Dobbyelf62

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Thanks. I work under the general understanding, the custom it seems, that if you create an article you can't—and shouldn't—really rate it any higher than start-class. Daniel Case (talk) 22:32, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

I took a look at the Content assessment page, and the rules do not prohibit editors of the articles from assessing unless the rating is GA status or higher. If a dispute arises over an assessment, then the details can be hashed out in the talk page, but this has yet to happen to me. I generally base my ratings on other articles with comparable content and quality, and from my assessment, "We Work the Black Seam" was more comparable to C class and even B class, but I instead opted for the more conservative option. Dobbyelf62 (talk) 22:48, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Nevertheless, I still feel editors who contribute most of the content to an article should leave the assessment beyond start-class to others. It just looks better. Daniel Case (talk) 22:50, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

GA nom for "We Work the Black Seam"?

Someone popped by my DYK nom for the article and suggested that, for the ALT3 hook which mentions the miner's strike, if it were as I suggested to run on March 6, the 40th anniversary of the miner's strike beginning, which as I said will probably generate some coverage in the British media and thus increase interest in the hook, it might be better to take it out of the DYK queue and nominate it for GA since that way it would be fresher by then.

I admit I'm thinking about this more and more since no one's reviewed the nom in the almost-month since I made it. As I indicated, back in December it mattered less since I had plenty of hooks, but now, with that date just over two months away ... it might have just enough time to work.

Do you think there's time to nominate it, get it reviewed and promoted, and then through DYK? I don't know what the turnover is with song GA noms ... it seems that noms about, say, Taylor Swift or Meghan Trainor songs are getting reviewed quickly, but I don't know about 40-year-old Sting songs. And I'd like it to be reviewed by someone with the freshest eyes possible, i.e., who hasn't worked on it even a little. Daniel Case (talk) 23:01, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

It's nice to hear from you again! I was on a wikibreak over the past week, so I'm just getting to this message now. My experiences with GA nominations are largely confined to a failed attempt of an article I significantly contributed back to 2019, and the article was quickly reviewed (and rejected) back then. Seeing that the article is in stable condition right now (it has not experienced significant revisions since mid December), it's certainly worthwhile to submit it for GA review now. If the article falls short, then there will be opportunities to take that feedback and make additional improvements. I agree that the article should be reviewed with a set of fresh eyes.

As for the DYK queue, I have yet to make any submissions, but it appears that March 6th is the best chance for the ALT3 hook to be featured given the timeliness of the miner's strike. Dobbyelf62 (talk) 19:18, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

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Welcome to the drive!

Welcome, welcome, welcome Dobbyelf62! I'm glad that you are joining the drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles.

Fix a random page lacking sources

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, Dobbyelf62. Thank you for your work on Farmer's Daughter (The Beach Boys song). Bastun, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

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DYK for We Work the Black Seam

On 6 March 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article We Work the Black Seam, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Sting wrote "We Work the Black Seam" because he felt that "the case for coal was never put to the nation" during the 1984–85 British miners' strike (which began 40 years ago today)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/We Work the Black Seam. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, We Work the Black Seam), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Ganesha811 (talk) 00:02, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

February 2024 WikiProject Unreferenced articles backlog drive – award

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		This award is given in recognition to Dobbyelf62 for collecting more than 25 points during the WikiProject Unreferenced articles's FEB24 backlog drive. Your contributions played a crucial role in sourcing 14,300 unsourced articles during the drive. Thank you so much for participating and helping to reduce the backlog! – – DreamRimmer (talk) 18:30, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

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Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 22:53, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Landslide (Fleetwood Mac song)

I appreciate your contribution here. I think a lot of editors would just reinstate the false title, but you managed to find an improvement there. Thank you. JeffSpaceman (talk) 16:45, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I looked at Popcornfud's essay for the rationale behind removing false titles and found it reasonable enough. For all future articles I create, I'll attempt to abide by this rule. Dobbyelf62 (talk) 17:55, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Don't Stop (Fleetwood Mac song)

There are several sources for song lyrics, other than YouTube. Can you suggest one? I see lyrics.com , azlyrics.com , musixmatch.com , genius.com

I feel that if the previous paragraph discusses former husband John McVie didn't know Christine McVie's lyrics were about him, some lyrics should be included to illustrate the song's direction. Thanks.

Gregg - nh153

Thanks for reaching out. Generally, user-generated content is discouraged on Wikipedia, so none of the aforementioned sources would work. If you can find a professional music review that highlights the optimistic lyrics, I would be willing to look at it. Dobbyelf62 (talk) 22:30, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Sentimental Lady

Hi! Just regarding your edit [1] – I might be missing something but I can't see where the source says it's "musical gold" or where it says it should've been a hit had it been an A-side. I see it says the Mac version should've been a hit, and of course it actually was an A-side in some countries. Cheers, Bretonbanquet (talk) 17:44, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

@Bretonbanquet: Upon further examination, the "musical gold" quote was actually for the song "Hypnotized", although the article does cover "Sentimental Lady" elsewhere. This was an oversight on my part, so I will make those changes right now. Thanks for the catch. Dobbyelf62 (talk) 18:55, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

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Christine's full documentary

Hey, Dobby. I was able to finally find the second part of Christine's 1984 documentary and uploaded it to the internet archive, here. I also uploaded this magazine interview excerpt someone uploaded it to The Ledge. Thought you'd be interested and hopefully it can also help you out. Have a good day! Juand.1974 (talk) 16:24, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for posting this. I just finished the full documentary, and I believe that we can incorporate a few things from here into the article. As for the August interview, a lot of the information is already accounted for, but I might be able to find one or two tidbits that are worth including. You can expect some changes to be made tomorrow. Dobbyelf62 (talk) 23:26, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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Another Todd interview

Hey Dobby. I found this other Todd interview from 2016 we can use, if you're interested.. Its split in two parts but these are the time stamps where he talks about Christine: part 1 (34:48–47:55) and part 2 (0:46–5:40). In the first part he talks about how he got to work with Christine, a bit about the albums recording, and Clapton's contribution, while in the second one he talks about why Billy Burnette did not tour with them and about Stephen Bruton and how he met him. I think we'll be done with the article soon after. Anyway, I hope you have a happy New Year and thank you again for all your help. Juand.1974 (talk) 00:20, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Nice find! The Stephen Bruton information will likely fill in some of the few remaining gaps that still exist in this article. Very soon, I will be ready to move on to other Fleetwood Mac articles. Currently, I'm in the process of creating a new article for "Angel" from the 1979 Tusk album, but after that, I plan on splitting my efforts between Fleetwood Mac's 1969 Then Play On and Mick Fleetwood's The Visitor from 1981.

Thank you for the extensive effort you have put into this article. Back in 2023, the article was incredibly sparse in terms of substantive content, so I did my best to cover some key facts that provided readers with a decent synopsis. Now, I'm happy that we are finally finishing it. I never expected the article to become this comprehensive and your efforts have far exceeded what I initially thought could be accomplished. Enjoy the New Year! Dobbyelf62 (talk) 00:38, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

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