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Latest comment: 4 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion
Especially in late June, this article seems to be a WP:INDISCRIMINATE collection of anti-PRC news, like
"According to the Financial Times, Tokyo seeks to lure professional talent and business opportunities in order to boost Tokyo's competitiveness in East Asia. Japan could use this opportunity...
"According to the International Chamber of Commerce, they stated a report which condemned Beijing of proposing the national security law in Hong Kong. They deemed it shocking..."
"Alicia Garcia Herrero, a professional economist from French commerce firm Natixis, pointed out that Hong Kong would not be regarded as an international financial hub after the national security law."
And even more concerning for Wikipedia's guidelines, there are unsourced allegations of sexual abuse against a 13 year old girl. Anyway, where is the actual news of people actually on the streets protesting? I guess the things here are thematically connected to the Hong Kong anti-establishment, but where are the feet on the ground? 체셔🐈 (talk) 18:06, 25 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
I will not address the question in the title of this thread here, but focus on the contents of your discussion point. I certainly agree that there is (still) a lot of work that needs to be done on the article. I have culled a substantial number of paragraphs – shorter and a few quite verbose longer ones, which I considered to be of too little relevance to this article. A search for references to the statements revealed that there was also a significant part of "pro-establishment", so to speak, material, with sources including Xinhua and China Daily. Of the four particular issues that you raise, I have removed three but kept the one about Japan, as it may be seen as offering insights into the protests. --CRau080 (talk) 19:41, 27 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Firstly, I'd like to apologize for contributing to so much irrelevant material. I also agree with some reasonable edits.
But concerning the HK Protest movement, the phase that the protests are located in is related to the national security law currently. A lot of sources or information which are deemed 'anti-PRC' sources have some outcome and some effect on how the protests are staged in Hong Kong today. They all seem to have an impact on the progress of the protests. A lot of these 'foreign' news and discussion, such as those from Pompeo, are also sourced and circulated in the Chinese title of the page as well. Therefore, I do not agree that all characterized as anti-PRC material must be removed and edited, since a lot of them further signifies and is closely related to the protest movement.
Thank you for your message. While the contribution of less relevant, or perhaps irrelevant, material in large amounts generally does create substantial "post-processing" work for further editors down the track, I don't find it objectionable if no ill intent was present. In my edits, I strove to keep the balance between "anti-PRC material" (if one chooses to use this description; I personally would not) and other material. At the same time, serious problems with the reliability of information from state-run Chinese media are well-known, and have been discussed on probably a number of discussion pages for other Hong Kong related articles. I admit that I only understand part of your comments, and perhaps not the main point you wish to make; Pompeo is still mentioned in the article. --CRau080 (talk) 19:25, 30 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
