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N.A.T.O. has specific on page of expenses in dollars and not in euro's. Seems to be a mistake? Or definite attempt to mislead and abscond? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.185.137.72 (talk) 14:26, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
Please stop reverting to your preferred version without consensus. Multiple editors object, and there is no consensus for the inclusion. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:54, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
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Edits at United States
editHello. This regards your recent edits inserting "informally" before "America" in the lead at United States: here and here. Regarding the first edit and its edit summary what were you reverting? As far as I can tell, you first added "informally" on 26 November 2022 and it was removed on 9 December of that year (note the different editor). I didn't see that wording subsequently, until your recent edits. Regarding the second edit and its edit summary, where is the discussion that shows consensus on your side? I didn't find it. "America" might be "unsanctioned" (quoting Fowler quoting Evans's A Dictionary of Contemporary American Usage), but perhaps not more than the various other shortenings. I think that "commonly" covers the simplifications, especially given that it's the lead. Further classifying belongs to the article body or even a separate article. Dhtwiki (talk) 23:49, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hello. I was reverting the people reverting the change when this discussion happened. The discussion is happening above (§ Regarding reverting edits solely due to lack of edit summary), as well as on Names of the United States.
- As for "commonly", I clearly disagree. "Commonly" muddles the distinction between formal short names and colloquial names, which I can confirm by the fact that I've seen far too many people on the internet say that the Wikipedia article's lead says that "America is a commonly used name for the United States; therefore, it's just as much an official name for the country as 'the United States'". Almost all other country articles follow the pattern of
Page title, officially <official name> and informally <unofficial names>, ...
Given that this article's structure of the lead is flipped (it starts with the full official name), this is one way to convey that. I'm open to other ways of doing it, or ideally, flipping the structure to conform to the convention that most other country articles follow. Getsnoopy (talk) 21:00, 4 February 2024 (UTC)- America is what most of the world refers to the USA as. In Japanese, we primarily use America in formal settings. There are also organizations such as the MAA (Mathematical Association of America) too. I sense you're frustrated, but it's important to note that the previous version's use of "commonly" is accurate, whereas your wording might not universally apply. I personally suggest resolving any issues with your online peers separately, without bringing the conflict to this platform. Joelinton111Mes (talk) 04:24, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
America is what most of the world refers to the USA as.
No, "the US" is. "America" referring to the US is firmly a colloquialism, and it's even acknowledged as such throughout WP, as well as other platforms, so it's definitely not "bringing the conflict to this platform". The US's official style guide always refers to itself as "the United States", as does the UN and basically every other international entity/forum. Japanese is a different language, so its conventions do not apply here.- Re: "commonly", the same goes for "Holland" for the Netherlands. In fact, it's so common that the official tourism website refers to the Netherlands as "Holland". Of course, this doesn't change the fact that that's an informal name for the country, and would be inappropriate for WP to not mention it as such, let alone use it in its articles. Getsnoopy (talk) 04:54, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- You have not addressed the fact there are cases of "America" being used officially. Your edit just decreases the accuracy of the page, seemingly just for the convenience of your own agenda (which is, just for your personal conversations online...?)
- And yes, majority of the world refers to the USA as America.
- And please do not propagate your agenda online (at least without us even reaching a consensus regarding the same issue here.) I have undone your recent changes to Names_of_the_United_States. Joelinton111Mes (talk) 05:58, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- There was consensus and discussion to arrive at that version of the page (please look at the history of the page before doing anything), and the article was changed from that consensus without discussion.
- As for "agenda", there is no agenda. It is just a clear representation of facts. Please do not revert or do anything until this discussion resolves. Getsnoopy (talk) 19:51, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- America is what most of the world refers to the USA as. In Japanese, we primarily use America in formal settings. There are also organizations such as the MAA (Mathematical Association of America) too. I sense you're frustrated, but it's important to note that the previous version's use of "commonly" is accurate, whereas your wording might not universally apply. I personally suggest resolving any issues with your online peers separately, without bringing the conflict to this platform. Joelinton111Mes (talk) 04:24, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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- The same goes for you: please stop edit warring. There was no consensus, but you are engaging in edit warring nevertheless. Getsnoopy (talk) 19:55, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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- OK. I'll be sure to do the same for you as well. Good luck. Getsnoopy (talk) 19:10, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
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