Talk:Visa requirements for Emirati citizens

Latest comment: 6 years ago by BushelCandle in topic Henley & Partners Passport Index

it says that Kiribati abolished visas in 2019 according to the history section also in article "visa policy of Kiribati" but in the list it says VISA REQUIRED

Schengen Visa

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I'm opening this discussion because Twofortnights undid a outdated template I added to this article. Recently United Arab Emirates has been granted a visa free entry to all the Schengen region, moving up the passport free visa countries to 72 and the passport power rank to 47 according to passportindex.org. The article needs to be updated accordingly. Wikiemirati (talk) 13:12, 24 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

Can you provide a source for your claim that the "United Arab Emirates has been granted a visa free entry to all the Schengen region"? Because according to all info I can find the UAE citizens will become exempt in the future, only after a proposed mutual visa waiver is signed and ratified. Until then, as you can see on the official EU website here, the visa is required for UAE citizens.--Twofortnights (talk) 15:04, 24 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

"ability for bearers of Emirati passports to travel without obtaining visas in advance"

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This recent edit by User:Twofortnights inserted a "clarification needed" template in this phrase and this (superfluous?) insertion puzzled me.

The phrase currently appears in our article in the following context:

  • "As of May 2018, Emirati citizens had visa-free or visa on arrival access to 154 countries and territories... This ability[clarification needed] for bearers of Emirati passports to travel without obtaining visas in advance, means that the UAE passport ranks as the best for nationals from the 'Arab world'."

To me, it is clear that the "ability" refers to the ability of travelling without the necessity of obtaining visas in advance if one is in possession of a valid Emirati passport.

Is there anyone else that thinks this point needs further clarification and, if so, do they have any suggestions for re-wording it to make it even clearer that there is no other passport that someone from the Arab World could use that has a greater ability to facilitate travel without obtaining a visa in advance? --BushelCandle (talk) 11:15, 12 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

I propose to reword it that such ranking is what makes the UAE passport the best in Arab world. Saying "This ability for bearers of Emirati passports to travel without obtaining visas in advance" is ambiguous, it suggests Emirati passport holders do not need visas in advance in general, and then it connects it to the ranking among the Arabic world. What the editor is trying to say is that the ranking of the UAE passport as 23rd in terms of travel freedom in the world also places it above passports of other Arab countries which rank lower. So I don't have anything against including it in the article, but I am just suggesting a slight rewording in order to clarify what we are referring to.
Also while we are at it, please fix the spaces between references [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11]. Thanks.--Twofortnights (talk) 11:54, 12 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
What about using this modified and shorter wording, then:
As of May 2018, Emirati citizens had visa-free or visa on arrival access to 154 countries and territories, ranking the Emirati passport 23rd in terms of travel freedom (tied with the Uruguay passport) according to the Henley Passport Index.[1]All other passports from the 'Arab world' had an inferior ranking in this respect as of 12 June 2018.[2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11]
?--BushelCandle (talk) 12:51, 12 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
I think that would be a satisfactory wording.--Twofortnights (talk) 12:57, 12 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
I've now made the suggested change and also alerted the Guild of Copyeditors to see if someone can improve it.
However, compare
Wristwatches for Emirati citizens were introduced by the United Kingdom with electronic digital watches (edw) from 1 January 2014
with
Wristwatches for Emirati citizens were introduced by the United Kingdom with electronic digital watch (edw) from 1 January 2014
to see what I mean by "pidgin English".
--BushelCandle (talk) 15:14, 12 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for making the compromise edit. As for the EVW I understand what you mean in general, but the problem is that EVW is the name of the program so we shouldn't use it like that in plural, it should say something like the UK Electronic Visa Waiver program for UAE citizens commenced on 1 January 2014.--Twofortnights (talk) 16:36, 12 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
Right, now I understand and thanks for the explanation. As a result, I have partially reverted myself and taken the opportunity to use different prose that is more prolix but less note- like. --BushelCandle (talk) 16:19, 13 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

References and notes

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References
  1. ^ "Global Ranking - Passport Index 2018" (PDF). Henley & Partners. Retrieved 22 May 2018.
  2. ^ "Emiratis top opportunity ranking for Arab world and climb in global survey". The National. International Media Investments. 22 April 2018. Retrieved 10 June 2018. UAE nationals enjoy the best opportunities in the Arab region
  3. ^ "What is the Arab's strongest passport?". Al Arabiya English. 13 February 2017. Retrieved 10 June 2018. The strongest Arab passport is that of the United Arab Emirates
  4. ^ Courtney Trenwith (19 Apr 2015). "Revealed: Most powerful Arab passports". Arabian Business. ITP Media Group. Retrieved 10 June 2018. The UAE has the most powerful Arab passport, according to an annual ranking by financial firm Arton Capital
  5. ^ "Diplomacy: UAE passport, most powerful in the Arab world". The North Africa Post. Global Intelligence Partners, 11, rue Cadi Benhamadi Sanhaji, La Pinède, Rabat, MOROCCO. 27 October 2017. Retrieved 10 June 2018. The United Arab Emirates (UAE) has retained its rank as the Arab country with the most powerful passport in the Middle East on Passport index
  6. ^ "UAE passport most powerful in Arab world". Khaleej Times. Galadari Printing and Publishing Co. L.L.C. 20 April 2015. Retrieved 10 June 2018. The Emirati passport has been ranked first among the Arab countries
  7. ^ Katherine LaGrave (22 May 2018). "This Is the World's Most Powerful Passport". Condé Nast Traveler. Condé Nast International. Retrieved 10 June 2018. The passport to watch? The United Arab Emirates, which currently sits in 23rd place but has climbed 38 spots since 2008, and gained visa-free access to eight countries in 2018 alone—China, Ireland, Burkina Faso, Uruguay, Guinea, Tonga, Benin, and Honduras.
  8. ^ "What's the number one travel passport in the region?". AMEinfo. Mediaquest FZ LLC. 31 October 2017. Retrieved 10 June 2018. Five Arab countries rank among the worst 10 when it comes to the most powerful passports in the world. Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Sudan and Iran rank at the bottom... UAE's passport ranking was mainly boosted from its Schengen visa waiver obtained in 2015. The UAE is the first Arab nation whose citizens enjoy a visa waiver to the 26 Schengen countries, which make up most of Europe.
  9. ^ Leyal Khalife (13 March 2018). "This Arab passport just became more powerful". stepFEED. Retrieved 10 June 2018. Lengthy visa applications and intense security screenings are two obstacles many people face when traveling. However, if you are in possession of an Emirati passport, worry no more. The UAE passport has just been ranked the most powerful passport in the Arab world, according to a 2018 report released by Henley & Partners, a global citizenship and residence advisory firm. Globally, the Emirati passport ranked 27th most powerful, with visa-free access to 140 destinations. The passport saw an increase of 11 points in the ranking in just one year, according to the report.
  10. ^ Yousra Zaki (18 April 2018). "Revealed: World's most powerful Arab passports in 2018 - We look at the latest Passport Index to find the most powerful Arab ones". Gulf News. Al Nisr Publishing LLC (GulfNews.com is the most widely read newspaper, and online site in English in the Middle East. With a daily BPA audited paid circulation of over 93,068 as of June 2017, and an online audience of 5.3 million unique views every month). Retrieved 10 June 2018. UAE leads the Middle East as the most powerful passport ranked in terms of visa-free score or the number of countries where UAE nationals can get visa on arrival while travelling.
  11. ^ Mohamed Khalil (29 October 2017). "Which Arab country has the best passport?". Esquire Middle East. ITP Media Group. Retrieved 10 June 2018. Here's are the rankings for all the Arab countries with their global ranking: 1. United Arab Emirates
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Henley & Partners Passport Index

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If we can believe them, they are continually updating their index - not just once or twice a year, User:Norvikk. However, I have noticed that they do not update their public webpage as often as the documents available to their (paying) clients.

Here's a link to Google's cache of the latest index I could find (22 May 2018, according to the rubric at the lower left corner in light grey font which says " The information provided here is based on the 2018 Henley Passport Index ranking, as of 22 May 2018."):

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Zz8kt2aPScEJ:https://www.henleypassportindex.com/assets/PI2018_INFOGRAPHS_GLOBAL_180518.pdf &cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=firefox-b-ab

--BushelCandle (talk) 19:46, 10 July 2018 (UTC)Reply