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Changing redirects

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Please do not change valid redirects so that they direct viewers to a blank page. This is not an improvement. Do not change a redirect before an article is written. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:22, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Sneng

I wanted to thank you for working on the article sneng and the templates. I did have one concern; you put the end blown sneng as end blown: brass (like a trumpet). I thought it was an end-blown reed instrument, a hornpipe. At any rate, thank you for your work! Jacqke (talk) 12:42, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

According to Traditional Musical Instruments of Cambodia, there's no mouthpiece on the end-blown sneng. Therefore it is a blowing horn just like shofar. The pictures and videos of the end-blown one also show no mouthpiece.--Neux-Neux (talk) 13:16, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

You are right, thank you for fixing it. I re-read Traditional Musical Instruments of Cambodia and realized I had misunderstood what I read. Jacqke (talk) 03:43, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

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Identifying Urceolina amazonica and Urceolina × grandiflora

With hindsight, I agree that you were right to change the photos/labels in the gallery I added to Urceolina. However, it is difficult to distinguish Urceolina amazonica and Urceolina × grandiflora from photos. The Pacific Bulb Society, usually reliable in my experience, has some photos under Eucharis. Assuming that this photo from the UC Botanical Garden is correctly identified, I find it hard to distinguish from this one, labelled amazonica. Deciding on the height of the staminal cup from a photo is a problem. Peter coxhead (talk) 17:27, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

It is not a problem at all. The staminal cup is longer than free filaments in U. amazonica but shorter in U. × grandiflora. Of course, this is not always useful for photos because of different shooting angles, but it is still possible to differentiate by estimating the ratio of the staminal cup diameter to the base width of free filaments. The ratio is 8–12 in U. amazonica and 15–25 in U. × grandiflora. In the photo of the plant from the UC Botanical Garden, the ratio is about 9, hence U. amazonica for sure. Neux-Neux (talk) 08:58, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

The shape of the free filaments is also an indicator. The ratio of the length of the free part of the stamen to the width of its base is useful. However, you do need to be careful in photos, because the width and length are differently affected by the angle of view. But I do agree with you in suspecting that the UC Botanical Garden photo is actually U. amazonica. I can't find a single photo online (let alone a copyright-free one) that is clearly identifiable as U. × grandiflora.

There is also a problem with the Flore des Serres et des Jardins de l'Europe illustration, where the filaments are oddly drawn, appearing to be free inside the staminal cup. In the Curtis's Botanical Magazine illustration, the stamens are more convincing. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:31, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

You don't have to estimate it precisely. In the flower on the right side of that photo, the base lines of a free filament at the near side (about 5.5 mm at 200% on my screen) and another at the far side (about 4 mm) as well as the diameter line of the staminal cup between them (about 38 mm) are all parallel to the camera lens, so the ratio must be 7–10. Neux-Neux (talk) 10:05, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

The Flore des Serres et des Jardins de l'Europe illustration is actually accurate. Those green lines below the staminal cup are filamental traces instead of true filaments. In Eucharts subg. Heterocharis, filamental traces are marked with green colour. The only photos of living plants of U. × grandiflora that I can find are from Meerow's article (doi:10.2307/2399347, p. 205), in which you can also see the clearly defined filamental traces. Neux-Neux (talk) 11:06, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

If you look carefully, Meerow's photo is different from the illustration. To be clear, it's not the green lines where the base of the stamen is fused inside the flower tube that concern me, it's the part of the stamen fused to the cup above the junction with the tepals. In the photo, in spite of its lack of sharpness as printed, it's clear that the fusion continues at this point, and at the top has a somewhat W shape, with the edge of the cup rising where the free part of the stamen starts. This isn't shown at all in the illustration, and the shading makes it look as though the stamen is free from the point where it isn't coloured green. Your added text in the article is good. Peter coxhead (talk) 06:37, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

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By the way, it's a standard convention here to use   in text when a binomial is abbreviated. It stops there being an awkward line break between the abbreviated genus name and the specific name/epithet. It can be omitted when the abbreviated binomial starts the paragraph, since there won't be a line break here even with a very narrow screen. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:47, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

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Andromonoecy in Cucumis melo

Hello, are you sure there are hermaphrodite flowers on Cucumis melo? I've never seen that, and in any case the addition would need a citation. For now, I will remove it. Best wishes, Sminthopsis84 (talk) 00:33, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Most sweet-fruited cultivars are andromonoecious. Neux-Neux (talk) 01:13, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

pronunciation of tanghulu

Thanks for pointing out the inaccuracy in this pronunciation.

Is it more like "tahn-hulu" (based on what I hear in this YouTube clip)? If not, would you be able to share another reference (YouTube or elsewhere) that has a recorded version that I could learn from?

Thanks in advance! = paul2520 💬 paul2520 💬 15:06, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

@Paul2520 It's like tahng-hulu, but many people would incorrectly pronounce it like "tang-gulu". This Youtuber is Chinese and her pronunciation is spot on, but I understand pronunciation works differently in English. For English speakers, this guy and this girl pronounce it quite accurately. Neux-Neux (talk) 11:34, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for those! How does (link to file page)? = paul2520 💬 20:35, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

@Paul2520 It's quite accurate. Neux-Neux (talk) 05:17, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

"smallage"

I checked this up, it is an archaic name for the vegetable, and principally applies only to one of the cultivar groups (Secalinum Group; see this edit by Peter Coxhead), and not to the wild species that this article is about. It certainly has no place as the primary first name in the article, and very doubtfully in the lead paragraph at all - MPF (talk) 19:28, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Re your edit summary "At least American English dictionaries ... " – have you stopped to consider that American dictionaries might not be very reliable sources in respect of a European plant? Try looking at UK/European sources instead. This old name really does not deserve the prominence you are trying to give it. - MPF (talk) 21:06, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

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