Talk:Warm Springs, Oregon

Incorporation

The Agency, Simnasho, and other areas in which people live are obviously NOT incorporated, and in no way shape or form ever going to be incorporated. Indian land is very different and to say anything along the lines of incorporation on a reservation is not entirely accurate. Some areas on some reservations can be incorporated, but not all. The Warm Springs Tribe is unique in that it has sole jurisdiction over the land within the exterior boundaries of the reservation, unlike other Tribes, such as the Yakama do not necessarily have control of incorporated areas such as Toppenish, etc....—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.140.162.30 (talk • contribs) 22:33, October 9, 2007

I think I get what you're saying. This article used to merely say that Warm Springs was a "census-designated place", which doesn't make it sound like a place with any history or community at all, so calling it an "unincorporated community" seemed like an improvement to me! If you could add some history on how the place is governed, that would be ideal. I'm going to try to edit the article to add some context to the lead (the first sentence of an article should give a definition of what the article is about)--see what you think. Thanks! Katr67 23:25, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Hrm, I wish the anon would stick around, because I think he/she has some kind of point. The perspective implicit in calling the community "unincorporated" would seem to derive from the concept that it could be "incorporated." But if the Warm Springs Tribe recognizes no such status, the word "unincorporated" would seem to be meaningless, and should be dropped. The U.S. Census's perspective on this place would seem to be pretty unimportant, i.e. not leadworthy, because it is essentially outside the borders of the U.S. For that matter, it's outside the borders of Jefferson County, so that nav. template should be edited and removed. It may be "surrounded by" Jefferson County, but as I understand it, no Indian reservation can be "in" another country, e.g. the USA. -Pete (talk) 03:02, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Wow, I forgot about this whole other can of worms. Yes, I'd love to hear more about the tribes' perspective on such things. I would imagine there's no one perspective on the matter, but until we get clarity, I think it makes sense to leave the Jefferson tl. Katr67 (talk) 04:06, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

The respective counties that the Reservation is purportedly a part of have absolutely no jurisdiction over the Warm Springs Indian Reservation. One thing further to consider, especially with the Warm Springs Indian Reservation is that it came into existance in 1855--four full years before Oregon became the 2nd to the last free State in the Union. For the counties to have drawn lines across Indian Land is rather silly. There is one notable exception to this with respect to the County, especially Jefferson County and Wasco (to a MUCH lesser degree) in that the Jefferson County School District 509-J does in fact fund the school in Warm Springs, and even goes as far as to bus the children from the Warm Springs Reservation (as far away as Simnasho) to Madras for grades 5-12. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.140.162.30 (talk) 02:12, 11 December 2007 (UTC)