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The Signpost: 3 January 2011

WP:FILM December 2010 Newsletter

--Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 03:54, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Tempora Heroica

hi just a note about the deletion of the article on Tempora Heroica. Tempora Heroica or TH is a MUD (multi user dungeon) based on a long serious of MUDS going back to the original MUD codebase, the first multiplayer internet game. TH is one of the original DIKUMUD games and is the 'child' of Archipelago MUD which was developed in 1993 from CircleMUD. The reason a lot of online material has dissapeared regarding TH is simply the growth in MMPORGS and decline in interest in MUDs. I used to maintain a page describing the Arch Code (Archipelago MUD code which TH is based on) and I will put this online shortly, including some links to information about TH across the Web which still survive. I must say it is strange that this article has been removed given its historic significance for the internet and indeed educational technology research as a service hosted by ibiblio. When I have Ihave re-hosted my old pages I will come back and either request the article is re-added or create a new article on the branch of MUDs concerning Archipelago/ Tempora Heroica, which are historic software from the earliest days of the net. --Gwledig (talk) 15:37, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

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Re:Interview

Thanks. And I definitely agree; the more editors involved in archiving, the better. I cringe every time I use an online source that I didn't dig up through the Wayback Machine.

Unfortunately, WebCite is a fairly poor substitute, in my opinion, as it doesn't allow users to travel between cached pages without completely changing cache URLs. It's a real pain for multi-page articles. But hey, Internet Archive doesn't let you archive on demand, so at least that's something. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 21:07, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

  • Oh, and I plan to put your Featured List article to good use. I created a list as the main article for the future Looking Glass Studios games GT, and need, eventually, for it to be featured. Thanks for writing it; it'll definitely help, as I've never written a FL before. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 21:13, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

WikiXDC: Wikipedia 10th Birthday!

 
 
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File:ZX81_concept_design.jpg

Another OTRS request, the Flikr page is non-commercial, but the image on wp is commercial, I have been informed that the OTRS confirms the change in license Fasach Nua (talk) 20:56, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Jared Lee Loughner‎

Thank you! Active Banana (bananaphone 19:07, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Ha, you got it wrong. It is here again! --Hinata talk 19:16, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
David, I've restored this and protected it against further moves. There were two AfDs (or rather there was one: closed as keep, reopened, and closed again as keep). There is also an ongoing merge discussion on talk, for which there's currently no consensus. If you want to it be merged, please take part in that discussion, or take the AfD decision to deletion review. I can see where you're coming from, but there's likely to be a great deal of drama if this is redirected and protected out of process. I hope you understand. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 19:18, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

From SV talk

He has not been convicted and is currently only notable for the shooting; BLP#1E and PERP considerations apply. There was a merge discussion on the talk page. I really wish you would be willing to consult first instead of reverting blindly. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 19:14, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

I've already responded on your page, David. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 19:19, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
RE: [2] the result of the AfD was NOT keep. the result was not delete of which merge is an option, and per WP:BLP WP:PERP and WP:BURO we err on the side of protecting individuals while discussions are ongoing. Active Banana (bananaphone 19:23, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Considering that you've been previously involved in the discussion, I would hope that you wouldn't assume that I'm trying to get "my way". Either way I'm not going to fight a wasteful war. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 19:25, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
I haven't been involved in the discussion, David, so far as I recall. I'm involved in a few Tucson-related articles as an admin only. I have no opinion on content, or whether that one should be merged. But there has to be consensus to do so, and there currently isn't. Redirecting it against consensus will only get people riled for no reason. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 19:29, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

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Halo

I saw you work with halo articles. I wanted to know why Halo Waypoint article is a redirect to the Halo franchise article? Spongie555 (talk) 07:51, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

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Halo Cryptum

The name of the 1st novel of the forerunner installment is Halo Cryptum.

www.joystiq.com/.../halo-cryptum-novel-by-greg-bear-launching-in-jan-2011 halo.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_Cryptum us.macmillan.com/halocryptum —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.198.134.35 (talk) 03:17, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

RE:Lara Croft

Yeah I got it. Just haven't had the time to do anything with it. :-p It came in before Xmas, and the plan was to expand the article then re-nominate first week of January... Best laid plans of men I guess. Thanks for the heads up. (Guyinblack25 talk 15:22, 21 January 2011 (UTC))

Tally

Hello! When !voting in an arbitration request, don't forget to update the tally. Cheers, HeyMid (contribs) 19:24, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Tales of Monkey Island non-free stuff

It would appear that the one element left to resolve in the FAC is the non-free images. I know you gave your support to the images as they were, but it seems Sandy isn't quite convinced yet. You're more experienced with all this non-free bureaucracy than I am, I don't suppose you could strengthen the fair use rationale on File:Guybrush Threepwood TMI concepts.jpg? I'm definitely of the mind that this image is perfectly justified, and I've redone the caption and expanded the text in the design section to help accomodate it, but I suck at doing decent rationales to go with. Any help you could give would be greatly appreciated. Don't worry about the other non-free image, I'm going to replace that with one with far less baggage as Jappalang suggests in the FAC. -- Sabre (talk) 16:33, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, the bits I did add to the design section were definitely related to Guybrush's design, so we'll have to see what the response is to that. The rationale on the filepage is where I think its going to fall down, I just never got my head around how to do those effectively in these situations. I really don't want to lose the last image that shows development in progress/concept art, I always think that's a valuable addition to these sorts of articles so I really want it to work out. I'd hate to have to sacrifice it to to the non-free machine for the sake of a bronze star in the article corner, but I guess I'll have to if Jappalang disagrees. -- Sabre (talk) 17:41, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

 
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Re:Copyedit request

Sounds like fun. I recently noticed that there was a push to get this Featured; I'd be glad to help you guys reach that goal. I'll start in on it later today. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 21:33, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

  • Sorry about the delay; I've been helping User:PresN prepare Flow (video game) for FAC. I'm nearly done copyediting that article, though, and Link's Awakening is next on the agenda. I'll start seriously working on it today or tomorrow. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 01:05, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
    • Thanks. However, it looks like I really will be able to start tomorrow, as I just finished Flow. I assume PresN will send it to FAC in the next few days; hopefully, no major 1a conerns will arise.
    • Also, I really hate to ask you for a favor—particularly because I haven't started on the one you asked of me—but I need the help. I've been working on Flight Unlimited recently, giving it a more-or-less proper lead, and a half-finished Development section. However, Reception material is scarce, and I haven't been able to access three of the sources I'll need for that section. I plan to take the article to FAC in the next few months, once it's actually finished, so I'll need all the material I can get. If you have time, it'd be great if you could use your databases to look for this, this, and this. Sorry to ask, since I know you're busy. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 10:53, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
      • Making my way through the article. I usually do a two-pass copyedit; the first deals with obvious problems, while the second corrects any mistakes I missed—or made. However, the article's writing is clean enough that I don't believe a second pass will be necessary. Because of this, I'll almost surely be finished within the week. You shouldn't have much trouble at FAC; it seems like a solid piece of work. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 10:33, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
        • Scratch the above. Unfortunately, after digging further into the Gameplay section, I believe that a second pass will be needed to smooth out the rough edges. That'll probably extend the time to around two weeks; I hope that isn't a problem. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 00:49, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
          • Nearing completion of the first pass. Sorry it's taking so long; I've got a lot on my plate right now. I should be finished with the Reception section in the next day or two, after which I will begin the second pass. That should go pretty quickly, as I'm pretty sure I cleared up most of the issues already. After that, feel free to nominate it whenever you have time. And, when you get the chance, it'd really help me out if you could look up those three sources I mentioned above. It's been hard to find reliable material for Flight Unlimited's Reception section. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 19:12, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
            • Thanks. Also, I'll try to finish the first pass today, and begin the second tomorrow. Now that I've read the whole thing (while copyediting, I traditionally only read an article as far as I've worked), I can safely say that it's solid FAC material. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 17:42, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
              • I'll see what I can get out of these; some of it looked pretty promising. Thanks. If you can't find the Computer Shopper stuff, I'll use the Highbeam free trial if it's still around, and try to save all of the Looking Glass-related material I can in one fell swoop. I've been trying to avoid doing that until it was absolutely necessary, as I only have one shot to get all of it; it seems, however, that it might finally be "absolutely necessary". That Newsday review, though, doesn't seem to be available anywhere, which is a shame. If you can't find it, I may have to resort to buying it from their archives; otherwise, I probably won't have enough Reception material to pass FAC. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 17:44, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Second pass complete. There was a lot less to fix than I expected; it was almost not necessary. Feel free to ship it off to FAC whenever you're ready. Hopefully, there won't be any 1a concerns. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 19:44, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 January 2011

WP:FILM January 2011 Newsletter

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Main page appearance

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The Signpost: 7 February 2011

Personal Question

Hey David, Since you're an editor I have a great deal of respect for and I know that you're reasonable, I thought I might ask you about your earlier Wikipedia experiences.

You see, I recently archived my talk page and I caught some criticisms of me during my first three years of Wikipedia that I found pretty sharp and disenchanting. I suppose it kind of shook me a little. Since you're one of the top contributors for Wikipedia, I thought I might ask you, did you have troubles like this earlier in your Wikipedia career? I mean, only in the last year have I gotten very serious about Wikipedia and contributed top-quality material, but the earlier days were rough. So, can you relate somewhat? DarthBotto talkcont 06:10, 08 February 2011 (UTC)

Image

What did you mean by "you could probably get away with a slightly larger image"? [4] Do you mean using 'frame' instead of 'thumb'? « ₣M₣ » 01:01, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

I've upload a larger version, but I cannot get rid of those fragments when viewed from the article. What the hell is with Wiki's software... I think I'm done trying lol « ₣M₣ » 20:02, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

HEY lol « ₣M₣ » 19:44, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

simple question

I feel a little stupid asking this question, but... On your User page you say that if someone wants to talk privately to you, to send you an email. Are you referring to some sort of wiki-email I am not familiar with? Or are you referring to normal, run-of-the-mill internet email through a regular ISP (Internet Service Provider)? If it is the latter, where does one find your email address. Sorry to bother you with such trivial questions, but I have a feeling you can be a good resource for simple technical questions in this domain... Thank you, warshytalk 20:32, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Now I see it. But this option appears only in the User's talk page, not on the main page. That's what threw me off here, I think. Now I will play a little with my own and learn how it works. Thanks a lot. warshytalk 20:59, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Well, here comes the next question then, if you'll humor me... I don't see this option on my own talk page. Do you see it there? If not, how do you set it up for other people to be able to contact you through email, if they want? Thanks a lot. warshytalk 21:02, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

My option "enable email from other users" in my profile is checked, as well as the other two. That is why asked if you can see the option to email me on my talk page, since I can't? Thanks for humoring me... Do you regularly follow pages of other users and also answer for them? Just curious, trying to learn the environment as much as I can... Thanks. warshytalk 21:16, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Hey Warshy, yes I can see the email user link on your talk page. I didn't realize it didn't appear on the user page itself. Protonk's what we call a "talk page stalker", just someone who happens to have another person's user talk page on their watchlist. They're very helpful at answering questions before the user in question usually does :) Thanks, P. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 22:18, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks David and Protonk for humoring me and answering my questions and explaining to me. I really found your User page very informative, David, so let me explore around a bit some new stuff I learned there, and I may be back later with some more technical questions. Thanks a lot again in the meantime. warshytalk 00:25, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

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I was suggested the ArbCom by the admin User:Amatulic.--Lsorin (talk) 02:31, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

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Gamesauce

Just wanted to ping you on the topic of Gamesauce at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Sources#Gamesauce. I replied to your comment here, but had not heard back and don't want the discussion to close without a consensus one way or another. I know you're busy, but when you get time can you take a look? Thanks much! --Teancum (talk) 16:48, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 14 February 2011

Link's Awakening

A strong oppose from me the first time around? To be wiki-young again. Ah, the nostalgia. Anyway, kudos for continue to churn out content even with the notoriously time-killing ArbCom duties. I was afraid I'd seen the last of your FAs for a while. --Andy Walsh (talk) 17:19, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Halo: ODST

Hey Davis. Just wanna let you know about this new article. Halo 3: ODST OST GamerPro64 (talk) 02:06, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Help

Hello, David. I just put Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows through an FAC and the one thing the reviewers agreed on is that the article didn't pass criterion 1a of the FA criteria. Since you have written many Featured articles (including one of the best film FAs, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan), I think that a good copy edit from someone like you could pass the article. Thanks, Guy546(Talk) 01:21, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Guy546(Talk) 23:02, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Yea!

Hi David, just got back from a long break and see that you are now on arb. Congrats!!!! Thanks for volunteering for such an .... icky .... duty :) Karanacs (talk) 19:49, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Odd edit

Hi. I'm guessing this was unintended. I've reverted it. Cheers, Pichpich (talk) 21:24, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

March 2011 GAN backlog elimination drive a week away

 

WikiProject Good Articles will be running a GAN backlog elimination drive for the entire month of March. The goal of this drive is to bring the number of outstanding Good Article nominations down to below 50. This will help editors in restoring confidence to the GAN process as well as actively improving, polishing, and rewarding good content. If you are interested in participating in the drive, please place your name here. Awards will be given out to those who review certain numbers of GANs as well as to those who review the most. On behalf of my co-coordinator Wizardman, we hope we can see you in March. MuZemike delivered by MuZebot 00:28, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 21 February 2011

house episode list template in pilot

Hello.

If you watch a bit (just a little bit) closely, you will see that Pilot (House) is not a standalone article, since it is part of a TV show. Therefore, you can see that the other episodes from season 1 and onwards do have the complete Template:Infobox House (TV series) season 1 episode list and so, why suppress the list?... It is an action completely not uniform to the rest of the episodes and seasons.

I know, with many people editing, it is a bit difficult to set new standards. But I do care about things/articles following some uniform rules.

At least, take this into consideration. Thanks. 83.132.26.103 (talk) 20:20, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Plot

Hi, David. I started work on Lawrence of Arabia (film) in hopes of getting it to Featured Article status by the film's 50th anniversary. I know that you prefer to cite a secondary source for the plot summaries of the Star Trek films, and I took a similar approach with Lawrence of Arabia, using a synopsis published online by the British Film Institute. I was reverted, though, and I started discussion on the talk page as seen here. Are my points similar to yours in using such sources for the summaries? Are there any other policies or guidelines that I can mention? I just think that the film's current plot summary is a little too creative for a description of the primary source. Erik (talk | contribs) 00:17, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Me and Juliet

I'm a bit puzzled by one of your edits. I tried to refine the Hammerstein/Rodgers dynamic which caused them to do the play, and removed your hidden comment. Did I misunderstand what you meant? Perhaps it would be best if you explained it a bit more, as you restored the hidden comment. Many thanks for the review.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:19, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Halo: Reach Article

David,

I agree with you that a plot is meant to summarize the story. However, because Halo:Reach is character-driven and focuses solely on Noble Team at the time of Reach's invasion, I think the deaths of the members of Noble should be elaborated.

If you disagree, just shoot me an email

-Wikiaccounts — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiaccounts (talkcontribs) 00:01, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Rodhullandemu motion

I noticed that you had refrained from voting on the Rodhullandemu motion, but have since commented on WT:ACN about it. Might I ask why? Was it simply a time issue, or something else? NW (Talk) 15:35, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Oversight on my part; I voted for one proposal but not the other that ended up passing. Regardless, I still agree with the Committee's decision as a whole. We had good reason to approach it as we did, although the fallout has suggested we should improve some aspects of our method. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 16:22, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Wikimania 2012 bid, DC chapter & next meetup!

  1. At WikiXDC in January, User:Harej proposed that DC submit a bid to host Wikimania 2012. A bid and organizing committee is being formed and seeks additional volunteers to help. Please look at our bid page and sign up if you want to help out. You can also signup for the bid team's email list.
  2. To support the Wikimania bid, more events like WikiXDC, and outreach activities like collaborations with the Smithsonian (ongoing) and National Archives, there also has been discussion of forming Wikimedia DC, as an official Wikimedia chapter. You can express interest and contribute to chapter discussions on the Wikimedia DC Meta-Wiki pages.
  3. To discuss all this and meet up with special guest, Dutch Wikipedian User:Kim Bruning, there will be a meetup, Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 16 this Tuesday at 7pm, at Capitol City Brewery, Metro Center. There will be a pre-meetup Wikimania team meeting at 6pm at the same location.

Apologies for the short notice for this meetup, but let's discuss when, where & what for DC Meetup #17. Also, if you haven't yet, please join wikimedia-dc mailing list to stay informed. Cheers, User:Aude (talk)


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The Signpost: 28 February 2011

WP:FILM February 2011 Newsletter

--Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 03:05, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm baaaack!

Miss me? Hope all is well! Changing jobs, fiancees, houses, and other things kept me away from Wikipedia for a while, but I have been observing all this time. Great work on the Star Trek films! I wanted to run something by you, since you have done such amazing work on the Halo series, I wanted to propose that, if Factions of Halo was a GA, you could put the last two Halo Topics up for Good Topic, so every article in the projects jurisdiction would be in a good or Featured Topic! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Halo/possible_FTs#Potential.2Fin_progress_topics Thoughts? Judgesurreal777 20:26, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Video games Triple Crown

 
Your Majesty, David Fuchs, I am pleased to award this special edition triple crown to WikiProject Video games and its hardworking volunteers. – SMasters (talk) 09:11, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for all your hard work. May you wear the crowns well, and may the gamepad crown motivate you to press on with more outstanding articles. – SMasters (talk) 09:11, 4 March 2011 (UTC)