Talk:Trick Weekes
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Male categories?
editI'm not sure what's happened here, and I'd like it if the Wikipedia app would stop notifying me of comments that I refuse to respond to. For the record, I meant "man who uses they/them pronouns" as in a transgender person with a complex gender identity, and not to disparage the article subject or their gender identity. IP users, please read MOS:GENDERID. (QuietCicada on November 12, 2024. My signature isn't working?)
Is Weekes in categories like American male novelists because they are a man who uses they/them pronouns, or did someone forget to update the categories after they came out?QuietCicada chirp 17:15, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Doesn't matter if he "choose" pronouns, he's male and a single person, therefore "he". 5.77.74.34 (talk) 11:18, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- He is a man. Honestly his pronoun and name change seems disingenuous.
- I think a lot of it is to avoid being identified for how terribly his work and politics have been received.
- Considering this article is being watched by chicken hawks that refuse to let anyone talk honestly. 2600:100A:B050:4BEB:3870:48FF:FEF0:59DA (talk) 20:26, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
Changing Name of Article
editI'm not sure how to do this, and I don't have an account, but I'm the person who's been trying to update Weekes's page to be congruent with their name change. Could someone change the name of this article so it says 'Trick Weekes' instead? Thanks! 172.91.133.64 (talk) 21:16, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
This article is confusing
editIn good faith I am confused. Are Patrick/Trick the same person? Maybe I'm conflating two people with similar names. Trick must be a typographical error, and the bizzare pronoun usage/information isn't sourced reliably. 2600:100A:B050:4BEB:3870:48FF:FEF0:59DA (talk) 23:04, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, they're the same person. There are two general claims being made in the article. Firstly (1), that their current name is Trick: the citation for this is https://wandering.shop/@PaladinBard, the author's official social media profile. Secondly (2), that they use they/them pronouns: the citation for this is https://patrickweekes.com/about/, the author's official website. arcticocean ■ 23:09, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- For your first question, they are the same person but it seems as if, from what I can tell from the sources, the name "Trick" seems to have been added in error. They are (from what I could tell) referred to as "Trick Weekes" only in one source, the first one. This however is also incorrect, as its title has been edited and now reflects the name they use on Twitter and also on the page which arcticocean posted above - their username on Mastodon is Trick, however the bio does say "Account for Patrick Weekes".
- That being said, the pronouns are sourced very reliably, to them themselves. See WP:PRIMARY and WP:ABOUTSELF. CommissarDoggoTalk? 23:12, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Speaking more on their first name, on their BlueSky they do refer to themselves as Trick Weekes. Would definitely be worth gathering some consensus on this. CommissarDoggoTalk? 23:14, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- He doesn't get to "choose pronouns", he's a male and a single person, therefore "he". 5.77.74.34 (talk) 11:20, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Again, see MOS:NB and MOS:SINGULARTHEY. They do get to and they have, they've got it on most of their social media. Wikipedia summarises what sources say, please see WP:PRIMARY and WP:ABOUTSELF. CommissarDoggoTalk? 11:31, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- There is some confusion on the talk page, and indeed it's not 100% clear whether Weekes always prefers the name "Trick" - for example, Weekes' personal website still says
Patrick Weekes lives in Canada with their non-platonic life partner Karin...
Given this confusion, I've added Weekes' alternate/former name to the lead, which should be fine per MOS:GID since they were previously notable/had a Wikipedia article under this name. We can revisit this in the future if this changes (i.e. if Weekes clearly prefers "Trick" and so it makes more sense to say "formerly Patrick" instead of "also Patrick"). Astaire (talk) 22:16, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
Bad faith edits
editThis articles talk page is being censored by individuals due to political reasonings.
Patrick is just like anyone else and doesn't deserve special protection.
It's not the world's fault he's made his name and aliases confusing, considering he's a grow adult and extremely wealthy I'm not sure why people are protecting him.
Allow this article to be discussed, because it seems like nobody can get the information correct in good faith. 2600:100A:B050:4BEB:3870:48FF:FEF0:59DA (talk) 05:50, 12 November 2024 (UTC)