User talk:RHaworth/2019 Sep 07

Emotional Speech Blocks Deletion Syndrome

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OS tool thingamabob

Dudley Miles, GirthSummit, Keith D, Op47, hike395 and anyone else who is interested: I have now done something - see Template talk:OS coord#Getting back up 2019. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:02, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Just checked the numbers at (List of Category A listed buildings in Moray) and they're working again - all appears to be well. :) GirthSummit _(blether) 16:35, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

• But they have not done it by themselves! You should thank hike395. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:31, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Page Deletion on grounds of advertisement

My page for Evan Nagao (World YoYo Champion) was deleted. I quoted the descriptions from a site called yoyoexpert because I was unaware it constituted an advertisement as I put it in a quote. Can I recover my draft and change it for resubmission? I do not work for Yoyoexpert (which I quoted) or Yoyofactory (the subject's employer). This was my first experience writing an article on Wikipedia, and if there are any other reasons for the deletion, please let me know so I do not make the same mistake again in the future. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrblackhole (talk • contribs) 23:25, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Laundering promotion with quotes doesn't make it any less promotional. Acroterion (talk) 23:44, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

I understand, which is why I, if I am able to recover the draft, will delete the quotes and only put specs. If that is considered promotion as well, I could also just state the models that the player has made with the company? — Mrblackhole (talk) 00:02, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Or whoever has the ability to recover the document can just give me the draft without that section (Signature Yo-Yos) at all, and I can rewrite it. — Mrblackhole (talk) 01:28, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Ignore this request, recreated draft without section on “signature yoyos” If you can provide it, a little advice on how to write about commercial products without being promotional would be helpful. — Mrblackhole (talk) 04:14, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

• Only write about commercial products of unquestionable notability. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:20, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

prememptive protection

yes, of course we have -- mself as well, I think -- that was just my way of wording things to gather support. And I know I've promised before, but I've a set a date of labor day (US) for a 50% reduction. — DGG ( talk ) 03:41, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

• 50% reduction in what? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:20, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Length of user talk p. DGG ( talk ) 16:24, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

• DGG, 50%! More like 95%! Ie. reduce it to 5% of its current size. I have just archived this page because at 70k bytes, not 700k!, at 70k bytes it was too big. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:38, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Deleted Photo

You deleted two photos that I have permission to upload. Did you read the copyright page on the photos? https://www.hmdb.org/copyright.asp

• I also contacted the owner of the web site to be sure I could unload the photos to Wikipedia.
• Can I use the hmdb.org website photos on Wikipedia?
• His reply:
• "Please proceed to use photographs from our website, with attribution. While we don’t use a Creative Commons license, our “some rights reserved” copyright reserve commercial rights only, so please proceed. https://www.hmdb.org/copyright.asp Attribution for these particular photographs would be “By Dean Whittle via HMdb.org” or similar. J. J. Prats, Editor of www.hmdb.org"

Was my copyright upload pick wrong? If yes what? It was delelted so quickly, I did not have a chance to reply. Thank you Telecine Guy (talk) 21:53, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Correction: I ask for clarity from the Web site manager. Here is his reply: "just name of photographer, comma, HMdb.org is all you’ll need for photographs. For the pages themselves, HMdb.org. J. J. Prats, Editor of www.hmdb.org" — Telecine Guy (talk) 00:13, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

• Learn to put your message in the right place on this page, to provide links when you talk about stuff - thus: file:SavannahMemorialParksign.jpg and file:HeritageHouse Compton CA.jpg and above all stop uploading free images here. The proper place for them is the Commons. In case you did not know there are hundreds of Wikipedias in other languages that might like to use your uploads.

As to these images, the licence terms you have quoted do seem to be invoking the non-commercial (NC) clause which is not allowed here. So the easiest thing is for the source site to explicitly release these images under a {{GFDL}} or {{cc-by-sa-4.0}} or both or less stringent licence and then you can safely upload them to the Commons. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:38, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Deleted User Page

I noticed you deleted User:Bananarama2019. I have noticed this editors peculiar editing habits and they seem similar to sock account User:Bebo71/User:Beroe 2019. I didn't feel confident enough that they are related to go to SPI but I thought I would mention it to you if you come across any more situations from this account. Equineducklings (talk) 22:06, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

• Get the name right! On a quick inspection I would say that Bananarama 2019 probably is the same person as the other two but that they are a reformed character (it does happen sometimes). So any punitive action against Bananarama 2019 should be based solely on their edits under that user name. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:38, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Apologies Equineducklings (talk) 15:34, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Super Why!

Hello, RHaworth, Did you intend to delete this talk page, too, or are the talk pages of deleted articles sometimes retained? I was just going through some of the many, MANY redirects to this article and found one leading the article talk page. Thanks! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:55, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

• Yes, I should have deleted it. I was distracted because it had taken three attempts to do the deletion (time-outs while retrieving all the revisions) and I was boggling at the fact that it had 3000 edits. And we both omitted to delete Talk:SUPER WHY!! — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:13, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. I have seen some talk pages retained in Wikipedia-space when someone wanted to preserve a discussion and was unsure about all article talk pages. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:05, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Army Reserve Component Achievement Medal

Dear highly likely civilian who has never served in the US military and or zero military combat experience. All U.S. military medals deserve individual pages not to mention this page is misspelled incorrectly anyway. Per US Army regulation it's Army Reserve Components Achievement Medal. Please only edit topics you actually know about. — Ron John (talk) 21:39, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

• Noted. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:13, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Shefali Rana

Hi RHaworth. Yesterday you dealt with the article Shefali Rana which you speedily deleted 5 times, and eventually blocked from recreation. Today the article has been recreated as Shefali rana and although another speedy nomination was rejected, it still seems at best borderline notability. If you believe the latest incarnation should be kept, could you unlock Shefali Rana, so I can move the new version there? Thanks, Railfan23 (talk) 05:51, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

• Let us give her an AfD discussion. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:13, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Aurangzeb

Hi...There are some strange edits on Aurangzeb. Can you help? Whispyhistory (talk) 14:03, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

• Fixed. We had tempestuous times in England about the same time as Aurangzeb such as the execution of a monarch and Quakers seeing a new light but I am sure the relevant articles here do not attract such edit warring. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:01, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Gem of an article

Hi Mister Haworth, I'm starting to rewrite my text maybe you have some advice to give me about the content ? My goal is to share my studies results and knowledges with the community. Thank you in advance -- SP&co-evolution (talk) 14:05, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

• If by "studies" you mean promoting some Swiss company - forget it. If you have knowledge of notable subjects, please write about them. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:01, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Baby fighting

Recently deleted "The great baby kicking competition" or whatever nonsense name I called it. Hello. Thank you for deleting my fake article. I didn't think you'd be quite as fast as you where though so the intended reader missed the window to read it. I was wondering if you could send me the article text as I never took a copy (because it was only for laughs). The only link I have is to Draft:The Great Baby Kicking Competition of 1904. I hope I didn't worsen your day any with my meaningless little stunt. And sorry for using a noobish link format. Regards //M — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedaddestdad (talk • contribs) 23:21, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

• I hate uncaptioned images - this image is fascinating but without details it is useless. So tell me where it is, preferably with a map link like this: 59.92853°N 10.69634°E / 59.92853; 10.69634, what it is and the relevance of 1904 in your title since it was probably not erected until twenty years after that year. Then I will send you your text. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:01, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
• "Worsten my day". On the contrary it spurred me into an enjoyable but fruitless hunt to find the location of the statue. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:13, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Deleted "Eric Solis"

Hi. I've read Section G11 and want to dispute your reason for deleting the page I created about Eric Solis. As stated in G11, "If a subject is notable and the content could plausibly be replaced with text written from a neutral point of view, this is preferable to deletion." The content here is completely neutral and does not contain promotional language. If you disagree, please provide an example of the promotional language. The subject is notable, with multiple patents and citations from well-regarded media outlets. Please provide further evidence to support your claim that this subject should be the subject of speedy deletion. You seem to have an unusual preference for deleting pages. — GhostDust (talk) 05:54, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

• Learn to provide links. Restored. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:01, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Deletion: Christian Life College

Hello RHaworth, I'm messaging to contest your deletion of Christian Life College. Unless I'm mistaken, it is an educational institution and is exempt from criteria A7 (see: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Schools/Criteria for Speedy Deletion A7). — Joshuaabrego831 (talk) 14:16, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

There is also discussion on my talk page here, as I tagged the article for speedy deletion. — Dorsetonian (talk) 17:13, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

• You have your answer at draft:Christian Life College. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:31, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Deleting Two Articles

Recently you have deleted two stub article of mine. But according to Wikipedia's notability guideline elected members of provincial assembly and ministers of provincial government are notable .-- S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 20:31, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Another editor has raised a discussion on AN about 2 CSD decisions. — Nosebagbear (talk) 21:03, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

• Discussed at inordinate length here. Nazmus, now pull your finger out and turn them into proper articles. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:31, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Hendrick Goltzius

RHaworth moved page Hendrik Goltzius to Hendrick Goltzius. There should have been a WP:RM on this - why wasn't there? — Johnbod (talk) 22:11, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

• Learn to provide a link whenever you talk about a page. Where is it written that every move requires an RM discussion? The addition of c to the guy's name was done with this edit. An hour later you edited the article and, apparently, agreed with the change. So why is it that in the last four years you have not taken steps to have the article moved? Hendrik Goltzius is currently a redirect with no previous edit history. If I understand the rules correctly, you would be able to move the article back and then Pichpich can go to all the trouble of raising a move request. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:31, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

I'm sure I hadn't noticed four years ago. This is a very poor excuse indeed. There should certainly have been an WP:RM (and that's where it is written), and of course Pichpich should not have moved it, especially in that sloppy way - a sloppiness repeated by you when you didn't add the alternative to the lead! Both names are very common, but in the absence of a discussion & analysis I suspect I might support "ick". But this is an important article & should not be moved on a whim. Johnbod (talk) 12:15, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

• Perhaps you had better review and revert the other moves I have done without any RM - seventy or so in the last month alone. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:39, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Is that boasting? I haven't reverted you yet at all, & often I wouldn't be able to. It would be much less trouble to seek a topic ban. It would be unwise to assume that couldn't be got. Alternatively you could just follow the rules. — Johnbod (talk) 18:17, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Cheng Hsin

Dear Mr RHaworth, Why did you delete the Cheng Hsin page from Wikipedia? I would like to re-establish it and would like some help. Regards, Brendan Lea 209.165.136.34 (talk) 08:49, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

• Count yourself lucky that I am talking to an IP address who could not provide a link. For the deletion reason read this. Text emailed. If you wish to try again, I recommend you to do so via AfC. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:31, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

What the hell?

This looks like an incredibly inappropriate question to ask of anyone. Is there something I'm missing? — Reaper Eternal (talk) 15:41, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

A third voice saying very strongly that this is way inappropriate. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:42, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

• I'm not sure what prompted it but I thought it was a joke, for what it's worth. Thanks for looking out though. — Praxidicae (talk) 16:00, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

• Noted. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:39, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Dr John Mew

Dear Roger, Thank you for your feedback regarding my first attempt at a new page on wikipedia. The page is Draft:John_Mew. The reason you gave for deletion is advertising or promotion. I would have preferred it if you had given me feedback on which bit you think was advertising or promotion, so that I could edit it, rather than deleting the whole page. I hoped I had got the right balance. If it was the footnote for the IAFGG (international association of facial growth guidance), I included it to evidence that Orthotropics is practiced worldwide and because the IAFGG is a not-for-profit organisation, so I thought it would not be regarded as advertising or promotion. It is hard to know where the line is between evidence and advertising and I am happy to change the offending passage if you can tell me where it is. I would appreciate your help in learning how to do this correctly. — Acirsa (talk) 08:45, 22 August 2019 (UTC).

• I see that you have re-submitted. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:39, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Deleyaman

Dear RHaworth, could you please provide me with the deleted material of Deleyaman, so I can work on it? Thanks. -- HovhannesKarapetyan (talk) 11:19, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

• You provided a link here. Why could you not do so on this page as well? Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:33, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Deleted Article:3Forge

Do you have any advice so I can resolve the issues for the article 3Forge? Thanks — CroutonWoof (talk) 15:50, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

• The best advice I can give, and it will save you wasting your time if you follow it, is: wait for somebody with no CoI to write about your company. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:33, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Do you recommend if I requested an article? — CroutonWoof (talk) 21:19, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

• There is nothing lost if you do so. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:35, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Eric Solis Speed Delete

Hello RHaworth,

With all sincerity your deletions of my page says more about you than having any reduction of the impact I have had on the fintech, the underbanked/unbanked and financial inclusion in the US and around the world. Fact is, I can do without a Wiki page just fine. But if you are recklessly deleting pages without proper due diligence, then you put the entire ecosystem at risk. My request is not for a restoration of my page, but that you think long and hard about your actions and the long term implications your behavior will have on society if social platforms like Wikipedia are to survive into the future. Eric Solis — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:387:6:807:0:0:0:2B (talk) 02:06, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

• But Wikipedia is not a social platform. In any case instead of your <pre> preaching, why don't you actually read the replies left for you. At Deleted "Eric Solis" above do you see the word "restored". In this undeletion request do you see the words "now done". — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:59, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Page deleted , would like clarification

i recently found out my page was deleted . I would like to know why and how can i make it wiki friendly. — Nowasteofjunk516 (talk) 16:06, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

• I think that any attempt to make it wiki friendly would be a waste of your time: it is highly unlikely to be accepted whatever you do to it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:59, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

HUMN 4472

My page T. Smith HUMN 4472 Journal was deleted. This is for educational use and for a grade please unblock. — Blusolace (talk) 22:17, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

• New messages go at the bottom of this page and not in a mono-spaced font. I have restored all of your your edits which were deleted. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 01:11, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Regarding my wiki page shefali rana

I added all the references from reliable sources.. times of india and bombay times..Now my article can contribute to wikipedia or not..Please tell which refrences I should add to save my article..And when this discussion will closed..And when I can remove that afd message. — Khusin26 (talk) 19:07, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Khusin26, it would behoove you to not think of your contributions as "yours". As soon as you press the "publish changes" button, what you contribute here ceases to be yours. Just a suggestion. John from Idegon (talk) 19:17, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

• There is no point in restoring shefali rana - it consisted of a few very short attempts at creating the Shefali Rana article. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:17, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Don't you think that all the references are from reliable sources and shefali rana is a notable actress. — Khusin26 (talk) 11:03, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Specially I added 3 or 4 articles from Bombay Times and Times of India. — Khusin26 (talk) 11:03, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Please tell what references I should add to save the article.i have all the information about her but know hot to add media files. — Please help Khusin26 (talk) 14:08, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

But don't know how to add. — Khusin26 (talk) 14:09, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

• The AfD discussion is due to be closed in the next day or so. I see that you have found out how to add an image. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:03, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Buchepalli Siva Prasad Reddy

Hi, Buchepalli Siva Prasad Reddy, this link is what I am referring to ? can I know what sentences allowed you to think as a fan based page. Since this is my first article on the wikipage, I am happy to correct and take your advises in the next articles Can you help me in publishing the current article with necessary correction. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VenkatChinnapureddy (talk • contribs) 12:00, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

• I recently got into serious trouble for deleting two articles (both much shorter than this one) about members of a vidhan sabha so I had better restore this one speedily. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:03, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Nathaniel Phillips

Why was Draft:Nathaniel Phillips deleted? The deletion was logged as G7, but the G7 tag was added by User:REDMAN 2019, who is not the author of the article. Redman, why did you place that G7 tag? And, RHaworth, as noted elsewhere, you need to be more careful when acting on CSD tags placed by other editors to verify that they were tagged correctly. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:11, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

• As you can see my account was created recently. When the draft was created the author's account WAS my account I have since created my own account. but the draft still said that my original username was the author. I deleted the draft when I discovered that a page already existed that covered the topic. and deleted the draft. -- REDMAN 2019 (talk) 16:10, 26 August 2019 (GMT)

OK, fair enough. Thanks for the explanation. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:37, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

User:FHR Anlagenbau GmbH/sandbox

Hi there, I uploaded a page user:FHR Anlagenbau GmbH/sandbox two days ago but it was immediately deleted apparently on the basis of promotion. Appreciate if you could let me have specifics on it. I don't believe talking about the name of a company and where it's based is considered as promotional materials. I'd change the items which are against Wikipedia's policy if you could specifically point them out. I can show you many other similar pages for other companies which have been approved. Cheers, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Masihengineer (talk • contribs) 12:15, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

• The main promotional thing was your user name! Since you had a sandbox under your new name, I have allowed you to keep it. Note that you are liable to find yourself blocked again if you do not make proper CoI and paid editing declarations. You may have to settle for one section in the Centrotherm Photovoltaics article with a redirect at FHR Anlagenbau GmbH. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:21, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

AgroFresh

Hi - Can you explain your deletion of the AgroFresh page draft I created? Was there something in particular that seemed like it infringed on copyright? Was that the only concern? Thanks in advance for the explanation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlueStar35 (talk • contribs) 14:17, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

• Kindly have the decency to wait until someone who a) has no CoI and b) knows what an article here should look like, thinks your company is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:21, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Re: Draft:VELTRA

Thank you for your feedback DGG and RHaworth on 15 August 2019. I agree with your point, but smaller organizations and their products can be notable as par stated in WP:NCORP. About their notability, there are few articles (1, 2, 3) that this firm is featured. In my view these are significant, independent, reliable and secondary. Do you agree it deserves to be notable? Thanks, -- VT TMTMR (talk) 08:53, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

• I still agree with DGG that the company is not notable. The best I can suggest is that you follow this advice and find an established editor to help you. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:21, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

TNN24

Oops, sorry for the edit conflict. And thanks for clearing up the mess. I think TNN (Thailand) is probably the best title now, given the channel's recent rebranding, and the fact that their website and social media accounts all use "tnnthailand". -- Paul_012 (talk) 15:00, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Brain Storm Optimization

Hello. I was about to edit Brain Storm Optimization but I see that you are working on it. I'm not a subject expert but one option is to replace it by a redirect to Brain storm optimization algorithm. — Certes (talk) 16:04, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

• There is no need for anything at Brain Storm Optimization because there is a redirect at brain storm optimization. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:13, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Danish sheikh

Hello. Salted Danish Sheikh has just been re-created at Danish sheikh. Is it substantially different from all the rest of them? Thanks. Tracy Von Doom (talk) 16:07, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

• Same spam. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:13, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Stereophonic Space Sound Unlimited

Howdy, RHaworth. You posted the notice for speedy deletion on Stereophonic Space Sound Unlimited page and deleted it shortly after posting the notice. I couldn't discuss the merits of this deletion as it was quite late for me when you posted and quickly deleted it. Also, I now cannot reference the original article to properly judge the merits of the deletion. Can you share your rationale for speedy deletion in this case? Thanks. NightMonkey (talk) 17:03, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

• No. Read your messages. Premeditated Chaos applied the speedy tag. I just did the deletion. After thirteen years it is still an orphan. The three external links that you added are now all broken. No-one else has seen fit to add evidence of notabilty. You can try at draft:Stereophonic Space Sound Unlimited. When you think it is ready hit the "submit" button. Do not move it back yourself. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:13, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Victorious Sect

Now deleted article Victorious Sect. Here's what some my comments would have been at the now redundant WP:AFD I might have started. There appears that there is no evidence that a group of this or a similar name has ever existed. The sources cited here:

• https://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2010/06/al_qaeda_commander_k.php
• http://occident2.blogspot.com/2010/05/turkish-jihadi-takfiri-group-taifatel.html

are both blogs and are prima facie not reliable sources, unless otherwise shown to be.

• Human Rights Watch reported that the purported organization was used as excuse to detain persons who" "confessed" to criminal acts they had not committed.

Ink, Blink and Mustard rudely called Custard the Dragon "Percival". Similarly, in further communications I will rudely call you "Rita". -- Shirt58 (talk) 11:37, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Swarup Rani Nehru

HI...I reverted a very nasty edit on Swarup Rani Nehru. Can you have a look and do whatever you think correct to the editor that did that, please. — Whispyhistory (talk) 18:17, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

• Dealt with by someone else. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:50, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for looking...that was a nightmare provoking edit. How can some people do things like that? Whispyhistory (talk) 16:59, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

• I have been spared the sight. The image had been deleted from Commons by the time I got there and i don't have admin rights there. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:28, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Possible socking

Earlier, you deleted User talk:Abnernogah92. Is the content of User talk:Situspoker1231 virtually identical? I erased someone's talk page earlier and warned them but can't remember if it was Abnernogah92 or not. — Home Lander (talk) 21:49, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

• Home Lander, I can forgive you forgetting what you had done half an hour earlier - I have an active forgetting mechanism for the rubbish I look at. But I cannot forgive your apparent inability to look at your own contributions history. In this report if you had looked at it at the time you left your message, User talk:Dewapoker12309 would have stood out a mile because of the (-19.929) beside it. That number has gone now because I deleted the offending edit at the same time as I blocked that account and Situspoker1231. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:50, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Page about Leon Zimmermann

Why did you delete the draft page about Leon Zimmermann? It's not promotional. — Biographitor (talk) 08:10, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

• Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks you are notable and writes about you here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:50, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

I'm afraid I do not understand: Why should some write about me here? — Biographitor (talk) 18:57, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

• I read your message as "I am not notable enough to qualify for a Wikipedia article". To which I reply: in that case why did you submit your autobiography? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:12, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

What's wrong with you? Of course I'm not notable for a Wikipedia article, but that's not the point. I'm not Leon Zimmermann, so my article about him is not an autobiography. Why do you think so? — Biographitor (talk) 11:10, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

• Sorry, when I see a spammy bio from an editor with no previous contributions I tend to assume it is an autobio. So, revised message: I suggest you follow this advice and find an established editor to help you. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:04, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Why did you delete me page?

Um sure as to why you deleted my Wikipedia sandbox article. Please inform me of the cause of deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AfricanGucci2 (talk • contribs) 10:27, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

• Please keep your fantasies on your own website. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:50, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Access to deleted article

Hi, I don't know if you can help me, but I would like access to an article that was recently deleted. The article was deleted yesterday, for User:DarrynMelerine/sandbox. I am writing the article for my client, my name is Jon. Thank you, Jon — Preceding unsigned comment added by DarrynMelerine (talk • contribs) 17:13, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

• Please read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:28, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

SECC v. EBASCO

re: deleted SECC v EBASCO article deleted when still under protest and talk at Teahouse. Draft:Securities and Exchange Commission v. Electric Bond and Share company was currently in discussion at the teahouse with editors helping me sort out how to deal with this. I ran into a medical emergency as I'm a caregiver and needed to deal with 3 hours of real world work.

As soon as I saw the warning. I put a protest in. yet the piece is now deleted! Even though I even removed the segment in alarm that it might be removed. So the segment that was in real dispute with at least one editor agreeing with me that the materail was actually a federal government document - a supreme court case ruling - I agreed to delete that segment and it was already gone when you deleted the entire piece.

I had already put many hours of work in this and was actively attempting to get help to fix the article up to the real protest against the deletion warning! How is it that my protest is now gone with all that work? There is something very wrong about how this has happened. Please explain how this could happen when I did what the warning said about filing a protest as well as removing the material that was under dispute? — Energynet (talk) 08:12, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

• You are hopelessly long-winded: you give me 1300 bytes above but you cannot provide a link to the article nor to a possible .gov source for your text. But the basic problem is that reproducing the court's judgement does not make a Wikipedia article. We need an article about that judgement, not the text itself - to that you provide a link. Text emailed. Go to DRV if you are not satisfied. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:13, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

I was and still am going through a medical emergency in the real world that I must attend to! I had deleted the section you based your deletion on, prior to its deletion! I thought I had filed a protest on the deletion prior to deletion but being new to this am not sure if I did it properly. And I had been seeking help over this at the teahouse where I was receiving different positions.

You yourself merely had to open up the disputed link to see that it was a U.S. Court decision and that there did not appear to be a copyright issue. Apologies but the link to the piece was what you deleted I posted the title because I was already up 2 hours past my bedtime terrified that I'd just lost my entire friday evening and many additional hours in the past week. I'm a human being and was nearly at tears as well as anger when I thought I was making every attempt to follow the suggestions at the teahouse! — Energynet (talk) 15:51, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

• In the time it took you to write the above message you could have re-instated the page and made the first of the extensive changes that it needs. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:12, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Deletion review

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Draft:Securities and Exchange Commission v. Electric Bond and Share company. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:10, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion

Hello RH - you often speedy delete pages I nominate: thank you. I'd appreciate your advice at Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Mass nomination. — Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:18, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Barnea & Co

I wonder if you might be kind enough to tell me why you deleted the following Wikipedia pages please? Micky Barnea and Barnea & Co. We believe they are valid but want to make sure they're appropriate reflections of fact (as well as live). Understanding what the problem was, before rewriting them, would be a great help. I hope I've posted the message correctly and apologise, in advance, if I've got anything wrong. With thanks, Hlahammond (talk) 11:10, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

• Your message was correct enough - at least you provided wikilinks. Who are the "we" in whose name you are writing - corporate accounts are not allowed. You could also include Michael Barnea. I fact I only deleted Barnea & Co. For deletion reasons, please read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:47, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Protection

Hi RHaworth, Hope all is well,
I don't usually ask for pages to be create-protected so prematurely however given Draft:Yash Gawli has repeatedly been recreated and deleted I was wondering if you could protect Draft:Yash gawli too please?
Have a great day, Thanks, – Dave | Davey2010^Talk 13:26, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Brilliant many thanks, – Dave | Davey2010^Talk 13:38, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

• Dave, of the multiple titles he has published at, he has never actually tried Yash Gawli! But I have protected that pre-emptively. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:47, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Wow I am surprised, I just assumed he had used drafts only, That being said he did try Yash gawli back in 2017 which was protected too. Anyway many thanks for protecting that one too much appreciated :), Thanks, –Dave | Davey2010^Talk 12:22, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

User:Arjoccolenty/fire alarms

Can I have at least this document back? I promise I won't recreate it on Wikipedia. — Arjoccolenty (talk) 01:03, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

• Done. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:47, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Nneoma123

Hi! I created a page Latiesha Brown but I failed to disclose that it was paid for and that I have no relationship with the bearer. Do note that it was not intended for unambiguous promotion. I would like to recreate the page and do everything right this time, please note. — Nneoma123 (talk) 07:53, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

• Noted. We do not have "passionate" shouters here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:47, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Assistance with deleted project page

Greetings. I'm afraid I've made a bit of a mess merging the Kawartha Lakes task force into WP:WikiProject Ontario. Based on this discussion, the main project (task force) page was to be kept for archival purposes. Could you please restore the contents of Wikipedia:WikiProject Ontario/Kawartha Lakes/Archive to the name of Wikipedia:WikiProject Ontario/Kawartha Lakes? That's where it should've been moved in the first place. Sorry for the trouble. BLAIXX 15:04, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

• Actioned. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:53, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

FlopFlip

RHaworth Could you please email me the text of the article that you had deleted. I made a article just for a laugh and it got deleted by you and I would like to ask if you could please email me the text for it I'll put the link to the article below. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:BigDaddyFlipFlop — Preceding unsigned comment added by Januzs Zukowski (talk • contribs) 15:59, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

• Draft:BigDaddyFlipFlop emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:53, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Danish Operations Research Association

Hi RHaworth, I recently joined the board of an association that some time ago tried to add a Wikipedia entry for our own association. However as I can see from the below link, the page was taken down. Draft:Danish Operations Research Association. I don't understand as to why this is. We are not trying to promote our organization, we simply tried to add a neutral Wiki page which resembled our sister association from our neighbouring country. Their Wikipedia link is here: Swedish Operations Research Association.

Would it be possible to re-open this page somehow? I would also like to improve the entry by adding more links to other Wiki articles and integrate it better into the Encyclopedia. Hope to hear from you soon. // Akrogjet (talk) 20:24, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

• Suggestions: find an established Wikipedian to help you or make a request on the Danish Wikipedians' notice board. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:53, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

You deleted my page

Hello! You deleted my page - User:Dmitry Tolkunoff/sandbox. Want to let you know that I am new on wiki and maybe my article didn't fit perfectly into wiki's standards. However it was not the final version of the article and I was going to upgrade it. I will explore more deeply wiki's rules and standards and will be really cool if next time you will not delete in an express way like you did it and will give me just recommendation what have to be changed in the article in your opinion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmitry Tolkunoff (talk • contribs) 18:28, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

• The main thing to be changed is the author. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your company is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:05, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

User talk:106.205.152.95

Hello RHaworth, is there a particular reason you extended confirmed protected User talk:106.205.152.95 instead of using autoconfirmed protection? The disruption solely came from IPs I believe. --MrClog (talk) 18:39, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

• No special reason. If an autoconfirmed person wants to edit it, they can come here and make a request and I will probably agree. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:05, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Keemstar, et al

Can you please explain why you've applied extended confirmation protection to this page as well as the associated redirects? You've left no rationale. — Buffs (talk) 22:39, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

• Your question should have been "why did you allow the creation of the article in the face of this AfD decision?". At talk:Keemstar, which at the time was in draftspace, it was suggested "naturally it would have to have semi-protection or extended-confirmed protection" and given the troubled histories of all three titles: Keemstar, DramaAlert and Daniel Keem, I fully agreed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:05, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

No, I meant what I said. This issue is not why you did it, per se, but why you didn't explain it in your rationale (literally leaving it blank). — Buffs (talk) 15:19, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

• Very sorry, I usually do provide a word or two of explanation when I protect a page. I have no idea why I omitted to do so in these three cases. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:04, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Sabina Knight

Hello! I am writing to ask for your help. I see that you deleted the page I submitted on Sabina Knight because of copyright infringement, but I thought I cited the sources properly. Would you be able to explain to me how to fix the submission so that it will be approved? I am a first-time Wikipedia contributor and thought I had followed the instructions, but clearly I am making major mistakes. I've read through the instructions several times and still don't see what I'm doing wrong. Thanks very much, Sarah Gilleman — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C64:7B7F:E8B4:DDE4:C23C:979B:443B (talk) 00:01, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

• Count yourself lucky that I am talking to an IP address. Do you actually understand the difference between citing, ie. providing a link and wholesale copying? Try re-writing entirely in your own words. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:05, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

  Wow... don't bite the noobs. Perhaps a refresher? "Administrators are expected to respond promptly and civilly to queries about their Wikipedia-related conduct and administrative actions and to justify them when needed." Cmon. You're an admin. Buffs (talk) 15:22, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Hear hear, well said Buffs. Captainllama (talk) 23:35, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

• @Buffs and Captainllama: please help me learn civility - please provide a revised wording of my message to Sarah which provides the same content but more politely stated. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:04, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

How about the same thing without the condescending remarks about citations or where you apparently consider IP requests beneath your dignity to respond to?

Count yourself lucky that I am talking to an IP address. Do you actually understand the difference between citing, ie. providing a link and wholesale copying? If not, let me know and we can talk about it. Try Any such issues could be resolved by re-writing this entirely in your own words. See WP:SUMMARY, WP:CITE, WP:COI, and WP:NPS for further guidance.

This would be immensely better. You are unnecessarily coming across WAY more hostile than is necessary. I'm not suggesting that this IP's actions are correct (near as I can tell, they are 100% wrong). But as an admin, you should be much nicer about letting them know about their edits and how they can improve them. Your job as an admin isn't just technical deletions or protections, but explaining them in a manner that is appropriate for a new user. While the IP is reading those linked articles, perhaps you could browse WP:AGF, WP:ADMINACCT, and especially WP:BITE:

"If you feel that you must say something to a newcomer about a mistake, please do so in a constructive and respectful manner. Begin by introducing yourself with a greeting on the user's talk page to let them know that they are welcomed here, and present your corrections calmly and as a peer. If possible, point out something they've done correctly or especially well."

Buffs (talk) 16:52, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

chiiz.com

hi RHaworth, I see that you deleted a Chiiz.com that I created citing as promotion, as reason, request you to reconsider it a this is purely informational page on a topic which is a hobby for many, photography. request you to reconsider it. — (talk) Joydeep ghosh (talk) 18:58, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

• My simple-minded test suggests that you possibly do not have a CoI so feel free to re-submit via AfC with better references and, above all, links to some of the photographs created by users of this ecosystem. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:29, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

deleted page Draft:Dodging Bullets

It would have been more pleasant to edit the article or let the Wikishere know your specific reason for deleting a draft, which was still being editing. Draft:Dodging Bullets. You pointed out (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of https://dodgingbullets.org/overview-of-the-documentary-film-dodging-bullets/) Of which there was no plagiarism or copyright infringement. I was correct stating the facts of an important documentary film. Ro — Preceding unsigned comment added by F3r5tfg6743 (talk • contribs) 21:09, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Could you please reinstate this so it can be edited? — Ro F3r5tfg6743 (talk) 16:12, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

• It was an unambiguous copyvio. Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:29, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Optical immunoassay

You deleted Draft:Optical immunoassay after AngusWOOF tagged it for WP:G12. As far as I can tell, there was a single sentence that was copied, and that could have easily been fixed by deleting that sentence. I'm not saying it was a good article (far from it), but I don't think it was G12 eligible. Could you take another look at that? Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:14, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

RoySmith, the rest of the article needed to be fundamentally rewritten anyway to be more of a Wikipedia article rather than snippets of the research paper. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:21, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

That may well be true, but that's not a WP:CSD, and certainly not WP:G12. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:28, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Those sentences appear to be copied out of the papers themselves though, including references to Figures and other references. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:34, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Can you be more specific? The G12 tag mentioned https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC263574/. Looking at the full text of that paper, I'm just not seeing what was copied. Unfortunately, earwig doesn't work against deleted pages, so I've just been searching for phrases that are duplicated in either direction, and not finding any. I also tried a few likely-sounding phrases from the deleted draft and googled them. Again, no joy. If you know of where this was copied from, let me know where I can find it. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:43, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

RoySmith, are you wanting to revive the article so you can rewrite it? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 13:49, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

No, I'm wanting for RHaworth to reverse his deletion because it's an invalid WP:G12. If you can show me what it's a copyvio of, I'm content with that. But, lacking that, neither of, "this looks like it's probably a copyvio of some paper that I can't specifically identify", nor, "this is a really badly written draft" are valid WP:CSD. I am assuming that this was just an innocent mistake and once RHaworth reads this thread, he'll correct the error on his own. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:06, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

BTW, I tried searching in JSTOR for a random sentence, Colour changes were observed after the final washing and drying either by the naked eye or with a magnifier under a white light source, from the draft. I came up with two hits, neither of which were remotely the source of this draft's text. One possibility I can think of is that this is an early draft of a paper which has either not yet been submitted, or was rejected. In either case, that would explain the references to figure numbers, but there's no copyright issue since it was never published. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:28, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

• Restored. I will stand back and let others fight over it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:29, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:39, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

User page deleted?

Hello, just found out that my first article and page were tagged for misuse of Wikipedia. I'm trying to get help on the article I wrote, but may you please let me know how I can reinstate my user page? — SPMCC88 (talk) 22:16, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

• The content of your user page was hidden by a mysterious, undocumented process which means that even admins cannot see the deleted content. We are not even allowed to know who did the hiding. I suggest make a complaint at the bureaucrats' noticeboard. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:04, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Help with deleted article

Hi, you recently deleted an article for me, which I believe was because of a username conflict. I was able to change my username. I also saw a note that read "(G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion)". Can I ask if the G11 was based solely on my username conflict or if the article itself should be revised?

Here is the original link to where you deleted it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:DarrynMelerine/sandbox&action=edit&redlink=1

Thank you Thecr8tve (talk) 17:34, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Artesia

Would you be so kind as to explain why you applied ECP here? Given that there was no prior protection on the page, the spam is coming from a single user, and the page has less than 50 edits in the past 14 years, "Spam" seems to be a woefully inadequate explanation and doesn't meet Wikipedia:Protection_policy#Extended_confirmed_protection the criteria for the application of ECP. Buffs (talk) 19:40, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

WP:AN notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved.

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Zeeyarah

Hello,

Hope you are doing fine. i wanted to know the reason for deleting my article. you put the objection which is G4 which i this not applicable on my article. you said that i am writing the same material which i have wrote before but this time i didn't write the same. and i am writing about the company then how can i change the facts. i am not writing anything wrong. everything in my article is genuine and correct. there is a website of company in my article you can visit it and check the status of company or you cab also find it on google. so please review my article one again and approve it and publish it. i will be very thank full to you.