Long Robin 79
Hello! Thanks for your offer of help with this article. My main concern was that it had got very out of date. I have just read your suggestions for editing and they look fine to me. I agree that Dutch Flyer should definitely not be in there. It is a service or a brand but not a TOC. I suggest you just get cracking and I will keep an eye on it and get back to you. -- Alarics (talk) 08:21, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
- Hi, I have spoken to ATOC about who is a TOC as the list provided in the current entry is confusing enough, for a TOC to bid for a franchise they must be a member of ATOC. My understanding is therefore the only list of TOC's needed to be included is that listed in the ATOC website Link, it currently lists 24 with 1 being listed as Open Access. I would also suggest/promote the removal of the Railtours section, these are normally run by travel companies hiring freight trains and as such are not members of ATOC. LongRobin79(talk) 11:00, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, I agree about Railtours - completely out of place. However, I would suggest adding Eurostar to the list even though it is not a normal TOC but a special case like Heathrow Express. -- Alarics (talk) 11:43, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
- Eurostar is was already on the list. It is a TOC that is a member of ATOC and providing a service within the UK.
- I'm still unsure what to do about the changes section, all the information is relevant but is largely un-sourced apart from other links to wiki pages, meaning a great deal of the information is elsewhere and possibly inaccurate.
- future toc's - Greater Anglia appears to be the replacement for National Express East Anglia and is therefore not a new toc but a renamed or taken over toc. It's not yet a member of atoc I suspect that it's just waiting on ATOC pulling the finger out and updating their website. However its parent company Abellio controls "northern rail" which is a ATOC member
- intercity-westcoast however does appear to be a new route which will therefore require a new toc. LongRobin79(talk) 12:34, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, I agree about Railtours - completely out of place. However, I would suggest adding Eurostar to the list even though it is not a normal TOC but a special case like Heathrow Express. -- Alarics (talk) 11:43, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
- Hi, I have spoken to ATOC about who is a TOC as the list provided in the current entry is confusing enough, for a TOC to bid for a franchise they must be a member of ATOC. My understanding is therefore the only list of TOC's needed to be included is that listed in the ATOC website Link, it currently lists 24 with 1 being listed as Open Access. I would also suggest/promote the removal of the Railtours section, these are normally run by travel companies hiring freight trains and as such are not members of ATOC. LongRobin79(talk) 11:00, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
I have deleted the page, since it seems to have been created by a mistake: User:Long Robin 79/sandbox already exists. If you want me to, I'll restore the page and merge their histories at User:Long Robin 79/sandbox. - Mike Rosoft (talk) 18:23, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for that I'm kinda new to this and did not understand fully what Iwas doing though it seems I was creating a page!! LongRobin79(talk) 20:47, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
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ISBNs in Cite book
editHi, re the ref that you added to Class 321 - when using the |isbn= parameter in templates such as {{cite book}}, please use only one ISBN - using two, or adding punctuation such as commas, will cause the link to fail. That is, instead of |isbn=1847286437, 9781847286437 use either |isbn=1847286437 or |isbn=9781847286437 --Redrose64 (talk) 16:59, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, thats the first time I've attempted a ISBN ref so I'm not suprised I made a mistake, but I am annoyed that I made it! Thank You for correcting it Long Robin 79 (talk) 17:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
- The 13-digit version is to be preferred (they always begin with 978). -- Alarics (talk) 20:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, thats the first time I've attempted a ISBN ref so I'm not suprised I made a mistake, but I am annoyed that I made it! Thank You for correcting it Long Robin 79 (talk) 17:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)