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April 2010

Reversion

That was a pretty quick reversion! How do people adopt pages, to be notified of changes? I want to build a site and I am in awe of wikipedia. EGreg (talk) 21:24, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

I have that page on my watchlist (many people watch the day's featured article), and I just happened to check at the time - but the Wikipedia site is good, yes ;-) Best regards -- Boing! said Zebedee 21:32, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

David Downes

Hi, would you mind having a look at talk:David Downes and reconsidering your message to User talk:174.112.192.100? Thanks ϢereSpielChequers 18:01, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

I've commented at Talk:David Downes -- Boing! said Zebedee 18:18, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

The Whitehouse (pub)

Great work on adding a photo! Lugnuts (talk) 08:56, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks :-) -- Boing! said Zebedee 08:59, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Registered to TOT - but check contributions.

I will have to call 3 users as 1 and 2 and 3.

I can't remember that I broke 3RR or not.

Can you check his contributions of ALL that you said about older edits? If he edited TVP1 or TVP2 or Polish TV related then it's not me. Also people who claimed to have a CAMBODIA satellite, it's 2.

1 (me) = Edit only Myanmar-TV-related articles. I wasn't on Wikipedia since March 2010.
2 = Edit TVP articles, he said his YouTube channel is ThaiBeyond. Looks like he is new to Wikipedia, but really I see that he started editing since late 2008.
3 = American boy, he said his youtube ch. is postlegends. He is on Wikipedia since mid-2009. He edits European TV, He disappeared from Wikipedia now.--125.25.26.25 (talk) 22:04, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Please discuss this on the relevant article Talk pages, not here, because I'm not the only one involved - I'm watching the articles and will see it, but other people won't be watching my Talk page and won't see it here. -- Boing! said Zebedee 22:15, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

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Indian cities

Boing, Hindi transliterations are not at all standard for Indian cities. See Mumbai, Chennai, Kolkata, Pune, Bengaluru, Baroda, all very prominent Indian cities but none has a Hindi transliteration in their intro. Thanks. 70.112.74.183 (talk) 03:28, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, yes, it looks like you're right. It's there for New Delhi, Varanasi, Agra, Ahmedabad, and a lot of others, but they're in states where I guess Hindi is the/a major language - OK, I withdraw my objection to your change. Best regards -- Boing! said Zebedee 09:45, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi :)

Saw your comments below my support vote in the RfA for Elockid. Just wanted to leave a note mentioning I appreciated the words... Thanks and best regards. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 16:35, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Cheers - some people do seem to get entrenched into single-minded positions at RfA, but it's much better to see it all as a friendly chat, I think :-) -- Boing! said Zebedee 10:15, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

True :) Couldn't agree less... Take care and see ya later. Best ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 13:00, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Nattokinase

Hello- I am attempting to update the entry for nattokinase as the current entry is not entirely true or complete. According to the curent entry, Nattokinase is used as an aspirin substitute. I will tell you that it is not. Aspirin and Nattokinase act on two completely different mechanisms are could hardly be interchangeable. Nattokinase also, while not an OTC drug but a dietary supplement does in fact have research confirming cardiovascular and cerebrovascular benefit in humans contrary to the current entry. This is misleading the readers of Wikipedia. I represent Nattokinase's discoverer, Dr. Sumi and the chief U.S. nattokinase researcher. I am a health care professional myself very familiar with the enzyme nattokinase.

I would appreciate direction on submitting nattokinase information. The last update I provided had zero commercial value and is fully referenced to peer reviewed Journals, including the Lancet. If Wikipedia entries are to be written by experts for trust & value, then I see no reason why the nattokinase overview provided would be rejected for the current entry which is somewhat inaccurate and studies used inconclusive.

Thank you- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dryerson (talk • contribs) 22:12, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I've replied at Talk:Nattokinase, which is where this discussion should be - please continue over there -- Boing! said Zebedee 11:09, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

I have to ask.

You have, without a doubt, the most awesome username I have ever encountered. Does it have a backstory, or a literary reference I've missed, or is it just random? GJC 02:36, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Very kind, thanks - you'll find the answer at The Magic Roundabout. Time for bed ;-) -- Boing! said Zebedee 10:24, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

See, I knew nothing whatsoever about that show, and I consider myself a great lover of children's television (although I'll admit, this was substantially before my time.) So now, I'm off to wallow in various links and what-not, til it's "time for bed" here. A hearty "Boing!" to you, then, and thanks much for the pointer--I have hereby managed to complete my "something new learned today" requirement. GJC 00:34, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Review

Can you review the article National Broadcasting Network (Thailand)? I will try to help that American boy.--180.180.108.170 (talk) 15:37, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

I have reverted it all, because it is all unsourced (and some of it is blatantly incorrect). -- Boing! said Zebedee 16:27, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Maybe we should help together - I find sources and you check what's wrong. When I was young I don't like to watch TV, but now I like it very much!--180.180.108.170 (talk) 16:53, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm happy to help, but I'm not going to do your work for you. I suggest you read WP:RS and get to understand what Wikipedia considers to be a reliable source. Then if you find a reference, check it against WP:RS, and if you think it passes, I'll be happy to review it for you - providing you explain to me how you think it does actually satisfy WP:RS -- Boing! said Zebedee 17:01, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

PS - I suggest you first try to find a reliable source to attest to the existence of an organization called "National Broadcasting Network" in Thailand. -- Boing! said Zebedee 17:11, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

PPS: I strongly recommend you register a user name - it's completely anonymous, and really would help us to understand who we're talking to. -- Boing! said Zebedee 17:28, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

I read WP:RS many times, don't let me read again.

OK, so how about phase 2 now - actually pay some attention to it and act upon it?

I have found five long time ago. 2 from the same website and one more from different website and 2 more from Thai Wikipedia. But only three reliable sources and NOT a blog. But the first 2 is unavailable now. Another one, I can't remember where.

I really don't care what you have found in the past but have now lost.

How much references do I need for a reliable article?

Try starting with some - so far you have provided none.

OK - You don't need to search for it. I will search it myself with more than just Google. I will use some more search engines.

I see that 12 years old boy told you that registering will make him get blocked for being sock puppet - And I don't want to get him blocked or get myself blocked. Being anonymous is better.--180.180.108.170 (talk) 19:54, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

And as I said to him, registering a username will not get you blocked for being a sockpuppet - it is perfectly acceptable to stop editing from IP addresses and start editing from a username. Further, registering a username will get you far more goodwill from other editors - there really is a limit to how long I can be bothered trying to distinguish between "The American kid", "The 12 year old", "The guy with the Cambodian satellite", etc, and trying to work out whether you all actually exist or are part of a single-user hoax, and I will fairly soon tire of trying to talk to you at all. -- Boing! said Zebedee 20:10, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

New

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Talkback

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~NERDYSCIENCEDUDE (✉ message • changes) 12:56, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

It looks like you did miss a few things. ~NERDYSCIENCEDUDE (✉ message • changes) 13:36, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Apparently so, yes, thanks -- Boing! said Zebedee 14:05, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Chnages in ST ANNES HGH SCHOOL

All those listed in ST ANNES HIGH School Notable alumni are in effect and not a bluff. Incase you feel it is, try seeking more clarity by WEB sites and contacts DO not simply revert changes. We are proud to be an ex student of ST ANNES. unlike you probably who coudnt make it to top lists... SO dude stay clear from editing and make your self one portal for 24/7 changes and looks made for urself... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.22.58.2 (talk) 14:59, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi. They need to be notable in accordance with WP:N. -- Boing! said Zebedee 15:11, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

They also need to be sourced per WP:V, and none of them are. Please stop disrupting this article. You've already been blocked for edit warring on it, and you've started again. Aiken ♫ 15:39, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Sigh, and again - I see another block in his future -- Boing! said Zebedee 16:22, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

And again - now you're a vandal :-) Aiken ♫ 16:41, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Ooh, I don't know if I can live with the shame :-) -- Boing! said Zebedee 16:43, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Rollback

Hi - I've added the flag. You may want to see my comments at WP:PERM. Pedro :  Chat  22:04, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Great, thanks - I've read your note too -- Boing! said Zebedee 23:51, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

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Interesting

It will be interesting to see your proof that Boyce is not a sock-puppet of Dawkins. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.151.242.114 (talk) 16:31, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi. I have no opinion on the issue - I removed your comment simply because it was out of place on the User page of the person you are accusing. If you think you have uncovered a sockpuppet, the onus is on you to prove it, not on others to disprove it - you should take your evidence to WP:SPI and file a report -- Boing! said Zebedee 16:36, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

About User:Tw3435

I was awared of the annoying behavior of User:Tw3435 — see their edit history. Someone said on his page that it is a vandal bot. May I request you to block that suspicious account? --Octra Bond (talk) 09:32, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi. I'm not an admin, so I'm not able to block accounts - you should file a report at WP:AIV -- Boing! said Zebedee 09:41, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

That's all right. I just know that he was already blocked infinitely. Thanks for your patrolling--Octra Bond (talk) 10:02, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

I said that. I believe that if you blocked it can continue since the script is in his computer, not on Wikipedia. But it's not a vandal bot. It is a move bot. For better, why don't you make a program to stop the script?--118.172.193.0 (talk) 11:36, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Me? I'm not and admin and I have nothing to do with making programs or bots or scripts (or whatever). A script on a person's computer cannot move pages without being logged in as a registered user, so I think blocking is sufficient -- Boing! said Zebedee 11:44, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

I assume he is logged on with the program. But he told me heself that the script is located in his computer.--118.172.193.0 (talk) 11:47, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

He's blocked, so he (or any script on his computer) cannot edit and cannot move pages -- Boing! said Zebedee 11:54, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

An account is blocked. That means its owner is not able to edit or move (rename) any pages via the account. Using script via the blocked account is also prohibit by default. However, we are technically not able to halt the remote program because it runs on its side unless getting permission or breaking through security. I am a programmer (maybe like him). I used to create bot for cleaning up Wikipedia so I know well. Please do not blame for something that is impossible. --Octra Bond (talk) 12:41, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

OK. He is from Myanmar. (That's not related but FYI). He already said that he controls 105 pages (I don't know what are they). When someone changes the title, he will move automatically in 3 minutes.--118.172.193.0 (talk) 12:47, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Well he can't any more, BECAUSE HE IS NOW BLOCKED! Now please stop bothering me with this nonsense. -- Boing! said Zebedee 12:50, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

You will delete all my posts - but can I ask you?

I will delete all threads about Midnight RT in MRTV's talkpage?--118.172.193.0 (talk) 11:30, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

No, you should not delete content from Talk pages - it is all kept as a historical record. -- Boing! said Zebedee 11:39, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

That's OK. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.172.193.0 (talk) 11:46, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Create a new page

Please create a new page with Template:inuse in the page and I will edit iself--118.172.193.0 (talk) 11:45, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

• The page I will let you create is i-mobile. Due to tecnhical restrictions please put the name change thing.--118.172.193.0 (talk) 11:48, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

You should either register a username of your own and create it yourself, or request it at WP:AFC -- Boing! said Zebedee 11:53, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

I have requested. Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/i-mobile--118.172.193.0 (talk) 12:42, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

fun name

your name is fun. mine is boring. I might change my name. thanks for the idea. Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 19:06, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks - and you're welcome -- Boing! said Zebedee 19:10, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Suomi Finland - Not boring! I think its funny too!--125.25.226.24 (talk) 14:53, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Whisperback

Hello. You have a new message at Ged UK's talk page. GedUK  06:52, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Polish rouge

Someone said Polish rouge is fake but Khmer rouge is real... Nazi Germany is really invaded Poland... but really...

• Polish Rouge is real happened on April 17, 1975 in Warsaw
• Khmer Rouge is 10000% fake, only western people (I assume Polish) lied to make people untrust Cambodians.
• Nazi Germany is faked by Germany making the fake maps for American and German people to thought that Germany is very cool :)--125.25.226.24 (talk) 14:35, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

What has any of that got to do with your changes to Channel 7 (Thailand)? -- Boing! said Zebedee 14:37, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Because I have Cambodia satellite but I don't see "Chhorng Chet"--125.25.226.24 (talk) 14:51, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Khmer rouge is real, Nazi Germany is real and destroyed the TVP, Polish rouge is fake (why come on same day?)--125.25.35.118 (talk) 15:08, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Poles and YouTube user ReddoFarukon - Poles is Polish peoples, and there is one Polish IP editor 188.47.xxx.xxx keeps vandalizing articles and I assume he is ReddoFarukon--125.25.233.157 (talk) 15:14, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

But that is unrelated to the change you made, which was not the removal of vandalism and had nothing whatsoever to do with Poland or Polish people! If you personally can't see Channel 7 on your Cambodian satellite, then maybe others can - and even if nobody can, that is no reason to blank the whole section! Now, if you wish to make changes to the article, please discuss them on the article's Talk page, not here. And if you can't edit constructively, just leave it alone. -- Boing! said Zebedee 15:33, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, this is unrelated. No matter it's available on Cambodian satellite or not but I just want to ask you as I was adding about Polish rouge into Telewizja Polska, and anonymous Polish editor come and revert, do you know if Polish rouge exists or not?--125.25.233.157 (talk) 15:39, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Discuss it on the relevant article's Talk page, not here! -- Boing! said Zebedee 15:40, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Boing, you might be interested in this User talk:125.25.10.148 IP as well... seem to be fairly similar patterns, same range. Shadowjams (talk) 01:19, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, it looks like another one in the TOT range in Bangkok - I'll check what he's been up to -- Boing! said Zebedee 02:09, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the revert

Thanks for reverting vandalism on my user page. I think it's the first time this has happened to me! ~EdGl ★ 00:19, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

My pleasure -- Boing! said Zebedee 00:27, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

re: Salary cap

Hi Boing!,
It took me longer to find the 'not-quite-right tag' than it did for you to change it to the right one!
I just wish all editors would provide needed refs when they add text! Aarrgghh! <plaintive cry of resigned annoyance>
{{Refimprovesect}} rather than {{Unreferenced section}}? Ok, I'll try to remember that. Thanks!
Happy Editing!--220.101.28.25 (talk) 09:22, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

No problem. The important thing is that it got a tag in the first place, so your effort was certainly worthwhile - my change was really just cosmetic. -- Boing! said Zebedee 09:35, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks...

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my talk page. Regards. Leaky Caldron 18:38, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

My pleasure. We seem to have a fair number of nutters around today - the moon is close to full :-) -- Boing! said Zebedee 18:41, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Dale Winton

Fair enough, I forgot it said 'Born...'. Tend to get a bit quick when Anons remove links without explanation. Bevo74 (talk) 19:49, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that's understandable - best regards -- Boing! said Zebedee 19:51, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Graham Ovenden

See Talk:Graham_Ovenden#New_police_enquiry.2C_April_2010. Ty 22:39, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the pointer -- Boing! said Zebedee 22:42, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Some Gratitude For You

Thanks for the help with the minor vandalism to my page. You know that's the first time that's happened to me? Nice to get some recognition I guess. Least I know that guy was listening. Dunno how you caught it. Stagyar Zil Doggo (talk) 04:38, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi. No problem - there are some out there who seem to just pick on people at random like that. I happened to notice one change to your page in the Recent Changes list, and when I saw it was vandalism, I just kept watching his contributions -- Boing! said Zebedee 09:14, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

So it is possible?

I want to ask you that is it possible to leave Vietnam Television like this, and make no edits to it until he got enough reliable sources? I mean that will the page being protected again?

Discuss it on the article's Talk page, not here! -- Boing! said Zebedee 12:34, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Archive

I'm trying to archive--125.25.11.17 (talk) 13:47, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Well don't - leave that to an admin -- Boing! said Zebedee 13:48, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

(Actually, technically, it doesn't need an admin - but it does need to be left to someone with sufficient clue -- Boing! said Zebedee 14:12, 26 April 2010 (UTC) )

May 2010

Vandals

Hey, when you come across a vandal, such as 82.25.221.4, who is obviously making a nuisance of themselves straight after a block, you can normally report them to AIV straight away rather than give them more freebies. This guy is obviously determined to make himself a pain in the arse so I've reblocked him. Keep up the good work! Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:22, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Pleased to hear he's blocked - and thanks :-) -- Boing! said Zebedee 20:24, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

article for deletion

someone removed the article for deletion tag for Westernised Chinese language. Thoughts? --71.111.229.19 (talk) 01:31, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I withdrew my nomination and it was closed. -- Boing! said Zebedee 07:16, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm renominating the article for somewhat different reasons.--71.111.229.19 (talk) 10:30, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

OK, I'll take a look -- Boing! said Zebedee 11:08, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

...

My problem was that you didn't make an request for deletion page. --Albanian222 (talk) 13:58, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I did make the page - you have already commented on it -- Boing! said Zebedee 14:00, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Dandelion

I know I have to delete the dandelion information, I was just trying to use that template because I do not know how to write in the code. Haven't finished my work yet... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Klburns (talk • contribs) 20:03, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

OK, that's cool - good luck with it -- Boing! said Zebedee 23:31, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

I added notable stuff to GfxEditor page

I have added some notable stuff to the GfxEditor page, please check it out. TRSI page need to be updated with reference to GfxEditor, because member of group TRSI is the developer of GfxEditor web-application. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mersicainc (talk • contribs) 04:19, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, but there's no need to notify me here - I have the page on my watchlist and I'll see any changes. I have added further comments to the AfD page. -- Boing! said Zebedee 09:40, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Bir Tawil

Thank you for your Information. I have found Somerset articles in German about Nikoku. I cannot say why, but you are right, I cannot find any articles in English in Google News. Wiki source: tried to edit it and was not able to, so that I think that the government created this One. By the way here is a link: [[1]]. So now again the question: you found not a single word about Nikoku on the internet? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.173.74.158 (talk) 01:25, 9 May 2010 (UTC) Thank you for your information. I will be interested to share it with other people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.173.74.158 (talk) 01:37, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

(Discussion at User talk:84.173.74.158 -- Boing! said Zebedee 12:09, 20 May 2010 (UTC))

Moutray...

...based on their reply to the FisherQueen situation, I was prepared to remove talkpage access for the duration of the block. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I think he was pretty close to it - his reply to FisherQueen was not acceptable. But he seems to have calmed down a bit now and does actually appear to be understanding at least some of what he's been doing wrong, so I'd be tempted to give him another chance myself -- Boing! said Zebedee 15:45, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Electrical vs Electronic Engineering in the Computer Engineering Field

In one of your edits on the Computer Engineering page, you insist on writing that CE is a mix of Electronic Engineering and CS, and that Electrical Engineering is a different thing. Well, it may be true to some extent in Europe, but it definitely isn't true in North America. In US and Canada, electronics is the main part of Electrical Engineering and the term Electronic Engineering simply doesn't exist.

As a side note, I am a graduate of electrical engineering from Sherbrooke University (in Quebec, Canada) and I can tell you that among the 120 credits I gathered for my degree, only 3 were done in the field of power (energy transmission, motors, etc). All the rest concerned the information aspect of electrical engineering (electronics, signal processing, telecommunication, microprocessors, etc).

That's why in Canada and USA, degrees like the B.Eng. in Electrical and Computer Engineering are so common. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.203.214.148 (talk) 06:33, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Well, I wasn't so much "insisting" on anything (and I didn't actually write anything in the article myself), I just reverted a change that wasn't really explained properly (in either the edit summary or the Talk page). As Wikipedia is a worldwide thing and not USA/Canada-centric (and not UK/Europe-centric either, of course), then changing it from one to the other is equally inaccurate. I'd suggest that both terms are included, specifying the geographical differences, rather than just changing it to be American/Canadian. Best regards -- Boing! said Zebedee 08:41, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

I've modified Computer engineering now to use both terms in a geographically neutral way -- Boing! said Zebedee 08:48, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Supergrass

when can i change it from present to past? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.57.189.123 (talk) 22:17, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Read the article and see if you can find out when their final tour ends, and you should then be able to work it out yourself -- Boing! said Zebedee 22:20, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism on Gavin Menzies pages

Dear User,

Thank you for your good faith edits but as you must know the links on Gavin Menzies pages were deleted by some vandals without due justification. As such the links to those original pages should be restored

Thank You! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.68.249.69 (talk) 22:21, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

If you disagree with the changes, discuss them on the Talk page - but do not edit war, and do not leave the article in a state in which it has links that link back to itself -- Boing! said Zebedee 22:24, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

No, due to the fact these deletions and changes were unjustifiably made without logical reason, the article and links should be restored and returned to it's original form temporarily, and then discussions can continue on whether or not to delete or change —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.68.249.69 (talk) 22:26, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Then resolve that issue FIRST before adding back the links, because if you add back the links first they are circular! -- Boing! said Zebedee 22:29, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

And another thing, we are not vandals and we are NOT edit warring. Check the history and you see it is the other users who continually delete without just cause and post derogatory libelious statement on Gavin Menzies page, which technically is a Biography. And as such it must conform to Wikipedia's official policy on Biographies, that they must not be libelious against the person.

You should check out the vandalism and bigoted edit warring committed by ClovisPt and the vandalism and hostiles messages sent to me by John Smith's

Those pages that were deleted were unjustifiably deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.68.249.69 (talk) 22:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Repeatedly reverting each other's edits IS edit-warring! I am not taking sides here - all I am asking you to do is stop leaving the article in a nonsensical state in which it has links that link back to itself - sort out your disputes FIRST, and then only put those links back when they link to separate articles! If you succeed in getting the original articles reinstated, then put the links back AFTERWARDS! -- Boing! said Zebedee 22:41, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

As I explained before (but for some reason you decided to remove my messages from your talk page), no articles have been deleted - they have been redirected. And you've threatened to have me blocked (for some reason), as well as stating that even if you were blocked (presumably for breaking the rules) you'd just create more accounts - so please don't set yourself out as some sort of victim here. That said if you would use the talk pages it would be more constructive. John Smith's (talk) 22:44, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

When I said to use the talk page, I was hoping you'd be constructive. Instead you've jumped on a soapbox with your header "The Links to the 1421 and 1434 articles have been deleted by vandals who are trying to suppress this information from public". John Smith's (talk) 22:46, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Do you think the two of you (and anyone else involved) could take this over there, rather than arguing here on my Talk page please? I take no side in the dispute - I just request that the article is not left in a half-state with links that link back to itself -- Boing! said Zebedee 22:58, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

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the plot or summary of Two Men and a Wardrobe roman polanski film is wrong it has nothing to do with this given in this wiki

On a sunny day, two men with a three-door wardrobe come out of a sea. The wardrobe seems to chain the two men together as they struggle with this piece of furniture through the beach and then throughout a city. There is no acceptance of them in the world--the by passers are either scared of them or hostile towards them. Finally, they arrive back at a beach and then disappear in the sea.

It deals with perceptions of the same thing by different people, how they react, and why

It is considered an allegory which illustrates how a relationship between two friends causes them trouble in everyday life. The two men always carry a wardrobe, but when other people see them carrying it, they run away or try to get rid of the two men, as if they were afraid of the wardrobe. Or is it something else?

please remove this nonsense.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.169.136.64 (talk) 21:19, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm not qualified to judge, but it seems to reasonably match what it says at IMDB, here. Now that might be wrong, but if you think it is, it's best if you discuss it on the Talk page first and present some sources to show a more accurate plot summary -- Boing! said Zebedee 21:27, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

I've edited it now to be a simple factual summary based on what I can find at a couple of review sites, and have left it with no analysis -- Boing! said Zebedee 21:40, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk:The Number 23

Welcome to Wikipedia! I am glad to see you are interested in discussing a topic. However, as a general rule, talk pages such as Talk:The Number 23 are for discussion related to improving the article, not general discussion about the topic. If you have specific questions about certain topics, consider visiting our reference desk and asking them there instead of on article talk pages. Thank you. 71.77.20.119 (talk) 00:38, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Well, thanks for the egg-sucking lesson, but I'm not interested in discussing any topics and I'm not asking any questions - I just reverted your removal of some very old Talk page content, as I don't think you should be refactoring other people's old comments. It's years old now, and if you're worried about it cluttering up the page then it should probably be archived rather than just removed - but I'm not really bothered enough to argue about it. -- Boing! said Zebedee 01:35, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Also, don't template the regulars. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐) 01:41, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that too - thanks :-) -- Boing! said Zebedee 01:44, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Why did you template me? How do you define a "regular"? 71.77.20.119 (talk) 02:40, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

It's generally taken to mean registered users who have been around a good while and have a lengthy track record - but I'm not really bothered as I'm happy to assume you were acting in good faith, as indeed I was. Best regards -- Boing! said Zebedee 02:43, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

I was actually referring to the IP templating BSZ. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐) 02:45, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Smartstim

Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:HalJor —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.149.232.170 (talk) 11:33, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Please discuss this on the article's Talk page at Talk:Erotic electrostimulation, and not on a multitude of individual User Talk pages -- Boing! said Zebedee 11:57, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

no discuss on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:HalJor as per WP protocol as this was the first mod involved. If you don't know how to mod, don't mod! 95.149.232.170 (talk) 12:46, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Well, firstly, I'm not a "mod" (and I'm not a rocker either). Secondly, there are no hard and fast rules as to the best place to hold such discussions, but consensus does seem to suggest that for article-related discussions the article's Talk page is generally preferred, as most people who might be interested won't know to look at other user pages - so I suggested it only for simplicity and ease of visibility. And thirdly, you really could do with reading WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL. Best regards -- Boing! said Zebedee 13:14, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Gjakova

Why did you revert Gjakova? That's not appreciated. 97% of the population calls it Gjakova. I can tell you that article is a joke by the persistence of some troll editors to push the Serbian POV. Please provide a good reasoning next time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arianit (talk • contribs) 15:32, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi. In September/October 2009 there was a request to change the name, at Talk:Đakovica#Requested_move, but there was no consensus to change it, which means you can't change the name. If you think there would be a consensus to change it now, please do feel free to raise a new request on the Talk page. (But if you do, I'd suggest you leave off accusing people who disagree with you of being "troll editors to push the Serbian POV", and try to assume good faith) -- Boing! said Zebedee 15:47, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and there was a previous request to rename it in August 2009, at Talk:Đakovica#Requested_move.2C_August_2009, which also did not achieve a consensus -- Boing! said Zebedee 15:54, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Of course there won't be a consensus with the trolls pushing Serb POV around. But ask yourself, is it logical? Do you want to be the one enforcing such ridiculous policy of some Serb editors forcing to use Serbian names for a 97% Albanian town? Wikipedia policy has turned into a kafkesque maze without any bases on reality on the ground. I ask you to reflect rather than blindly cite policy and "consensus". Arianit (talk) 18:10, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi. My idea of logical isn't really relevant here, because I have no more power to override consensus than anyone else. I also do think that there will be occasions where consensus gets it wrong - who knows, had I known of it at the time, I might have supported that past request to change the name myself. But I really don't see any alternative to consensus - if you or I could personally change something against consensus, then why not everyone else? And then what would there be to prevent non-stop edit wars everywhere? I think the consensus approach is what has made Wikipedia plausible at all, even if it is imperfect, and for it to continue to work I think we have to accept it even when it goes against us -- Boing! said Zebedee 18:24, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Central World collapse

Your link is bad in the ref. My phone rang and you edited my effort and now the ref goes to a bad link?? ~~WPPilot

Ah, OK - I'll see what I can do (the original link was to the Breaking News page, which won't be much use for long) -- Boing! said Zebedee 20:14, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, it works OK for me -- Boing! said Zebedee 20:15, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which passed with 99 support, 9 oppose, and 2 neutral. Your support was much appreciated, and your username always brings a smile to my face ;)

Regards -- Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 17:01, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

You're most welcome - and thank you for volunteering for front-line duties -- Boing! said Zebedee 19:17, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

		The Userpage Shield
		Many thanks for reverting the attack on my userpage. :) Regards, Orphan Wiki 10:59, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

My pleasure -- Boing! said Zebedee 11:04, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

JP

Good job reverting that vandal. I saw your AIV report but only after I'd blocked him myself. I just wanted to say it's probably not a good idea to quote edit summaries like that. I've gone and deleted them from the article's history now and I'd delete them from AIV but it's probably not worth it now the report's been cleared. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:55, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Ah, yes, that's a very good point - I kinda forgot that would end up with them kept in AIV, associated with the subject. Oops! -- Boing! said Zebedee 18:04, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Date formats

All the Canadian bio pages, e.g. Tricia Helfer, Grace Park, and Enrico Colantoni have their DOB in the month-day-year format 72.193.122.5 (talk) 10:50, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I'm not disagreeing. I just pointed out that the template can handle it, and you don't need to remove it and do it manually - just use "mf=yes" -- Boing! said Zebedee 10:52, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Actually, the date format should not be changed - WP:DATEVAR is specific about this regarding Canadian subjects. And not all the Canadian bio pages follow American DOB order e.g. Michael Bublé, Alanis Morissette, Wilfrid Laurier, etc. Dl2000 (talk) 00:35, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Ah, "Articles related to Canada may use either format consistently" - I'd missed that. Many thanks for pointing it out. -- Boing! said Zebedee 00:43, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Youre welc

And I also took the liberty of messaging that user too regarding WP:V. Cheers (: —Tommy2010 18:59, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Cool :-) -- Boing! said Zebedee 19:18, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

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Recent reversions

I understand your opinion. At least 3 editors have previously discussed with the user the nature of appropriate sources. There may not be consensus, but 3 editors to 1 seems appropriate to revert. Thank you for your time. 66.177.182.247 (talk) 11:53, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

If it is controversial, you must not make your change without consensus, and you must not edit-war (see WP:3RR) -- Boing! said Zebedee 11:58, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

If the user adds the material without consensus and ignoring guidelines on proper sourcing, it seems reasonable to remove the content. 66.177.182.247 (talk) 12:05, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Not if there are other editors who disagree with you, no. A valid response would be to mark it "{{citation needed}}" and then hold a discussion on the Talk page to gain consensus. As there appears to be a number of editors disagreeing with your removal (Walter Görlitz, Tubby23, and me), you must not just enter into an edit war with them - the WP:3RR rule is quite firm on that, and people who do more than 3 reversion in 24 hours are very likely to be blocked -- Boing! said Zebedee 12:11, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I should add that I have filed a WP:3RR report, at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. I see no point continuing this discussion if you are adamant you will not comply with Wikipedia's rules regarding consensus and that you will not adhere to WP:3RR, so we'll have to leave it to an admin to decide -- Boing! said Zebedee 12:14, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Sounds fine to me. I have actually tried to comply with consensus and education of policy, and it looks like Tubby23 and you had actually reverted the edits without knowing the full history, so I stand by the reversions. Take care!! 66.177.182.247 (talk) 12:30, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Firstly, you should not act on your personal assumptions of what I or others have or have not read. Secondly, whatever your opinion or your personal judgment of my and others' edits, you still don't get a right to override consensus - if you disagree with us (even if we turn out to be wrong), you must discuss it and not edit-war! -- Boing! said Zebedee 14:04, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

I got this one wrong - I've offered an apology at User_talk:66.177.182.247#Apology -- Boing! said Zebedee 17:27, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Your apology was gracious and honorable, but unnecessary. I knew I was violating 3RR but did not know how else to proceed. Generally I don't like to break a rule even if it is to correct the breaking of a more important rule, and CIreland and others have given me a great education on a better way.

I also apologize to you for my earlier assumptions. I should not have assumed that you were not familiar with the earlier talk page discussions and my recent IP change and the corresponding small history of edits may have contributed. You were right to correct me.

Finally, I greatly appreciate your offer to watch for further attempts to add the contentious material. Similar material was added to Chuck_Smith_(pastor) and I have reverted that, as well.

Take care!! 66.177.182.247 (talk) 19:43, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

?

They are not the same and never were. Do not be with them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.120.188.179 (talk) 00:54, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

What? -- Boing! said Zebedee 00:59, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

re Nakamura89 @ Larkhall

I was going to drop Nakamura89 (talk · contribs) a 'message' but you beat me to it (again?). FYI I have also made a post at Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard HERE. (I dont know what that IP 72.120.188.179 above is on about either, but somehow it seems like good advice. Depends on who "them" are.) Regards, --220.101.28.25 (talk) 01:33, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry if I was a bit trigger-happy there! And you're right about the above - being with them can be risky (especially if they're not the same) ;-) Best regards -- Boing! said Zebedee 10:15, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

No wucken furries. So long as they are suitably chastised and punished. Well, maybe not. Blocking will do, for now, but one can dream! Their edits and summaries have been revdeled too. What does annoy me is when I try to revert a choice bit of vandalism, it appears to work, but I find I don't get the 'credit', probably beaten by an editor with a faster Internet link! Such is Life! Enjoy your WikiBreak! ps. You ain't been anywhere till you visit Oz! I am 220.101.28.25 (talk) ^Contribs10:29, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh yes, Oz is definitely on the list - we have friends in several places, and we'll head there within the next year or two for sure :-) -- Boing! said Zebedee 20:14, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Developing yet another countervandalism collaboration tool

Hi. I see that you are actively reverting vandalism. Would you be interested to give it a test run to a a Web 2.0 countervandalism collaboration tool that I develop? It's here: http://wpcvn.com/ The site is supposed to be intuitive. Can you try using it, patrol a few recent changes and give me some feedback? --Dc987 (talk) 05:39, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi. Sure - I'll be happy to have a play with it. I'm a bit busy over the next couple of days, but I'll give it a go during the week -- Boing! said Zebedee 10:32, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, need to break off for a couple of weeks for Real Life stuff - will try it out when I'm back -- Boing! said Zebedee 21:28, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

When you're back

send a message —Tommy2010 22:40, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

New message! in your email inbox. —Tommy2010 13:15, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

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Thank you

Thank you!

Boing! said Zebedee - Thank for your participation and support in my RfA.

I can honestly say that your comments and your trust in me are greatly appreciated.

Please let me know if you ever have any suggestions for me as an editor, or comments based on my admin actions.

Thank you!  7  15:35, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

My pleasure - thank you for offering to serve -- Boing! said Zebedee 20:10, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Jeffrey Mall

Curious what the "one single issue" is that you refer to in your comments. I'm a little behind on my wikidrama reading.--~TPW 01:44, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I'd rather not risk any possible drama extending here to my Talk page - but please feel free to drop me an email -- Boing! said Zebedee 10:32, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Understood.--~TPW 11:17, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

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I am curious as to what it means. Homework2 ^TalkWhat I do! 16:21, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

You'll find the answer here :-) Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 07:35, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Lol. That's pretty funny. Homework2 ^TalkWhat I do! 15:01, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

User:TurkishKhan

Well spotted - non-free images of TurkishKhan. I found a couple of them last night before going to bed but wanted to find some of the sources, which I prefer to do but have found for some of them now, so I left them until this morning but you got to them first. ww2censor (talk) 20:16, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Tracking down other uses of the images was great work - nicely done! I think what you have uncovered is probably enough to make all of his images unreliable and unusable Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 07:34, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

It's an ongoing problem that needs constant attention and more editors involved who understand the copyright issues. Have you joined in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Images and Media's Great Copyvio Purge? Cheers ww2censor (talk) 15:23, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry I haven't had time to get involved - I've had a busy month and have been on a partial Wikibreak. I'll try to get involved some more if I can, when I have a bit more time in the future. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:26, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

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Supergrass

Heh, after weeks of trying to change it to "were", our friend at 122.xxx didn't actually manage to be the one to make the change! --Cameron Scott (talk) 07:29, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Hehe, no, he was blocked at the crucial time :-) Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 07:33, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

lol funny stuff guys. cheers. it was very cheeky of you to block me on the day i had been waiting for 4 months!!!!!

I forgive you though :)

It was just coincidence - honest :-) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:53, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

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Toyota Camry Hybrid

Hello. You were extremely helpful in the Zubaty affair, and I thought your expertise would be helpful in the current discussion at Toyota Camry Hybrid regarding whether to merge the article with the larger Camry article. I have stepped back for a few days of cool-down period, but I would like to see what cooler, neutral heads might have to say regarding the current debate. Note that I am not asking you as a subject-matter expert, but rather as a Wikipedia rules expert. Many thanks. Ebikeguy (talk) 16:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi. I'm flattered by the request, but I'm not sure if I'll have enough time over the next few days to contribute anything of value - I'll try to do so if I can -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:54, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

RfA

Thank you very much for your contribution to my Rfa. I have made a comment about it at User talk:JamesBWatson#Your Request for Adminship which you are, of course, very welcome to read if you wish to. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:22, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

File:Http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Wikipedia motivator.jpg/400px-Wikipedia motivator.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.57.177.86 (talk) 12:42, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Ode to Zebedee

I would just like to voice my thanks to Wikipedia moderator Zebedee for his level of professionalism in dealing with a nationality dispute regarding a band. fully recommend his services to wikipedia. I congratulate you,, Zebedee, and hope to make your life much more easier in the future :)

thanks,

Chris

if you wish that I no longer visit wikipedia, I will take your word. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.57.177.86 (talk) 13:32, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi Chris, thanks for the very kind comment above - I think our discussion has been a fruitful and interesting one. And no, I certainly wouldn't ask you to leave - you seem to have the enthusiasm we need, so I'd rather you stick around, get to learn the Wikipedia ropes a bit more, and hopefully make some great contributions -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:56, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

cheers Zebedee, I appreciate your feeback. is there anything i can do to help the site at the moment? I am willing to make contributivve posts to make Wikipedia a better place and aspire to be a moderator like you one day :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.57.177.86 (talk) 11:45, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi Chris. Sorry about the delay, but I've been busy with all sorts of other things. Something you might find an interesting challenge is Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand. It looks like there's a lot going on there, with requests for articles to be written, images needed, pages needing work, stubs needing expansion, etc. If you fancy joining in with that project and helping with some of the work that needs doing, I'd be happy to help you with any guidance or suggestions on anything you're unsure of - drop me a line here any time. (Oh, and by the way, I'm not a "moderator" of any sort - I'm just an ordinary registered editor ;-) Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:30, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

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Jerilyn Sawyer

Jerilyn Sawyer was nominated for the 47th annual Grammy awards. She was helped to be placed on the ballads by Al Gomes. I viewed the Providence Phoenix paper a few years back to learn that. I believe she was in a rock category???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jerilyn18 (talk • contribs) 18:51, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, that should help narrow down the searching a bit - I'll see if I can find anything -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:57, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Are you young or old?

I'm not asking your age, but I'm asking are you young, or teen, or old? I not ask how old are you, but just what range? For me, I'm in young range (13 years old)

Young - 0-14

Teen - 15-24

Adult - 25-39

Old - 40-infinite..

Also I noticed u have been to Cambodia and Thailand. I'm from Cambodia and now I'm living in Thailand!--125.25.87.46 (talk) 02:45, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi. I'd prefer to keep my personal details, other than those I have already chosen to reveal on my user page, private, and to restrict discussion here to Wikipedia-related topics. Hope you'll understand. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:24, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

i think this is a spammer :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.57.177.86 (talk) 11:46, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Boing, and can YOU guess How long I will live in Thailand? (Hint:I come here last month, I live in Thailand one month already, but can you guess how long after this will I live?)--125.25.236.43 (talk) 17:23, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I really don't care - if you want social chat, please try somewhere like Facebook and see if there's anyone there who's interested. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:28, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

CSD for "pure shit"?

I'm serious here, for articles like the one you just commented on, can't we have a "pure shit" CSD category. I mean, if something fails WP:NOT on multiple accounts, can't we just get rid of the damn article right away? Maybe I should have used {{delete}} with WP:IAR as the reason, but come on, that article is nonsense. I really wish all the WT:CSD discussions had led to a valid CSD for these. Something can be done, can't it? (I am watching this page, so please reply here.) — Timneu22 · talk 13:46, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi Sorry for the slow answer - I've been pretty busy with other stuff. I certainly echo your feelings, and I've come across quite a few articles and thought that WP:BOLLOCKS should be a CSD criterion. But the trouble is, it seems like a hard one to tie down objectively - "shit" and "bollocks" are surprisingly subjective, and I fear we could get a lot of poor nominations by people who effectively just strongly disagree with an article's contents. I've also seen a lot of AfD discussions very much split on WP:NOT judgments too, and while this particular one was an uncontroversial delete, I could see people using such a CSD for others that are more controversial. Still, if anyone thinks they can come up with a workable way of wording such a CSD, I'd be very interested to consider it. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:24, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

"noxious bigot"

Okay, I did not see where Herostratus actually used that term, but you seem to be much better at digging this stuff up than I am so I'm not surprised. Didn't want to clutter up the page just for my own edification, either. Do you know where I can find it in context?--~TPW 23:07, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

good question, TPW, I'm sure Zebedee will be able to help you out as he seems to be very knowledgeable. I personally think he should be granted moderator status

cheers,

Chris Bodybuilding4Life (talk) 06:29, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

. . . and perhaps he will request adminship at some point!--~TPW 07:46, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

The only source of that term (apart from other people quoting it) was in this link (the one I quoted in the RfA), but that isn't the whole AfD and so it's not in its full context. I did see a quote of the AfD nomination itself somewhere, but I can't find it now - it's probably redacted. But for me, a momentary lapse of judgment was easily forgivable, and all I wanted was some acknowledgment that it was a BLP violation - and the answer to Q7 satisfied that, so I changed my !vote to Support. Cheers - Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:51, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

PS: And thanks for the kind words folks - but adminship is not in my immediate future. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:54, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Arbitrary heading

a quick query: how would i be best to go about recommending you for moderator status?

cheers

Chris

signature: Bodybuilding4Life (talk) 02:14, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

It's very kind of you to suggest it, but I would decline an admin nomination as it is not something I wish to do at the moment. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 06:06, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

quite a bit lost 122.57.177.86 (talk) 05:30, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

how come Zebedee? you are a good editor and would make a good admin person. Is your personal life giving you too much stress to take on the job? if so, i am sorry to hear.

cheers

Chris Bodybuilding4Life (talk) 02:18, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

The reason I don't want to be an admin at the moment is really just because I can do everything I want without it. In fact, I think sometimes you can diffuse arguments better by not being an admin - people tend to see admins as figures of authority, and I find it can be quite effective in discussion to be able to say things like "No, I'm just an ordinary editor, just like you". Cheers -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:02, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

that is a good point you have made. can I ask you, what drives you to maintain a high standard of contributions on wikipedia? what motivates you to share your knowledge and correct misinformation if you see it?

you seem to know a lot about music, do you specialise in it?

all the best, cheers,

Chris AKA Bodybuilding4Life (talk) 11:01, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi. I've really said all I want to say about myself, and I'd prefer to keep discussions here to specific, practical, Wikipedia issues - hope you'll understand. Regards -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 19:43, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Illinois State Lottery

You state as non-notable the fact of the Lottery draw of 666 on Nov. 5, 2008. The Bible does not see this number as - non-notable. Please revise your judgement and I'll refer this to higher moderation if further deletions occur. This is a referenced FACT. Further deletions will not be accepted in any way or form. Or else go to arbitration. I am just stating the fact. This is not vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.139.25.54 (talk) 07:20, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi. I'm afraid you'll have to take expressions of your religious beliefs elsewhere - the number 666 comes up all over the world regularly, and there is no sourced link with President Obama. Your implication that there is a connection is non-notable at best, and defamatory at worst. If you think my reversions of your additions (and those by other editors) are inappropriate, you are welcome to seek the assistance of an admin (though I really don't think ArbCom will be interested just yet). Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 07:24, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm back

You can remember I edited Myanmar-related articles by chaning to "Midnight", I quited in late April, now I'm back but I won't do that again. I will try to discuss--180.180.98.238 (talk) 14:04, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

If you just stick to Wikipedia's policies, make sure you have reliable sources for anything you want to add (and remember that just watching TV and chatting with kids on websites is not a reliable source), and don't add anything that you cannot reliably source, you shouldn't have any problems. (Oh, and please don't leave lengthy "hidden" comments on my Talk page, especially like that whole pile of incomprehensible stuff I just deleted - just say what you have to say here in the open). Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:22, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

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