User talk:HLHJ/Archives/2021

The end of the Julyan-Kindheart saga?

They're blocked, if you didn't know already (I suppose you do, with the ping from Yngvadottir). It's a bit sad, so many times I thought (wanted to think?) there was progress... But simultaneously I think the blocks are a very positive change, as the only way things can continue is if they actually stop the behaviour, and of course this means we won't have to check up on them anymore. Anyway, if you didn't know, you know now. Kind regards from PJvanMill)talk( 23:21, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the note, PJvanMill; I hadn't actually seen as I hadn't logged in. They may be very young indeed. Perhaps they will come back when they have gained some maturity. At any rate they have not been treated badly. I should probably go through their edits when I have time and be sure anything remaining is sourced... I'll have to look to see if WikiBlame or similar might help. HLHJ (talk) 22:52, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

To I should probably go through their edits when I have time and be sure anything remaining is sourced...: I'm quite certain the only surviving edits are two or three contributions to plot summaries of fictional works and a few "died at age..." remarks in biographies. Any other edits were undone without exception. Kind regards from PJvanMill)talk( 13:15, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

User:Levivich/Help

Hi HLHJ, LTNS :-) Hope you're doing ok. Last year—before the world ended—we had a discussion at Clovermoss's talk page (User talk:Clovermoss/Archive 4#Editor retention, typo trivia) and you took a look at an early draft of User:Levivich/Help. I recently got back to that and expanded it, thought you might be interested in seeing the changes. Any feedback you have would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Levivich ^harass/_hound 06:46, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Levivich, and thank you for sending me the changes. It's looking good. I hadn't come across the Wikipedia:Dashboard before, and it seems quite useful. Nor had I seen Wikipedia:Community_portal/Opentask. The only nit I'd pick would be that some of the target help pages have gotten a bit slanted towards experienced editors, and you are certainly not responsible for doing all that. I'll try to go through some of them, using your help key as an index. I'm a bit depressed by the length of User:Levivich/Conduct problem, but it seems needed. The Growth Team has been trying to make CAPTCHA-like editing assistant tools; I think they might find User:Levivich/Something to do useful.

I have, surprisingly, been a bit busy off-wiki. I hope you are also doing well. There are far worse things to do while waiting for the world to gradually unend than edit Wikipedia, and help-page lengths notwithstanding, the company here is generally excellent. HLHJ (talk) 05:32, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your encouragements

Great Supporter

Your mention of taffeta and textile topics made me wander to another of my pet topics. So eventually I will be getting better involved there (currently I am quite frustrated by the lack of standardisation in that environment) and, yes, I still plan to find a believable reference for taffeta 😊. Your updates on FRIN are a good example for me to be more direct/simple in my writing. I also got inspired by your information of your language skills and I added similar information to my profile. Cheers. Glafoululle des Alpes (talk) 17:18, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, Glafoululle des Alpes! Wikipedia:Global user page/de:Hilfe:Globale Benutzerseite ist auch hilfreich falls man mehrerer Wikis bearbeitet. Soll ich eigentlich irgendwann selber nutzen. HLHJ (talk) 05:19, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Ich hab mich an Wikipedia:Global user page gewagt und eine globale Benutzerseite erstellt. Solltest Du auch machen; man bekommt dann so spannende Emails wie « HsfBot meninggalkan Anda sebuah pesan di Wikipedia » und dann kann man auf seiner arabischen Diskussionsseite durch Google Translate «من ويكيبيديا، الموسوعة الحرة » mit « Aus Wikipedia, der freien Enzyklopädie» übersetzen 😁. Die Banner funktionieren leider nicht (man sollte wohl mal meta-banner definieren). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Glafoululle des Alpes (talk • contribs) 18:50, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Toll, habe ich jetzt auch gemacht; die spannende E-mails kann ich mich nicht entgehen lassen. Ich kreigte sowieso Botschaften die Erklärungen auf Russisch usw. benötigen, weil ich mal Bilder Sprachenquer eingefügt habe. Wiktionary ist mal ganz nützlich. HLHJ (talk) 05:52, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

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DYK

Hello! Your submission of Numbered-node cycle network at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! 4meter4 (talk) 00:51, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

You mentioned at Template:Did you know nominations/Numbered-node cycle network that you weren't sure about your QPQ credits. It's pretty much up to individual users to keep track of them and demonstrate that they've fulfilled the requirement. I keep a list in my userspace because some of my credits go back a couple years and there's no way I'd remember them.

I'm not sure if there's a specific tool for finding your reviews, but you can use the following method: Enter HLHJ prefix:Template:Did you know nominations into the search box and it returns a list of 42 DYK noms that have your signature. Eliminate the entries from the list of your 11 credited DYK nominations at QPQ check tool. Then weed out the others, looking for unused reviews.

I found the following reviews which appear to be unused:

• Template:Did you know nominations/Salton Buttes
• Template:Did you know nominations/Peter van Geersdaele
• Template:Did you know nominations/Holothuria fuscopunctata

I got a little confused with Template:Did you know nominations/Benty Grange helmet, a single article hook which offered two reviews: Template:Did you know nominations/Nematophagous fungus and Template:Did you know nominations/Benty Grange helmet. The latter was reviewed by yourself and Gerda Arendt, who used it for QPQ on a nom which was later withdrawn. So I think it's still free to use for QPQ.

Good work with that cycling article! Happy editing! – Reidgreg (talk) 15:14, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Category:Portable furniture has been nominated for deletion

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DYK for Numbered-node cycle network

On 31 May 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Numbered-node cycle network, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the international numbered-node cycle network (example sign pictured) gives more freedom to cycle arbitrary routes across Europe? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Numbered-node cycle network. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Numbered-node cycle network), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Use of the "Expert needed" template without category or reason parameters

Hey, I've been doing some maintenance category cleanout and noticed that you added the {{Expert needed}} template to Platform bed, but you didn't specify a WikiProject category. Not specifying a category makes the template unhelpful, and adds it to the useless Category:Articles needing unspecified expert attention. Additionally, it's crucial to add a reason= parameter, or it will probably be removed because nobody can tell what the problem is. I added a category for you, but please supply parameters when using that template in the future (i.e. {{expert needed|Politics|ex2=Economics|ex3=Finance & Investment|reason=These GDP figures look like they might be miscalculated}}. Cheers! jp×g 23:39, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Got another one on Divan (furniture). jp×g 23:43, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, JPxG. I'll try to give params in future. HLHJ (talk) 01:11, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Re: Tanmono

Hello HLHJ I have added projects Japan, Fashion, to your article. You may wish to join them, check their to-do, and meet new people with interest in these topics. ( To reply click "edit" next to this section, and add your reply at the end. ) Cheers, --Gryllida (talk, e-mail) 03:39, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Wow that was fast, Gryllida, I only made it literally two minutes ago! Thank you. HLHJ (talk) 03:43, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your edits to Japanese subject matter articles!

Hiya - just wanted to pop in and say thanks for your hard work in improving various Japanese subject matter articles!

I also wanted to ask something of you. Could I ask that you maybe start adding {{transl}} and {{nihongo}} templates to your work wherever possible? I've been adding foreign language tags to these articles for a while now, and before your edits, a lot of them were completely done, in terms of foreign language terms being placed in the right templates.

They're pretty easy to use - transl for transliterated terms, {{lang}} if it's just kanji on its own, nihongo for english first, then kanji and romaji in brackets, and {{nihongo3}} when you want the places of romaji and english flipped in the eventual display. I understand it's a pain to slow down edits with adding these in, but I'm trying to make more editors aware of guidelines like MOS:ACCESS, and how they make Wikipedia more accessible for users with screenreaders.

I really appreciate having someone else help out on these pages, but it would save time not to have to go over them again to see what might need a template now(!) - the task of doing up these articles is never-ending. Again - any help at all is appreciated, ans what you've done so far is amazing. Thank you! --Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) 10:10, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

I was meaning to thank you for all your work cleaning up the phrasing and formatting, Ineffablebookkeeper. It's made the articles much clearer. I've been trying to use templates, but obviously I've done it wrongly; I was thinking any template that indicates that it's Japanese would suffice for a screenreader. Thank you for the quick guide, and I'll look into it more closely and try to use it correctly in future. I fear shoji is also pretty bad. HLHJ (talk) 15:02, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

There's a variety of templates, but some of them - confusingly - kinda do the same thing. Please don't feel bad about it! Language templates across Wikipedia as a whole are a bit of a conglomerate mess; there's not *really* much standardisation.

For instance, {{lang|ja-Latn|text}} and {{transl|ja|text}} will both send the information to the page that 'hey, this text is Japanese' - so it does get pronounced correctly.

However, ja-Latn confusingly wants to choose a display font that's as good for what it *thinks* is *entirely* Japanese text - even though it's romanised, it thinks, crap, I need a font that'll do kanji and the like as well.

This means, for some users, any text within a ja-Latn tag displays in an awkwardly different font - to the point that on occasion, I've seen a few editors removing tags for having simply buggered up the display.

I found this confusing as all shit at first myself - took me a while to wrap my head around what the nihongo template could and couldn't do. And that's not even picking up on templates like {{zh}} and {{korean}}(!) -- Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) 19:47, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

That ja-Latn behaviour sounds like a flat-out bug; I mean, it isn't the 1980s, we have Unicode, it is not difficult to scan a character string and figure out if a font suffices. I really like the kanji with syllabic ruby text (it's a little like the Chinese characters were originally, with a meaning radical and a sound radical, but standardized spelling has downsides, especially after a few millennia). Especially if I am writing words with pretty rare kanji, ruby text is useful. HLHJ (talk) 01:38, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

I didn't even know about the ruby function until recently. There's a lot of terms I use that are really unusual or uncommon maegane, for example, commons refers to glasses, but when it comes to geta and zōri, it refers to these little things you see on the front base that cover up the front hanao knot.

I feel like there's a lot of places it could be used, so provided it doesn't interfere with the nihongo template's data, I could probably start putting it into some articles. -- Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) 09:42, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes, Wiktionary:めがね (no idea how to template that, especially if I add "#Japanese") doesn't even mention sandals. I quite like bopomofo ruby, too; the various romanizations of Mandarin are startlingly lacking in 1-to-1 phoneme-grapheme correspondence. I have no idea if it interferes with other templates. I found a better way to do the IPA in Waraji, tho. HLHJ (talk) 14:16, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Sorry to be a pain

Could I be a pain in the butt and ask you to have a look in on Itchiku Kubota for me? There's about as many repeated references as you could shake a stick at, and the organisation of the article's information is a nightmare - I swear half of it is repeated in the Legacy section for no reason. Thanks! (And sorry!) --Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) 10:41, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

I've dedupped the refs, I hope, Ineffablebookkeeper, and I've very roughly amalgamated those sections (~no rewriting; just reordering). I hope this is useful. There really ought to be a semi-automated tool for the former task. An article on art with no pictures of said art is a bit lacking, somehow. HLHJ (talk) 02:32, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Tropical neuropathy (disambiguation)

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It was a redirect; I see that policy is to remove it if it's redirecting to one article. I've added some citations to the Tropical neuropathy article, if it's going to be stand-alone. HLHJ (talk) 15:09, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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	I stubbed and broke my toe last night. The information at broken toe was exactly what I needed. Thank you, thank you! (I also went through my local 8-1-1 system, and they gave identical info, so that's comforting in both directions!) [I was tempted to use the "stub barnstar"... but oh gods it hurts! XD] Best wishes, Quiddity (talk) 19:47, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Ouch! I hope you are feeling better soon, Quiddity. I'm glad to hear that the local healthcare agrees with the sources I could find. It's not the best-studied topic in medicine, and as I recall there was a German-language paper which I could not read due to a paywall. I'm really glad it was actually helpful, too. Just-in-time-delivery; the page publication timestamp is 03:29, 31 October 2021. It was prompted by discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine#Sacral fracture. HLHJ (talk) 20:19, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

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Precious anniversary

Precious

Four years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:05, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

A belated thank you, Gerda Arendt! Wow, has it been that long? HLHJ (talk) 21:30, 23 December 2021 (UTC)