Talk:What It Is to Burn

GA Review

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 13:18, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

I recall you being respectful and patient after I delivered two reviews for you in the past; I will take this article on now as part of the GAN drive! --K. Peake 13:18, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• June–July, August–September 2001 → June–September 2001
• Replace hlist with bullet points in the infobox
• Target Pop punk to Pop-punk
• Separate labels using bullet points
• "released on March 12, 2002, jointly through" → "It was released on March 12, 2002, through" as a new sentence
• "to Drive-Thru Records. Recording for their debut album" → "to Drive-Thru. Recording for the album"
• Wikilink music video
• "appeared in January 2003." → "was released in January 2003."
• The last two sentences of this para should come directly after this one instead
• "Initial touring to promote the album consisted" → "Initial accompanying tours for promotion consisted" and this belongs as the second sentence of the second para in the new order
• "in the US and the UK" → "in the United States and the United Kingdom"
• "The band also appeared at" → "The band later appeared on" and this should still follow the other tour sentence in the new order
• "The album's title-track was released as a radio single in" → "The title-track "What Is It to Burn" was released as the lead single in" with the appropriate wikilink
• "by "Letters to You" in April." → "by the single "Letters to You" in April of that year." with the appropriate target
• "Double A-sided single "New Beginnings"/"What It Is to Burn" was released in August." → ""New Beginnings"/"What It Is to Burn" was released as the third and final single on a double A-side in August 2003."
• Move the chart positions of the singles to being here, though they may be ordered more afterwards
• "primarily a pop punk/emo release," → "primarily a pop punk and emo release," with the target
• "is also classed as" → "was also classed as"
• "It received a positive reaction from" → "The album received generally positive reviews from"
• "with many finding it an enjoyable listen." → "being found as an enjoyable listen by many."
• "The album charted at number 99 on the Billboard 200 in the US and at number 177 in the UK." → "On the US Billboard 200, What It Is to Burn charted at number 99, while it reached number 177 on the UK Albums Chart." with the wikilink and this should begin a third para
• "album sales stood at over 400,000 copies." → "the album has sold over 400,000 copies worldwide."
• "charted on the UK top 40 singles chart," → "charted at number 39 on the UK Singles Chart," with the wikilink
• "the top 40 on the" → "the top 40 of the US"
• "The album has since been" → "It has since been"
• "the emo/post-hardcore scene." → "the emo and post-hardcore scenes."
• "The band went on a" → "Finch embarked on a"
• "tour for the album in 2013 through" → "tour in 2013 across"
• "Japan and Australia." → "Japan, and Australia."

Background and production

• "under the name Numb with" → "under the name of Numb, with"
• "It was thought that" → "It was rumored that"
• "though Finch has since" → "though Finch have since"
• The source identifies the band as being named Evitca Fresh; fix this
• "owner Richard Reines[1]" → "owner Richard Reines," and move [1] solely to the end of the sentence since it backs all of that up
• Target fan letter to Fan mail
• "Reines offered the group a chance to perform and" → "Richard offered the band a chance to perform for Drive-Thru Records and" per MOS:SAMESURNAME
• "co-label owner, Stefanie" → "co-label owner, Stefanie Reines"
• "were impressed and signed the group." → "were impressed by the performance and signed Finch afterwards."
• Wikilink Escondido, California
• "in February and April 2001." → "in February and April of 2001."
• "They began recording" → "Finch began recording"
• "in June[5]" → "in June of that year" and move [5] solely to the end of the sentence after [4]
• "tracking guitars in July." → "tracking guitars for the album in July 2001."
• "amplifiers. Linares used" → "amplifiers, while Linares used"
• "helped with the album's with guitar effects." → "with the guitar effects on What It is to Burn."
• "into August and September." → "throughout 2001, going into August and September."
• "The group met Palumbo at" → "Finch first met Palumbo at"
• "show and had kept in" → "show, and had kept in"
• "While they were recording, they asked him" → "While they were recording for the album, the band asked Palumbo"
• "Trombino did programming" → "Trombino completed programming"
• Target mixed to Audio mixing (recorded music)
• Target mastered to Mastering (audio)

Composition

• Retitle to Composition and lyrics
• "Musically, the album has been" → "Musically, What It Is to Burn has been"
• Target pop punk to Pop-punk
• Remove [14] since not only is four sources enough to be together, but any more is too much to back up the genre
• "The release drew comparisons to" → "The album received comparisons to the music of"
• "Linkin Park and" → "Linkin Park, and"
• "crooning and screaming;" → "crooning and screaming on What It Is to Burn;" with the target
• "around the group jamming." → "around Finch jamming."
• "said they could write a song" → "said they could sometimes write a song"
• "before shifting to aggressive" → "before the song shifts to aggressive"
• Wikilink power chords instead of the full two words
• "It sets the tone for the album" → "The song sets the tone for What It Is to Burn"
• "memorable melodies' parts and tuneful choruses." → "memorable melodies and tuneful choruses." with the target
• "on "Letters to You" bordered on" → "on "Letters to You" border on"
• "was one of the group's oldest songs," → "was one of Finch's oldest songs,"
• "said was about a couple" → "said is about a couple"
• "addressing a letter" → "sending a letter"

Release

• Retitle to Release and promotion
• "The Falling into Place EP was released" → "Finch's debut EP Falling into Place was released"
• [25] should solely be at the end of the sentence
• "A music video was released for "Letters to You" in" → "A music video for "Letters to You" was released in" with the wikilink
• ""[a]trocious", while" → ""[a]trocious," while"
• "On January 13, "Untitled" was" → "On January 13, 2001, the track "Untitled" was"
• Target MCA to MCA Records
• "and measurements. The back cover" → "and measurements, while the back cover"
• [7] offers mention of the beaker with boiling liquid but not it being on the back cover
• "boiling liquid. Doherty said they" → "boiling liquid; Doherty said the band"
• "cool imagery"." → "cool imagery.""
• "It was replaced on later pressings" → "The demo was replaced on the later pressings"
• "The UK edition," → "The United Kingdom edition,"
• Target acoustic to Acoustic music
• "The group filmed another music video for" → "Finch filmed a new music video for"
• "in mid-April 2002[31]" → "in mid-April 2002,[31]"
• "on May 24." → "on May 24, 2002."
• "the group signed to" → "the band signed to"
• Wikilink distribution deal
• "was released as a radio single[37]" → "was released to radio stations across the United States as the lead single from What Is It to Burn,[37]" with the wikilink
• "the track[12] with director Alexander Kosta." → "the track,[12] which was directed by Alexander Kosta.
• "on February 21, 2003." → "on February 12, 2003."
• "In March, Punknews.org held" → "In March of that year, Punknews.org held"
• Target vinyl to Phonograph record
• "On April 22, "Letters to You" was released as a single." → "On April 22, 2003, "Letters to You" was released on CD as What Is It to Burn's second single." with the targets
• "and "Letters to You"." → "and "Letters to You" as bonus tracks."
• "Following this," → "Following on from this,"
• "as a double A-sided single on August 25." → "on a double A-sided as the album's third and final single on August 25, 2003." with the target

Touring

• Retitle to Tours
• "Following the album's release, the group" → "Following the release of What It Is to Burn, Finch"
• "In April and May 2002, the group went on tour with" → "In April and May of 2002, the band toured with"
• "Following this, the group" → "After this, they"
• Remove wikilink on New Found Glory
• "the group performed on" → "Finch performed on"
• [47] should solely be at the end of the sentence before [48]
• "the Drive-Thru Records Stage." → "the Drive-Thru Records stage."
• "In late August, the group performed" → "In late August of 2002, the band performed"
• "In September, the group performed" → "The following month, Finch performed"
• "In October and November," → "In October and November of 2002,"
• "went tour across the US alongside" → "embarked on a tour across the US with"
• "In November and December, the group" → "In the last two months of the year, Finch"
• [52] should solely be at the end of the sentence before [53]
• "with From Autumn to Ashes and" → "with From Autumn to Ashes as well as"
• [54] should solely be at the end of the sentence
• "January and February 2003." → "January and February of 2003."
• "initially planned to support before being" → "initially planned to be the support act, before they were"
• "went on a co-heading US tour" → "went on a co-headlining US tour"
• "Following this, the group continued touring" → "Following on from this, Finch continued touring"
• [57] should solely be at the end of the sentence before [58]
• "until early March." → "until early March of 2003."
• "In March, the group went" → "That same month, the band went"
• "In April, the group performed" → "In April 2003, they performed"
• "In early May, the band performed at" → "In early May of 2003, Finch performed for"
• "In June, the band" → "The following month, the band"
• "appeared on Jimmy Kimmel Live![62]" → "appeared on Jimmy Kimmel Live!,[62]"
• "at KROQ's Weenie Roast festival." → "at the KROQ Weenie Roast festival."
• "In early July, the group appeared" → "In early July of 2003, Finch appeared"
• "In August, the group performed" → "The following month, they performed"

Reception

• Retitle to Critical reception and I will elaborated on the new order below
• Target FasterLouder to Junkee Media

Critical response

• This should not be under a sub-section; it should be the only part of the Critical reception section
• "was received positively for the most part by" → "was met with generally positive reviews from"
• "calling the release "phenomenal", noting that the group" → "calling the album "phenomenal," noting that Finch"
• "The record "exemplifies" → "He also wrote that the album "exemplifies"
• "punk scene", going on to list" → "punk scene," citing"
• "specific sound. The album showcases the group's" → "specific sound, observing that the album showcases their"
• "perky rock" incorporating Glassjaw," → "perky rock," incorporating Glassjaw,"
• Wikilink Molotov cocktail
• Remove The Gateway per WP:RSSM
• "referred to the release as an" → "referred to What It Is to Burn as an"
• Target FasterLouder to Junkee Media
• "described it an" → "described it as an"
• Wikilink chord progressions
• "to the release which" → "to the album, which"
• "He commended the band" → "He commended Finch"
• "said it had "perfect mix" → "said the album has "the perfect mix"
• "the extra edge"," → "the extra edge,""
• "Ultimate Guitar hailed the release," → "The team from Ultimate Guitar hailed the album,"
• "and lacked any" → "and lacks any"
• "said the group" → "commented that Finch"
• Wikilink punk rock
• Target metal to Heavy metal music
• "she felt the lyrics" → "she felt that the lyrical content on What It Is to Burn"
• "said the group bounced" → "said the band bounced"
• "bubbly beats", a fusion which" → "bubbly beats," a fusion that"
• "of charisma", he added." → "of charisma," Lecaro added."
• "criticized the song titles, saying that the band" → "criticized the titles of the songs on the album, saying that Finch"

Commercial performance and legacy

• This should be its own section
• "at number 99 on the" → "at number 99 on the US"
• Remove Heatseeker Albums as it is non-notable
• The April 2003 figures should be in the sentence after the first instead
• "It also charted at number 177 in the UK. "Letters to You" charted in the UK at number 39." → "It charted at number 177 on the UK Albums Chart, while "Letters to You" reached number 39 on the UK Singles Chart." with the wikilinks
• "charted at number 15 on the" → "peaked at number 15 on the US"
• [75] should be solely at the end of the sentence before [76]
• Target Mainstream Rock to Mainstream Rock (chart)
• "the album had sold over 400,000 copies." → "What It Is to Burn had sold over 400,000 copies worldwide."
• Rankings should be at the start of the second para
• "included the album's title-track on their list" → "included "What It Is to Burn" at number 47 on their list" since otherwise it sounds like an unordered list
• "said the album was" → "said What It Is to Burn was"
• "leading the genre" → "noting it for leading the genre"
• "In 2013, the group" → "In 2013, Finch"
• "It was initially" → "The celebration was initially"
• "released a live/video album from this tour" → "released a live video album of the anniversary celebrations"
• "The album has been" → "What It Is to Burn has been"
• "Finch's use of" → "Finch's mix of"
• Remove wikilink on A Day to Remember

Track listing

• Wikilink Mark Trombino
• re-recorded from the Falling into Place EP → re-recorded from the EP Falling into Place, but with no target on the second mention

Personnel

• Split P.R. Brown and Kris McCaddon from the previous two names under production into their own sub-heading; title this fourth one Design

Chart positions

• Retitle to Charts
• Remove non-notable Heatseeker Albums chart

References

Citations

• Copyvio score looks good at dead on 20%; congrats!
• Make sure all of these are archived by using the tool
• Remove target on Finch for ref 4
• Target Kludge to Kludge (magazine) on ref 7
• Remove the publisher from refs 8, 10, 11, 17, 44, 76, 77, 78 and 83
• WP:OVERLINK of Chart Attack on ref 12 and remove the publisher
• Wikilink Kerrang! on ref 15
• WP:OVERLINK of Kludge on ref 16
• Wikilink Exclaim! on ref 18 and remove the publisher
• Wikilink Los Angeles Times on ref 19 and remove the publisher
• Remove the author from refs 20 and 65
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 21
• Target FasterLouder to Junkee Media on ref 22 and remove the publisher
• Remove the author from ref 23 and target Alternative Press to Alternative Press (magazine)
• WP:OVERLINK of Finch, MCA and and Drive-Thru Records on ref 42
• WP:OVERLINK of Finch and MCA Records on ref 43
• Wikilink Metal Hammer on ref 52 and remove the publisher
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 56 and remove the publisher
• Wikilink Las Magazine on ref 68
• Remove the author from ref 70 and wikilink Ultimate Guitar
• Remove ref 71 per WP:RSSM
• Zobbel → Zobbel.de on ref 74
• Target Billboard to Billboard (magazine) on ref 75 and remove the publisher
• Cite Punknews.org as publisher instead for ref 84
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 88 and wikilink Rock Sound
• Killthemusic → Killthemusic.net on ref 89

Works cited

• Target CMJ New Music Report to CMJ

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until the issues are fixed, though I suspect you should go through this quite well. --K. Peake 16:42, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Done. Yeepsi (talk) 18:01, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Yeepsi Did some minor copy editing, but I am very impressed with you quick response rate and how great the work itself is! ✓ Pass time. --K. Peake 07:02, 10 October 2020 (UTC)