? How can we help them get there as easily as possible?

I understand if you think of the page as yours, but remember that no one owns a page. —Ringbang (talk) 16:18, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi, if you look at these disambiguation pages Spider (disambiguation), Wonder (disambiguation), Beast (disambiguation), and Boston (disambiguation) you will see that under wonder is the wonder years, small wonder, and wonder woman, under spider is spiderman and spider woman, and under beast is Beast Man (I had put Beast Man on "the beast" disambiguation page, but it was moved to beast page by an administrator) and under Boston is the title Boston pizza which is the same format that I was using. So why then is my formatting wrong? I may have to contact an administrator for help to resolve this issue. Davidgoodheart (talk) 19:33, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi David,

Looking at other dab pages is not an ideal way to learn about Wikipedia policy and best practices. After all, how can you know whether editors on that page followed best practices, especially since dab pages aren't graded? Policy and MoS pages are much more reliable; for disambiguation pages, that means WP:DAB and WP:MOSDAB, and the policies that apply directly to this particular question are WP:PTM and MOS:DABSEEALSO.

Of course you're welcome to ask other editors for their help or perspective on an issue! Three places you can do that are at The Teahouse, WT:WikiProject Disambiguation, and WP:EAR. You also might find WP:THIRDOPINION helpful. As for administrator requests, WP:RAA lists the kinds of situations that administrators can help with.

Cases like this sometimes result in a refinement of policy. I've started a conversation about it at WT:MOSDAB#Clarification of policy on partial title matches. —Ringbang (talk) 22:52, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Copying within Wikipedia requires proper attribution

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you copied or moved text from Brideshead Revisited into Brideshead Revisited (TV serial). While you are welcome to re-use Wikipedia's content, here or elsewhere, Wikipedia's licensing does require that you provide attribution to the original contributor(s). When copying within Wikipedia, this is supplied at minimum in an edit summary at the page into which you've copied content, disclosing the copying and linking to the copied page, e.g., copied content from [[page name]]; see that page's history for attribution. It is good practice, especially if copying is extensive, to also place a properly formatted {{copied}} template on the talk pages of the source and destination. The attribution has been provided for this situation, but if you have copied material between pages before, even if it was a long time ago, please provide attribution for that duplication. You can read more about the procedure and the reasons at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. Thank you. If you are the sole author of the prose that was moved, attribution is not required. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:45, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Blackandgoldtruthbetold (talk) 10:45, 10 May 2017 (UTC): Kurt Riley

Hello, Ringbang! Thanks for overseeing the Kurt Riley entry and advising regarding the notability guidelines. The sources used on that page include The Cornell Daily Sun (a leading college newspaper, ranked #1 in the nation by The Princeton Review in 2013), WVBR (one of the most reputable radio stations in Central New York) and The Ithaca Journal (a notable newspaper in publication since the 19th Century, now part of the USA Today Network). Do these sources not establish notability?

Thanks for your guidance. I'm a long-time Wiki user (since the early 2000s), but I've just joined the community!

Welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you decide to stay and keep contributing.

Evaluating the notability of a subject isn't just about looking at the sources in the article, but also trying to determine how much material about the subject there is in independent sources. I find the subject here to be of questionable notability because of the apparent scarcity of coverage, and because (from what I've seen) the deepest coverage comes from sources that are closest to the artist. I could not find any coverage of Riley outside the city of Ithaca, where Riley attended university and now lives.

I would say that only two of the sources cited in the article contribute to notability: Ithaca.com and the Ithaca Journal. Per WP:MUSICBIO, coverage in The Cornell Daily Sun (a college newspaper) does not contribute to the notability of a musician. I interpret this policy also to extend to the WVBR-FM interview. KurtRiley.com and the music videos are primary sources; as such, they can be cited for some assertions, but they do not help to establish notability. Even if we conclude that WVBR-FM contributes to notability, these three local news sources do not constitute enough independent coverage to pass the general notability guideline. Meanwhile, the criteria for musician notability prefer recognition on at least a national scale, except in extraordinary cases. —Ringbang (talk) 20:57, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Come and join us at the Wiknic

LA Meetup: 6th Wiknic, 7/15 @ Pan Pacific Park

Dear fellow Wikipedian, You are cordially invited to the 6th Los Angeles Wiknic, a part of the nationwide Great American Wiknic. We'll be grilling, getting to know each other better, and building the L.A. Wikipedia community! The event is planned for Pan-Pacific Park and will be held on Saturday, July 15, 2017 from 9:30am to 4pm or so. Please RSVP and volunteer to bring food or drinks if possible! I hope to see you there! Howcheng (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:02, 26 May 2017 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

Wiki Loves Pride 2017

You are invited to create and improve LGBT-related content at Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects throughout the month of June as part of the fourth annual Wiki Loves Pride campaign. Feel free to add new and expanded content on the project's Results page. Happy editing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:08, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

We're on Twitter!

WikiLGBT is on Twitter!

Hello Ringbang! Follow the Wikimedia LGBT user group on Twitter at @wikilgbt for news, photos, and other topics of interest to LGBT Wikipedans and allies. Use #wikiLGBT to share any Wiki Loves Pride stuff that you would like to share (whether this month or any day of the year) or to alert folks to things that the LGBT Wikipedan community should know. RachelWex (talk) For more information about Wiki Loves Pride, → click here ←.

RachelWex 17:43, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of TransGeneration

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article TransGeneration you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sagecandor -- Sagecandor (talk) 00:40, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

@Sagecandor: Right in the middle of Pride month: Thank you and good timing! —Ringbang (talk) 02:24, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of TransGeneration

The article TransGeneration you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:TransGeneration for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sagecandor -- Sagecandor (talk) 23:01, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

GA on hold, please see Talk:TransGeneration/GA1. Sagecandor (talk) 21:11, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Five Satans listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Five Satans. Since you had some involvement with the Five Satans redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. PRehse (talk) 08:53, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

02:54:37, 29 June 2017 review of submission by Elvisbrandenburgkremmen

• Elvisbrandenburgkremmen (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:G-4 visa (US) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Just a general commentary on this. Whether one believes that the content was "good enough", it's now been 6 months with effectively no clear content whatsoever on this topic. Arguably, it's better for knowledge as a whole to put something rather than nothing, as nothing gets no improvement.

Elvisbrandenburgkremmen (talk) 02:54, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi Elvisbrandenburgkremmen, I hear your frustration. Visa policy of the United States has had a basic description of the G-4 visa since 21 January 2007‎. A well-intentioned editor redirected G-4 visa to G-3 visa, but I fixed that redirect yesterday. One of the amazing things about Wikipedia is that even though it's a free service built almost entirely by volunteers, we work toward editorial excellence. When you said "I don't work for you", you wrote the truth: None of us works for any other person here, but we do work together. —Ringbang (talk) 02:19, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. That's great.

Elvisbrandenburgkremmen (talk) 22:00, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

De Agostini (disambiguation)

hi Ringbang. About De Agostini (disambiguation): it' s all clear and ok. Thank you for your messagge. Bye 93.185.26.103 (talk) 10:22, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Request on 15:45:10, 12 July 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Goldstein63

• Goldstein63 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Computer Services, Inc. (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Good morning!

I am fairly new to Wikipedia. Since creating an account, I have edited several articles (and had more fun than I ever thought I would copy editing), but have never published an original article. After reading the articles on reliable, published sources and notability and the golden rule, I decided to give it a shot.

I know that publishing an article about a company requires informative, unbiased content that doesn't read like an advertisement. After several rounds of edits, I think I did a good job of that. However, I may have stripped out so much that the article's notability has come into question. In regard to my article, do you have any specific recommendations for increasing notability without making the article look like ad copy? For example, should I create a separate article for the company's founder? Should I add cited awards and accomplishments?

To help my article creation and publishing process, I thought it would be a good idea to model my article off of Fiserv, which is a company in the same space. But I noticed that it also got pinged for neutrality, ad-like content and other issues. I want to avoid those things and publish a clean, streamlined and informative article, so any suggestions you have would be much appreciated.

Thank you so much for working with me on this, and have an excellent day!

Goldstein63 (talk) 15:45, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Electronic music#Sub-project EDM

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Electronic music#Sub-project EDM as a participant of WP:WikiProject Electronic music. - TheMagnificentist 13:44, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of TransGeneration

The article TransGeneration you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:TransGeneration for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sagecandor -- Sagecandor (talk) 18:21, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Good job! Sagecandor (talk) 19:27, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

​ Thanks again. I appreciate the feedback. —Ringbang (talk) 19:28, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

You're welcome! Sagecandor (talk) 19:28, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Re Nicholas Claxton

On 3 July, I sent you an email concerning Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nicholas Claxton. Can you confirm receipt, and let me know the status? As a reminder, you said "Show me that he won the Emmy, and I'll rewrite the article instead of voting for deletion ". Proof is available.--S Philbrick(Talk) 14:29, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi Sphilbrick, when you say "proof is available", do you mean a reliable source that is verifiable by Wikipedia readers? I'm familiar with this list of winners and nominees, which lists two broadcasts of Cry, Ethiopia, Cry; the one marked as a national award winner credits Mark Obenhaus, Edward Gray, and Michael Schwarz. —Ringbang (talk) 18:06, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

I've seen a photo, which I can share with you. That doesn't qualify as a published source, but may be helpful. It does have his name, as opposed being more generic. I can't pretend to be an expert on Emmys, although my nephew has one and it has his name on it — I believe he received it individually as opposed to being part of a group. It is possible I misinterpreted the inscription, but you probably know more about that than I do.--S Philbrick(Talk) 18:51, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

@Sphilbrick: Yes, could you please post the photo to an image host? Otherwise, are we talking about an Emmy for work on Seeds of Despair or for Cry, Ethopia, Cry? —Ringbang (talk) 20:41, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I somehow missed this ping. For "Cry Ethiopia, Cry" 27 November 1984 Nicholas Claxton producer.

He separately included a photo of cableACE awards as the producer of "Linda McCartney: behind the lens"

Not being the copyright holder, I'm not prepared to move the photos to a public place but I will check with him to see if he'll give me permission to email them to you. As an FYI, I will point him to this discussion.--S Philbrick(Talk) 17:55, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Maintainance templates on Gubal (instrument)

You added a number of maintainance templates on Gubal (instrument). The templates are unspecific. Please specify the problems you detected in the article on the talk page. Otherwise I am not able to improve the article. Which passages do you think are written like an advertisement? Which sources are lacking? Which secondary sources do you suggest? Why is the article not notable? And if it is not notable why don't you suggest a deletion? --Ixkeys (talk) 22:49, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

LA event this Thursday

LA Meetup: September 7 edit-a-thon near DTLA

Dear fellow Wikipedian, You have been invited to a meetup and edit-a-thon at the LA84 Foundation in Jefferson Park (near DTLA) on Thursday, September 7, 2017 from 5:45 p.m. to 9:00 p.m.! This event aims to improve coverage of female Olympians and Paralympians (some of whom will be attending!). There will be a deejay and food/drinks, and kids are welcome. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:09, 2 September 2017 (UTC) Join our Facebook group, follow our Twitter account, and like our Facebook page!! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

14:36, 19 September 2017

I'm curious as to why you removed the Canadian Pride Flag and the Flag of Windsor, ON. I put the Pride Flag under Others/Non-Official flags, was that not the appropriate place to put it? It would seem to me that it is just as much a symbol of Canada as the Anglican Church of Canada Flag, the flag of the Grand Orange Lodge, and the Duality Flag. Does it not deserve a mention in the list of Canadian Flags? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zachgriff11 (talk • contribs) 00:04, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Zachgriff11, you can find my explanation at Talk:List of Canadian flags#Canadian Pride Flag. —Ringbang (talk) 01:34, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Followup

I'm in an awkward situation.

I've seen evidence that Nicholas Claxton won the Emmy, and you said, "how me that he won the Emmy, and I'll rewrite the article instead of voting for deletion"

Please let me know if that was an idle claim without foundation or if you were serious.

I'm surprised and an Emmy winner would not meet our notability requirements. I fully understand that he actually did not it would be a different story.

If you are willing to work on writing the article I hope you will inform me of that so I can pass information along. If you're not willing to work on it, please let me know as well so I can try to figure out how to properly respond.--S Philbrick(Talk) 19:49, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

See also sections

Hello, per WP:NOTDIRECTORY #7, Wikipedia has a long-established practice of not using "See also" sections to list competing products. That's what "List of" articles and Categories are for. The "it's contemporaneous" justification falls flat simply because there are almost countless things that could be considered as such for any given topic. You could list every manufacturer that created an Android phone, or every PC manufacturer that sold a particular version of a operating system. Think about it this way -- would it make sense to add Manchester as a "See also" of London? I mean, they're contemporaneous, right? No, of course not, because every city article in the UK would have a list of every other city. Right? Further edits of this kind will be reverted without further discussion. Warren -talk- 15:07, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

ArbCom 2017 election voter message

Hello, Ringbang. Voting in the 2017 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 10 December. All users who registered an account before Saturday, 28 October 2017, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Wednesday, 1 November 2017 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2017 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:42, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

14:14:54, 2 June 2016 review of submission by Ahuang8

• Ahuang8 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:OriGene Technologies (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I thought there are already quite a lot of external links. OriGene Technologies has close to 70M revenue and lots of offices over the world.

I read through the Wikipedia:Notability section and feel like OriGene Technologies page meets the guideline. There are quite a lot of guidelines given. Can you please let me know which part I need to improve? Thanks a lot.

00:36:07, 19 June 2016 review of submission by Wilton96

• Wilton96 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Man vs Snake: The Long and Twisted Tale of Nibbler (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Multiple, non-primary references and external links have been added to the article.

14:03:12, 27 June 2016 review of submission by Nicwin10

• Nicwin10 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Grand Rapids Community Foundation (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello Ringbang,

I am a new user and would really like to edit this to make it an acceptable page. Could you please give me some guidance on what content I can change to diminish the "promotional" quality? Any other advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

16:01:55, 5 July 2016 review of submission by Eddwagner

• Eddwagner (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Ms. Victoria Horne (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Am not sure if I have any good reliable sources or if I need to remove certain ones. Thank you Edd

02:28:17, 5 February 2017 review of submission by Jacopobelbo1234

• Jacopobelbo1234 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Vedat Şar (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

The article is well-sourced, does not include any superlative statements, so I have difficulty understanding which parts read as "puffery." Can you please specify?

17:37:40, 27 February 2017 review of submission by Elvisbrandenburgkremmen

• Elvisbrandenburgkremmen (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:G-4 visa (US) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I don't understand the hesitance of wikipedia mods in cases like this. A short technical stub article is in effect better than nothing. Asking for a full rewrite simply causes author to not put information up, leaving the public with a loss of valuable information.

A case of "i don't work for you".

Women in Red World Contest

Hi. We're into the last five days of the Women in Red World Contest. There's a new bonus prize of $200 worth of books of your choice to win for creating the most new women biographies between 0:00 on the 26th and 23:59 on 30th November. If you've been contributing to the contest, thank you for your support, we've produced over 2000 articles. If you haven't contributed yet, we would appreciate you taking the time to add entries to our articles achievements list by the end of the month. Thank you, and if participating, good luck with the finale!

[untitled]

Ringbang,

I have posted all available citeable news articles regarding Mr. Banks. All work is verifiable and not original work. Given Mr. Banks litany of legal and political troubles, I am not sure what can be done to make this article more positive, without censoring the news coverage. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!Norris.michaelj (talk) 03:38, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

ANI Experiences survey

The Wikimedia Foundation Community health initiative (led by the Safety and Support and Anti-Harassment Tools team) is conducting a survey for en.wikipedia contributors on their experience and satisfaction level with the Administrator’s Noticeboard/Incidents. This survey will be integral to gathering information about how this noticeboard works - which problems it deals with well, and which problems it struggles with.

The survey should take 10-20 minutes to answer, and your individual responses will not be made public. The survey is delivered through Google Forms. The privacy policy for the survey describes how and when Wikimedia collects, uses, and shares the information we receive from survey participants and can be found here:

• https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/2017_AN/Incidents_Survey_Privacy_Statement

If you would like to take this survey, please sign up on this page, and a link for the survey will be mailed to you via Special:Emailuser.

• Sign up here to receive a link to a survey

Please be aware this survey will close Friday, Dec. 8 at 23:00 UTC.

Thank you on behalf of the Support & Safety and Anti-Harassment Tools Teams, Patrick Earley (WMF) talk 21:14, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

[Thank you]

	The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
	For your fine contributions to Wikipedia, including starting an infobox at L'Intermédiaire des chercheurs et curieux. gidonb (talk) 05:34, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

18:06:02, 11 January 2018 review of submission by Tatewaki

• Tatewaki (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Keren Pevzner (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Dear colleague, could you please clarify what can be done to assure the notability of this person? Just to make sure it wasn't missed - I considered that she meets the criterion of "(c) has won significant critical attention", and the draft has links to a number of reviews (though mostly to copies of reviews rather than official archives of original publisher). Would it help if I manage to get fully accurate addressation for these reviews (e.g. issue and page numbers for the newspaper-published reviews)? Or the criterion means really massive critics, like several dozens of reviews? Tatewaki (talk) 18:06, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

@Tatewaki: Hello! Yes, you can add inline citations to multiple reliable, independent secondary sources. The coverage must be about Ms. Pevzner, and at least some of it must be in-depth. There are also special criteria for authors which might apply here (if, for example, one of her works is especially significant). At present, the article is mostly unsourced personal information; per WP:BLP, all of this should be sourced with high-quality references. If you can't find a source for some information, then please remove it. I also recommend revising the article to make it clearer what she is known for. —Ringbang (talk) 18:31, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Request on 17:04:03, 14 January 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Winters19

• Winters19 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Nick Z. Marino (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I would appreciate your assistance with referencing regarding the Draft: Nick Z. Marino which was declined on January 9, 2018. If I delete references 1-4, would this satisfy the guidelines and requirements in order to have this article accepted? Please advise. Thank you. Winters19 (talk) 17:04, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Winters19. No, that won't make a difference for notability, but here is a brief overview of the kinds of sources that do help to establish notability. It's okay to use a source more than once, like you did with The Metal Archives, but this particular reference isn't a strong one because it's a tertiary source with user-generated content. For citing sources for your article, you have two main goals: to provide reliable sources for facts, and for at least some of those sources to establish notability. If you're having trouble finding enough coverage, have a look at the notability policy on musicians to see if Nick Marino meets any of the criteria. —Ringbang (talk) 15:15, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day LA, March 31

Wikipedia Day LA 2018

Please join us from 10:00 am - 5:00 pm on Saturday, March 31st for Wikipedia Day LA 2018 at the Ace Hotel in downtown Los Angeles. There will be speakers, panel discussions, a presentation on Wikidata, flash sessions, and a discussion about the formation of an LA User Group. There could be dramatic readings of LA-related talk pages, and there will be truly excellent cake. Please RSVP on the event page if you're thinking of joining us. We hope to see you there! JSFarman (talk) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:18, 9 March 2018 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here, and follow us on Twitter . To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

Reverting my edits

Hi @Ringbang. I am trying to help out the community on Wiki, by checking spelling errors thoroughly and spending my time going through these by hand. Am I not meant to be correcting the grammar of Wikipedia pages? Love to hear from you. Kind regards, Tom — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomtheman2 (talk • contribs) 16:48, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

)

Tomtheman2 (talk) 16:49, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Nick Z Marino

Good evening. I am sorry for the delay. I did research and Nick Z Marino (Zeljko Marinovic) published two albums in former Yugoslavia on major record labels in 1987 and 1992. I referenced these releases. One label is Jugodisc and the other is RTB-PGP. I also found that these two record labels appear on Wikipedia. Please advise. Thank you. (Winters19 (talk) 02:55, 19 March 2018 (UTC))

​Hi,

Information in the article must be verifiable from reliable sources. Right now much of the article is unsourced, and it relies heavily on Discogs and the Encyclopaedia Metallum. In cases like this, these sites only contribute to notability insofar as they can help to evidence (through cover art, barcodes, etc.) the publication of an album. To establish notability, try to find in-depth coverage about Marino in several independent secondary sources. keyboardmag.com is a reliable source, and the interview is an example of in-depth coverage. My advice is to try to find more articles about (or interviews with) Marino in reliable magazines, books, websites, and TV shows. You can also look for reviews of his solo albums. The reviews should not be from self-published blogs.

Jugodisk and PGP RB are indeed major labels, but the Jugodisk release was by Unučići, and Marino was a band member. Individual band-members do not inherit notability from the band: to be "notable" by Wikipedia standards, they must meet the criteria in WP:BAND or WP:GNG. If you have more questions, you can ask me or you can ask at the Teahouse. Good luck in your search! —Ringbang (talk) 22:40, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Excuse me please

Why do you keep undoing my edits for no good reason? Please stop! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.39.207.44 (talk) 13:12, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

11:24:21, 27 March 2018 review of submission by 91.202.129.197

• 91.202.129.197 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Theory of Probability and Mathematical Statistics (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Dear Ringbang,

I was asked to help to improve this article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Theory_of_Probability_and_Mathematical_Statistics). Since you've declined it due to inadequate sources, I will appreciate if you provide more details about this.

My suggestions for improvements are:

• do not list "journal homepage", since it is the journal's page on the publisher's website
• do not list full "editorial board" (I've read that in some wikipedia tips)

Thanks.

91.202.129.197 (talk) 11:24, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi,

A link to the journal's official website is welcome and encouraged. As for the list of board members, you are correct: It probably should not be included. However, the rejection for lack of reliable sources is due to the fact that the article cites no sources. Some references to primary sources are fine, but most should be to secondary sources that have no connection to the journal. Some of those sources should evidence direct, in-depth coverage. Please cite your sources by using inline citations. Most, if not all, of the material in the article should be cited. —Ringbang (talk) 16:41, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Twistlock Inc

Hello, I'm not quite sure what you meant with your comment right about now. You commented by saying that the article is a Coatrack article, but the article in question speaks only about what it is meant to discuss. Can you please provide me with more information? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsideshow (talk • contribs) 16:26, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

The article was rejected because it is promotional. My intention in linking WP:COATRACK was only to draw attention to the article's promotional emphasis on the company's product. But yes, it is not a coatrack article since it is just as promotional in regard to the nominal subject. —Ringbang (talk) 16:58, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Interested in becoming a new page patroller?

User:Amorymeltzer/sandbox/npp/note ~ Amory (u • t • c) 17:31, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

​ Hey Amory, I thought I registered for this at some point, but to date I haven't done any NPR work. Is there a permission that gets revoked if it's not used? I don't see it on my list of user rights. In any case, I'll check out the documentation. —Ringbang (talk) 00:46, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Years ago you might've taken an interest — originally the patrol userright was part of the autoconfirmed user package, but an RfC in October 2016 removed it to create a new permission. In some sense, granting this would just restore a right you had previously, regardless of whether you used it or not. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 00:55, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

There is no obligation to review articles and there is currently no proviso to take away the flag if not used. — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)} 06:39, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Mindy

Hey there! Great job on the Mindy Alper page... Hope you'll submit it to Did You Know! Girona7 (talk) 19:21, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

@Girona7: Hi! Thanks again. I didn't even think about DYK! Okay, I'll submit it once I add a few things. —Ringbang (talk) 20:47, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

@Ringbang: Awesome. I looked for a free image (as I imagine you probably did also) but no dice... Girona7 (talk) 03:04, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

@Girona7: I'm glad you checked, I hadn't gotten that far yet. I plan to submit this tomorrow or (at the latest) the day after, but either way I'll give you a heads-up first in case you have some pending changes. Ringbang (talk) 06:14, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

@Girona7: Okay, I'm not 100% done, but I'm ready to submit. Got any to-dos? Ringbang (talk) 17:33, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

@Ringbang: Ack, I'm so sorry, but I don't get notifications to my email so I am just seeing your last couple of notes. Great job on the nomination; my $.02 if it's not too late to update is that the hook should be related to the Oscars. Something like "...that Mindy Alper, the subject of this year's Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature, could not speak for a period of 10 years?" (You'd need to add a sentence about this to the article; the Hugh Hart LA Times piece would be a good reference.) Regarding an image: I'm just about to email the director of the film to see if he can help. Will update you if that comes through... In any case, the article turned out lovely so thank you for doing it! Girona7 (talk) 13:50, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

​ No problem. I think you make good suggestions. I'd like to rewatch the documentary before I revisit the article, so I've been fiddling with other tasks in the meantime. A photo would be terrific, of course! Thanks for that. —Ringbang (talk) 22:56, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

@Ringbang: Took a while, but I finally got the appropriate permission for an image provided by the director! It's now up. Cheers, Girona7 (talk) 14:25, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

​ What a great improvement! Thank you! —Ringbang (talk) 17:08, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Mindy Alper

Hello! Your submission of Mindy Alper at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Innisfree987 (talk) 21:19, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Ringbang, it has been over three weeks, and you have yet to respond to the review. If you wish to continue with your DYK nomination, we need to hear from you soon. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:36, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Final call for a response. It's very important that you continue participating in this process if you wish this to be featured on Wikipedia's main page. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:30, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Arts Datathon!

LA County Civic Arts Datathon!

Please join us for the LA County Arts Commission Civic Art Wikipedia Edit-a-thon. Beginners are welcome! We'll provide training for new editors. (See the meetup page for more details.) Friday, April 27, 2018, 9:00-5:00 Bob Hope Patriotic Hall, 1816 S. Figueroa St., Los Angeles, CA 90015. We hope to see you there! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:09, 25 April 2018 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here, and follow us on Twitter . To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

Invitation to join WikiProject Corruption

Hi @Ringbang: I noticed your support for the proposal to start WikiProject Corruption. This is an invitation to join the new project. Best Regards.-Masssly (talk) 10:49, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

You are invited. Join us on Saturday, June 30 at the Minneapolis Central Library

Wiki Loves Pride 2018 at the Minneapolis Central Library

Hello Ringbang! Join us for a communal updating of Wikipedia entries: the Wiki Loves Pride 2018 edit-a-thon at the Minneapolis Central Library Saturday, June 30 from 12 to 4 pm. We will be providing reference materials, training for new editors, and refreshments. paul2520 (talk) 01:52, 30 May 2018 (UTC) Date: Saturday, June 30, 2018 Location: Minneapolis Central Library, 300 Nicollet Mall, Minneapolis For more information and to RSVP: → click here ←.

Improper rollback

Hi Ringback. Why are you rolling back my edits? For example here [1]? Being a Michelin starred chef is a distinction, and reason that established significance. The original edits were made by a now blocked user. See WP:ANI#User:Fronticla. If you have a valid reason for your edits, please explain in the edit summary, but you are not allowed to use rollback because you disagree with the content. - MrX 🖋 18:31, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

​Hi,

Blocked or no, the editor's rationale for the previous edits is valid (WP:NPOV and WP:PEACOCK). It's a matter of how the information is presented. A phrase like "Eisner-nominated" has a promotional tone, whereas describing the circumstances of a nomination does not. Whether this information belongs in the lede depends on WP:WEIGHT. —Ringbang (talk) 18:40, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

I disagree, and so do at least a half a dozen other editors. For example, being a Michelin starred chef is about the significant achievement a chef can have, so of course it belongs in the lead. Awards are routinely included in the leads of biographies as well. Some of the others may exist in a gray area, and I won't contest those. But you cannot use rollback in a content dispute. If you do, you will likely have the bit taken away from you.- MrX 🖋 18:44, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

​I agree that information about awards frequently belongs in the lede, and certainly Michelin stars should be mentioned there. Remember that the issue is tone, not content. Have another look at Le Bernardin and I think you'll see what I mean. —Ringbang (talk) 19:28, 21 June 2018 (UTC)