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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. You can read translations.
Recent changes
- You can test a new system to see math using MathML. Go to your display options and choose "⧼mw math mathml⧽".
- You can add badges in Wikidata for quality articles and featured lists. [1] [2]
File information cleanup
- You can join a wiki project to help tools read file information. It will help people reuse files.
- See how to fix metadata. You can fix it by adding markers to templates and adding templates to files.
- You can see a list of files missing machine-readable information on your wiki.
- The files missing readable data are also in these categories: no license, no description, no author or no source. [3]
Problems
- Developers fixed a security problem. If you use Internet Explorer 6, you won't be able to log in any more. You should use a newer browser. [4]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki (1.25wmf4) has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since October 16. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from October 21, and on all Wikipedias from October 23 (calendar).
- 10% of logged-out readers are getting pages from servers that run the HHVM tool. HHVM should make pages load faster. You can also test it as a Beta Feature. [5]
- If you add the same parameter twice in a template, it now puts the page in a tracking category. [6] [7]
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The Signpost: 22 October 2014
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Problems
- There was an issue with files from Commons on October 21. You could only see those with names between 140 and 159 characters by visiting Commons itself. [8]
- There was a problem with cut and paste in VisualEditor in Firefox. It was fixed quickly. [9]
- There was a problem with editing math in VisualEditor. It was fixed quickly. [10]
Software changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will now come to Wikipedia sites every Wednesday, instead of every Thursday. [11]
- The new version of MediaWiki (1.25wmf5) has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since October 23. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from October 28, and on all Wikipedias from October 29 (calendar).
- VisualEditor now uses autovalues for templates if they are in TemplateData. [12] [13] [14]
- VisualEditor's menu items now show their shortcuts beside them. [15]
- VisualEditor now opens faster when you click "edit". [16]
- The rules for plurals in translations changed in some languages. Interface translations are currently not being updated from translatewiki.net; this process will start again on November 6. [17]
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Re: SPI
Hi,
I've looked at the case you opened and it appears that the accounts are editing through an open proxy. I've blocked the IPs for a year, so that should help stem those specific proxies. However, if you want I can semi-protect your user page to prevent future occurrences. Just let me know. Best, Mike V • Talk 17:05, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
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The Signpost: 29 October 2014
- Featured content: Go West, young man
- In the media: Wikipedia a trusted source on Ebola; Wikipedia study labeled government waste; football biography goes viral
- Maps tagathon: Find 10,000 digitised maps this weekend
- Traffic report: Ebola, Ultron, and Creepy Articles
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Response
Sorry, no. The WikiBomb was an attempt to draw in new editors in areas in which Wikipedia is woefully underrepresented, and did a surprisingly good job of sticking to people covered in impeccable sources.
We need more articles on this stuff. Wikipedia has massively over-represented coverage of sports, television, and politics, because they are things that Wikipedia's fairly thin demographic understands in spades. Our coverage of history in areas like health and education sucks, and seeing people like you essentially deliberately sabotage efforts because you don't see the significance of pioneering women in a particular field or people who discover diseases is absolutely disgusting. Compare this to your one (1) (!) article contribution for the entirety of 2014 (Game X Change), which doesn't come close to the notability of this article. You should be ashamed of yourself. The Drover's Wife (talk) 13:39, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
- @The Drover's Wife: Please do not be incivil, and consider striking out your last sentence, that of "you should be ashamed of yourself". Calling me "disgusting" and resorting to ad hominem attacks such as pointing to my article contributions does not help your position. The only things that should matter about the article is whether it is notable, not Wikipedia:Righting great wrongs. Grognard Chess (talk) Ping when replying 13:49, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
- You're gleefully chasing off new editors with expertise that Wikipedia desperately needs for no good reason. You've notability tagged or tried to delete a swathe of articles with obvious claims to notability in areas where Wikipedia desperately needs more editors. These editors won't come back if their first experience on Wikipedia is having to have a huge argument over people that are flagrantly obviously notable in their fields of expertise. You need to stop biting the newbies, and as long as you behave as you currently are, you are the problem with Wikipedia. You are actively undermining the development of article content for no apparent reason apart from perhaps feeding your own ego. The Drover's Wife (talk) 13:53, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
- And you disrespect new editors who are looking at dedicating some of their time to writing content for Wikipedia when you force them into completely unnecessary debates about whether their work gets deleted. There are at least three editors who are unlikely to return to Wikipedia as a direct consequence of your behaviour, and to turn around and whine at me about respect is ironic to say the least. The Drover's Wife (talk) 13:55, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
- @The Drover's Wife: 5th uncivil comment towards me. Also, if an article is not notable, it should be deleted. Nothing else matters. Dismissing my arguments as whining and "feeding my ego" may work in your mind, but the WP:CIVIL policy disagrees with your arguments. Grognard Chess (talk) Ping when replying 14:00, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
- WP:BITE is a policy, too. You seem to enjoy roleplaying the enforcer in your own head, but I am interested in building an encyclopedia, and someone who repeatedly drives off specialist editors while contributing no content of his own is a serious problem in my book. The Drover's Wife (talk) 14:04, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
- @The Drover's Wife: [18], [19], [20], [21], [22], [23]. All uncivil edits. Grognard Chess (talk) Ping when replying 14:26, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
- (Redacted) The Drover's Wife (talk) 14:30, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
- @The Drover's Wife: [18], [19], [20], [21], [22], [23]. All uncivil edits. Grognard Chess (talk) Ping when replying 14:26, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
- WP:BITE is a policy, too. You seem to enjoy roleplaying the enforcer in your own head, but I am interested in building an encyclopedia, and someone who repeatedly drives off specialist editors while contributing no content of his own is a serious problem in my book. The Drover's Wife (talk) 14:04, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
- You're gleefully chasing off new editors with expertise that Wikipedia desperately needs for no good reason. You've notability tagged or tried to delete a swathe of articles with obvious claims to notability in areas where Wikipedia desperately needs more editors. These editors won't come back if their first experience on Wikipedia is having to have a huge argument over people that are flagrantly obviously notable in their fields of expertise. You need to stop biting the newbies, and as long as you behave as you currently are, you are the problem with Wikipedia. You are actively undermining the development of article content for no apparent reason apart from perhaps feeding your own ego. The Drover's Wife (talk) 13:53, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
For what it's worth, since you withdrew the AfD (and thank you!), Trove is a phenomenal resource for anything related to Australia prior to 1953: it's got just about every edition of every newspaper of significance these days. I will also say that the ADB article on Golding was unusually crap: I will absolutely stand by their calls as to who is notable enough for an article, but I found out far more about her notability in two pages of a Trove search than I did from their article. The Drover's Wife (talk) 16:11, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
- @The Drover's Wife: Civility problems still stand. Grognard Chess (talk) Ping when replying 16:12, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
No, I criticised your behaviour. I am now asking you nicely to stop harassing me. I consider this done, but if you persist in trying to bully me then I will be the one requesting that you be barred from interacting with me. The Drover's Wife (talk) 16:26, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
- @The Drover's Wife: I'm not the only one who thinks you are being uncivil... Grognard Chess (talk) Ping when replying 16:28, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent software changes
- The "Special:Cite" page is now called "Special:CiteThisPage". That way, you know it's to cite the page, not to add a reference. [24]
- You can no longer use the
insource:
keyword for text searches. It caused issues with the new search tool. It will come back later. [25] [26]
Problems
- There was a bug in VisualEditor with Internet Explorer. It hid tools like the link editor when you opened them. The bug was fixed on Monday. [27]
- Issues with the new search tool caused geo data code to show up on pages on Monday and Friday. The mobile "nearby" tool was also broken. The problem is now fixed. [28] [29] [30]
- HHVM caused server issues on Thursday. They are now fixed.
Software changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki (1.25wmf5) has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since October 29. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from November 4, and on all Wikipedias from November 5 (calendar).
- Some wikis have icons at the top of a page to show if it is protected or featured. Icons show up using CSS. You can now use the
<indicator>
tag in these templates instead to add the icons. [31] [32] - VisualEditor now tells you if you're editing a re-used reference. This helps you avoid changing it if you just want to add a new one. [33]
- The icons in VisualEditor's template editor tool for adding more fields are back, along with other fixes. [34] [35] [36] [37] [38]
- After November 6, all wikis will have the tool to edit TemplateData. [39] [40] [41]
Future changes
- The new search tool will come to the last wikis in the coming weeks. This includes Wikipedia in French, Chinese, German and English. [42]
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WikiCup 2014: The results
The 2014 WikiCup champion is Godot13 (submissions), who flew the flag of the Smithsonian Institution. This was Godot13's first WikiCup competition and, over the 10 months of the competition, he has produced (among other contributions) two featured lists and an incredible 292 featured pictures, including architectural photographs and scans of historical documents. Cwmhiraeth (submissions), 2012 and 2013 WikiCup champion, came in second, having written a large number of biology-related articles. Casliber (submissions), WikiCup finalist every year since 2010, finished in third.
A full list of our prize-winners follows:
- Godot13 (submissions) wins the prize for first place and the FP prize for 181 featured pictures in the final round.
- Cwmhiraeth (submissions) wins the prize for second place and the DYK prize for 65 did you knows in the final round.
- Casliber (submissions) wins the prize for third place and the FA prize for four featured articles in the final round.
- Czar (submissions) wins the prize for fourth place
- Sturmvogel 66 (submissions) wins a final 8 prize.
- Bloom6132 (submissions) wins a final 8 prize.
- 12george1 (submissions) wins a final 8 prize.
- ChrisGualtieri (submissions) wins the GA prize for 27 good articles in round 2 and the review prize for 28 good article reviews in round 1.
- Caponer (submissions) wins the FL prize for three featured lists in round 2.
- Sven Manguard (submissions) wins the FPo prize his work on featured portals.
- Figureskatingfan (submissions) wins the topic prize for a nine-article featured topic in round 3.
- ThaddeusB (submissions) wins the news prize for 28 in the news articles in round 3.
Congratulations to everyone who has been successful in this year's WikiCup, whether you made it to the final rounds or not, and a particular congratulations to the newcomers to the WikiCup who have participated this year. We warmly invite all of you to sign up for next year's competition. Discussions and polls concerning potential rules changes are also open, and all are welcome to participate. The WikiCup judges will be back in touch over the coming months, and we hope to see you all in the 2014 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk · contribs) The ed17 (talk · contribs) and Miyagawa (talk · contribs) 22:51, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
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I have reverted your closure, please give the afd discussion enough time and wait until a uninvolved administrator closes it, thanks Avono♂ (talk) 16:38, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- @Avono: Speedy keep rules disregard the normal amount of time for an AfD. That is why they are called speedy keeps. Since your nomination stated that it fulfilled one criteria of WP:NBOOK, which is what makes the book notable, I do not understand how your nomination advances an argument for deletion. Per the rules for speedy keep
I closed it. Grognard Chess (talk) Ping when replying 17:08, 6 November 2014 (UTC).
- I have nothing against the closure, but by voting on it you became involved in the discussion which is against the rules, I am just trying to follow procedure.:
An admin who is uninvolved and has not participated in the deletion discussion will assess the discussion for consensus to Keep, Delete, Merge, Redirect, or Transwiki the article. An editor in good standing who is not an administrator, and is also uninvolved, may close AfDs in certain circumstances; appropriate closures that non-admins may make are detailed at Wikipedia:Non-admin closure § Appropriate closures.
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Mesasage from User:JournalistAndrew
Hey Chess, I'm a student journalist working on a piece. Wondering if I could shoot you an email. Send me one and I can reply [email protected] — Preceding unsigned comment added by JournalistAndrew (talk • contribs) 17:22, November 6, 2014
- @JournalistAndrew: Moved your discussion to the talk page. Grognard Chess (talk) Ping when replying 02:23, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent software changes
- You may see a new tool on the mobile site of the English Wikipedia. It asks simple questions to make the article better. In the future, your answers will go to Wikidata. [43] [44]
- The MediaWiki API now shows information in a nice format. You can translate it in translatewiki.net. [45]
- Reminder: You can help fix file information on your wiki. It will help robots understand the information. After that, it will be easier for you to search files and re-use them.
- You can join two IRC chats this week to learn more about the file cleanup project. One will be on Wednesday at 18:00 (UTC) and the other on Thursday at 04:00 (UTC). You can ask questions during the chat if you need help to fix files on your wiki.
- You can see a list of files to fix on the Labs tool. You can report bugs and ask questions on the talk page.
Problems
- Wikimedia Labs was broken for a few hours on Thursday. It was due to a hardware problem. [46]
Software changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki (1.25wmf7) has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since November 5. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from November 11, and on all Wikipedias from November 12 (calendar).
- You can now use more editing tools for tables in VisualEditor. You can add rows and columns, merge cells, and edit table captions. [47] [48]
- The style and insert menus in the toolbar of VisualEditor now show fewer tools. This helps you see the most common tasks. You can see all items by clicking "More". [49]
- The way windows inside VisualEditor work has changed. VisualEditor should be faster and have fewer bugs. [50]
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WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - Issue 43
→ Issue 43 ←
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Quality as standard: a few Eurovision articles have been nominated for FA status and one is promoted to GA.
Let Junior Eurovision battle commence!
Project membership breaks through the 100 barrier.
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5590 | 20 | 1 | 4 | 109 |
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The Signpost: 12 November 2014
- In the media: Amazon Echo; EU freedom of panorama; Bluebeard's Castle
- Traffic report: Holidays, anyone?
- Featured content: Wikipedia goes to church in Lithuania
- WikiProject report: Talking hospitals
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Software changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki (1.25wmf8) has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since November 12. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from November 18, and on all Wikipedias from November 19 (calendar).
- The new search tool ("CirrusSearch") will be on the English Wikipedia from November 19. [51]
Move from Bugzilla to Phabricator
- The tool to track bugs will change on November 21.
- You won't be able to add or edit bugs between November 21 and November 24.
- You can make the change easier for you by creating your account.
- Bugzilla will be frozen after the change. You will see, edit and report bugs in Phabricator.
- You can join two IRC chats to learn more about the change. The chats will be on Tuesday, November 18 at 16:00 (UTC) and 23:00 UTC. [52]
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Copyright checks when performing AfC reviews
Hello Chess. This message is part of a mass mailing to people who appear active in reviewing articles for creation submissions. First of all, thank you for taking part in this important work! I'm sorry this message is a form letter – it really was the only way I could think of to covey the issue economically. Of course, this also means that I have not looked to see whether the matter is applicable to you in particular.
The issue is in rather large numbers of copyright violations ("copyvios") making their way through AfC reviews without being detected (even when easy to check, and even when hallmarks of copyvios in the text that should have invited a check, were glaring). A second issue is the correct method of dealing with them when discovered.
If you don't do so already, I'd like to ask for your to help with this problem by taking on the practice of performing a copyvio check as the first step in any AfC review. The most basic method is to simply copy a unique but small portion of text from the draft body and run it through a search engine in quotation marks. Trying this from two different paragraphs is recommended. (If you have any question about whether the text was copied from the draft, rather than the other way around (a "backwards copyvio"), the Wayback Machine is very useful for sussing that out.)
If you do find a copyright violation, please do not decline the draft on that basis. Copyright violations need to be dealt with immediately as they may harm those whose content is being used and expose Wikipedia to potential legal liability. If the draft is substantially a copyvio, and there's no non-infringing version to revert to, please mark the page for speedy deletion right away using {{db-g12|url=URL of source}}. If there is an assertion of permission, please replace the draft article's content with {{subst:copyvio|url=URL of source}}.
Some of the more obvious indicia of a copyvio are use of the first person ("we/our/us..."), phrases like "this site", or apparent artifacts of content written for somewhere else ("top", "go to top", "next page", "click here", use of smartquotes, etc.); inappropriate tone of voice, such as an overly informal tone or a very slanted marketing voice with weasel words; including intellectual property symbols (™,®); and blocks of text being added all at once in a finished form with no misspellings or other errors.
I hope this message finds you well and thanks again you for your efforts in this area. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:20, 18 November 2014 (UTC).
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