Talk:Toyota Avanza

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Does anyone know the miles per gallon/liter for this vehicle. It's ridiculous that Toyota doesn't offer this information out her in Thailand. In fact the mpg or mpl is never listed on any sales brochures. If anyone has this info for this vehicle please add it.125.25.86.46 (talk) 03:11, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Daihatsu Xenia

i'm wondering, since this car was designed and manufactured under Daihatsu brand name,
should we change the title of this article to Daihatsu Xenia, and redirect Toyota Avanza here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.121.14.88 (talk) 08:51, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

The car is more known as the "Avanza" worldwide, while the "Xenia" nameplate is used in Indonesia only. So let the article name still be "Toyota Avanza", even though it is fully manufactured by Daihatsu.202.58.170.122 (talk) 07:52, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Rear wheel drive ?

It is stated that this vehicle has an FR configuration, which supposedly means the engine is at the front and the rear wheels are driven. Is this actually correct ? I very much doubt it.Eregli bob (talk) 06:40, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes it correct, i dont have pictures of the underside of the avanza but i found a video of the underside of it showing the undercarriage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjUBhNO60Jk --TheBitterNoob1 (talk) 04:55, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Is it vandalism?

Please refer to the edit history of this article and look at the revision of IP user 112.206.67.89 there. If you have seen it, some content about the "All New Avanza" in the Philippines (Second generation - Section Philippines) is removed. Is this edit vandalism, a cleanup, or what? I'm suspicious that this IP user has not explained briefly why he/she removed important content. Thank you. Jedd Raynier (talk) (contributions) 03:26, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Avanza diesel?

Let's be honest. Just a simple question, does Avanza diesel exist? I have checked the source that was putted in there, and there's ACTUALLY NO Avanza diesel. What other sources that can be explained if there's an Avanza diesel? Sorry for my bad English. 139.193.169.251 (talk) 14:32, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Date formats

I've changed the all dates in the article to DMY - This company is Japanese and so as such DMY would obviously be correct, Also someone had changed the date format a year ago[1] seemingly without any issue so I fail to see what the issue is now ? .... –Davey2010^Talk 22:44, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

I agree that the main text should be DMY due to internal consistentcy and past history (but not due to ties with Japan, which has no tie to any English date format). However, the references do not have to follow the date format of the main text. MOS:DATEFORMAT says "Special rules apply to citations; see see Wikipedia:Citing sources § Citation style." Following the link, we read "As with spelling differences, it is normal practice to defer to the style used by the first major contributor or adopted by the consensus of editors already working on the page". Since the yyyy-mm-dd reference date format has been in use for a year, this shows an implicit consensus among editors that yyyy-mm-dd is okay (ie nobody objected, so it was implicitly accepted).

By the way, guideline WP:BRD says that when a controversial edit is reverted then the article should remain in the pre-edit state until discussion reaches a consensus to allow the edit. You should not re-re-reverted back to your preference.  Stepho  talk  23:04, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

WP:DATEUNIFY does state "X should all use the same format" and so it's my understanding as a whole there should be a consistent format throughout the entire article, No one objected to the yyyy-mm-dd that you applied because no one had any idea you applied this - Without sounding funny if you change everything to yyyy-mm-dd and then a second later for instance add an image - No one is going to be none the wiser and ofcourse no one's going to look at cites dates either,

It seems rather bizarre to have half the article in DMY and then the refs as yyyy-mm-dd - Wouldn't it make more sense to have the entire article as either DMY or yyyy-mm-dd ? (The second isn't great but I suppose it could be a compromise),

As for BRD - Ironically I cite it all the time but then again I follow IAR ... –Davey2010^Talk 23:24, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Re: BRD - No worries.

Re: WP:DATEUNIFY - it actually states "Dates in article body text should all use the same format" (my underlining). References/citations are not body text. Furthermore, it states "Access and archive dates in an article's citations should all use the same format, which may be: ... or yyyy-mm-dd" ("..." being other options).

Unfortunately yyyy-mm-dd is explicitly disallowed for article text - although even I realise that most English readers would find it hard to digest yyyy-mm-dd in the middle of a sentence.

I think you have me confused with OSX for the change a year ago. We're both Australian and are generally like-minded but there's about 4500km between us. My own edits around that time were removing some guys insistence that his country's lack of a diesel engine meant that the rest of the world also lacked it - ins pite of proof.  Stepho  talk  10:18, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Model years

RushCars24ID has added many instances of "model years". Does Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, etc use US style model years (ie model year 2013 typically starts about August 2012 and goes to abort August 2013 - give or take a few months at each end depending on many factors). or does a 2013 vehicle mean a vehicle that was introduced sometime in calendar year 2013?  Stepho  talk  09:58, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

In my country (Indonesia), the US-style model years is usually never applied. So basically talking, when the vehicle is sold in November 2012, it is still called as the 2012 model. When the vehicle is sold in February 2013, it is called as the 2013 model. Therefore, it is being more of the year the vehicle was sold.202.58.170.122 (talk) 07:44, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

In Malaysia, if a car is produced between January and December 2002, then it's known as a 2002 car. Bindydad123 (talk) 08:54, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your answers and thank you for fixing the article.  Stepho  talk  11:02, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Use the original name of Voxy and Vellfire

On the second facelift of the second generation Avanza section, I want readers to link to the original name of the Voxy (Toyota Noah) and Vellfire (Toyota Alphard). So that readers know that the Voxy is same like Noah, and the Vellfire is same like Alphard, but with different front and rear fascias (as of the current generation), because the Voxy and Vellfire are the Netz Store version of Noah and Alphard, respectively. Alex Neman (talk) 08:45, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

The article explicitly brings the names "Voxy" and "Vellfire" to the attention of the reader. The reader is not told in this article about the relationship to the Noah and the Alphard. Therefore to link to the Noah and the Alphard is simply wrong. If you want the reader of this article to know about the Noah and the Alphard then you have to explicitly tell them - not tell them one name and then whisk them off to another name. WP:REDIRECT encourages us to link using the actual name you are telling the user. This has the added benefit that if the Voxy and Noah ever split into separate articles then the link to Voxy will go to the new Voxy article instead of the old Noah article. And this will happen automatically without having to edit the links.

So you need to decide if you are telling the reader about the Voxy (and hence linking to Toyota Voxy) or telling them about the Noah (and hence linking to the Toyota Noah). And similar for the Alphard and Vellfire.  Stepho  talk  12:48, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Avanza chassis code should be F60 and F65

F600 and F650 is only for the 1.0L engine variant, to avoid misunderstanding it would be better to use F60 and F65Davage13 (talk) 23:21, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

It is common practice in the Toyota world for specifying a generation to state all the digits but to know that the last digit can be replaced. Ie F650 stands in for the F650, F651, F652, F653, etc.  Stepho  talk  23:31, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Also it could cause confusion with the fourth generation Kijang which already uses the F60 and F61 designations for the pickup truck and South african Panel Van bodystyles TheBitterNoob (talk) 19:20, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Toyota Avanza Third Generation

Please provide information on the Third Gen avanza — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.155.107.161 (talk) 06:08, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello, we don't write about future product information in accordance with WP:CRYSTALBALL. Andra Febrian (talk) 06:47, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 November 2021

I want to edit this page Pon autos (talk) 15:45, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

I want to edit this page Pon autos (talk) 15:45, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: requests for decreases to the page protection level should be directed to the protecting admin or to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection if the protecting admin is not active or has declined the request. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:47, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Toyota Veloz (W150)

The Toyota Veloz was launched in the GCC on February 2023. Bompanigcc (talk) 18:22, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

And ?  Stepho  talk  21:22, 23 February 2023 (UTC)