Talk:Subordinate officer

Dubious

So which is it? Are they entitled to be saluted, or not? The article says one thing at the top and another at the bottom, and I don't know enough about the subject to fix it. -- nae'blis _(talk) 15:11, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

• It depends on the unit one rests at, I would say. In my own experience I was treated like a recruit, afforded no privilege or courtesy, told little and held trivial positions. On the same note, I have had friends who did meaningful work and were treated as commissioned officers in all respects. While there exists no obligation to salute subordinate officers the way one must salute commissioned officers, some do. 70.51.81.103 15:22, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

• It would appear there are differences between the UK and Canada. I can only speak from personal experience, but in the CF, OCdts were NOT saluted as a normal practice, because they did not hold a Queen's Commission; however, they could be for training purposes: OCdts on their Basic Officer Courses used to salute the hell out of each other (but not by NCMs), and would be saluted on unit parades if they held a position such as Tp OC (in which they would be saluted by the Tp WO upon taking command of the troop). The regulations concerning paying compliments in the CF is governed by the Manual of Drill and Ceremonial, and unfortunately, as a transplanted retiree, I do not have access to a copy. If any editors out there are in the CF, please post the relevant article from the drill manual as a cite. --SigPig |^{SEND - OVER} 19:21, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Canadian term?

This site: http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/about-notresujet/Insig/air-eng.asp#sub has a category for officer cadets called 'Subordinate Officer', so maybe this just needs to be merged into the officer cadet article. The countries which use Midshipman/Acting Sub-Lieutenant/Sub-Lieutenant (UK, Aus, NZ) don't appear use this term, despite what the article says.

I'm going to request this article be deleted if no further references are added. Thanks for your help. Kirk (talk) 18:29, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

UK section deleted

All Royal Navy officers join the navy with a 12-year commission. http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/server/show/nav.6279 Historically, prior to being promoted to Lieutenant, Midshipmen/Master's Mates/Sub-Lieutenants maybe have had their rank/rating under Admiralty orders depending on the time period, but that's no longer true, and they weren't called subordinate officers anyways.

Royal Marine officers are commissioned when they begin training. http://www.royalmarines.mod.uk/server/show/nav.7153

I decided to remove this section - if you have some supporting information, please feel free to undo my edit. Thanks! Kirk (talk) 17:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, they were called subordinate officers. I have readded and rewritten the section with copious references. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:51, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Kirk (talk) 17:13, 19 March 2009 (UTC)