Talk:Step by Step (Braxe Falcon song)

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• ... that for their debut single "Step by Step", the French touch music duo Braxe Falcon created a "downtempo ballad with acoustic drums" in divergence from the traditional French house club-style music?

• Source: https://www.musicradar.com/news/braxe-falcon-interview – "We finished Step By Step first and that was an important song for us because it’s a downtempo ballad with acoustic drums. We didn’t want to come back with your typical French house 125bpm format – we’ve done that already and are not excited by that type of music anymore, so we felt it was crucial to push this kind of track as part of our first collaborative project."

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Improved to Good Article status by BarntToust (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

BarntToust 14:16, 11 December 2024 (UTC).

• I'll take on this one, to pay it forward on how quickly my first DYK nom got reviewed.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - Need to source the genre (per WP:EXPLICITGENRE). The personnel section should also be cited, whether if it is to an online listing of the song or the EP's liner notes.
• Neutral: - Wish I could give a check mark with comments, but this template does not allow that. I'd like to see a little more about the song's lyrical content, if you could find information on it? No worries if not.
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
• Other problems: - When I first ran Earwig on the article, it gave it a copyvio score of 62.9%. While a second run reduced it down to an acceptable 21.3%, I think that the overquoting in the article's reception section should be addressed before it is promoted to DYK. I'd suggest taking a look at WP:CRS for tips on how to consolidate things, but the key is to try and link quotes together by their subject like you did in the article's lead (e.g. "Critics praised the song for its "breezy" instrumention.")

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting: - I'm not convinced of this hook's interesting-ness. Per WP:DYKINT, a hook needs to be intriguing to a person with "no special knowledge or interest", but this hook requires a reader to be familiar with the conventions of "traditional French house club-style music". The information about the music video seems pretty interesting though, perhaps "...that the music video for "Step by Step" stars a 12-year old professional skateboarder?" or something in that vein?

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Article is new enough and was promoted to GA within the past week. However, there are few issues with the article's prose: "French touch" being the song's genre must be sourced, the personnel section lacks a citation, and there's a bit of WP:OVERQUOTE in the article reception section. The given hook is also not particularly interesting in my opinion; I've suggested an alternative idea, but a new hook should be created in any case. In any case, good job on your first GA and your first DYK nomination, as far as I can tell :) Leafy46 (talk) 16:17, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

• The nominator responded to this review on my personal talk page, and has agreed with an alternate hook. How does "ALT1: ...that the music video for "Step by Step" stars a 12-year old professional skateboarder?" (Source) sound? Leafy46 (talk) 17:36, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• I also see that you proposed "ALT1a: ... that the music video for Braxe Falcon's debut single "Step by Step", directed by Toru Tokikawa, stars 12-year-old skater Ginwoo Onodera, who is the youngest athlete ever to sign with Nike?" — I'll put this here too just so we can consolidate everything, but I personally think less is more when it comes to DYK hooks in general. Leafy46 (talk) 17:39, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Nominator accepted the alternate hooks on my personal talk page, so I'll approve ALT1 and ALT1a for whichever administrator comes down the line to choose from! Leafy46 (talk) 17:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Any mistakes in the GA review are mine, sorry. // Chchcheckit (talk) 12:58, 15 December 2024 (UTC) (the reviewer)2

@Leafy46 and BarntToust: any person who proposes a hook cannot approve it, so another reviewer is needed for ALT1 and ALT1a. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:30, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

• New reviewer needed for ALT1 and ALT1a. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:15, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

• @AirshipJungleman29 and BlueMoonset: Terribly sorry about that, I didn't realize that was a rule. Could ALT1a at least be moved forward then, given that it was written by the nominator themselves? I don't want to hold this nomination back simply because of an error on my part given that it's been in the limbo for quite a bit, and I have otherwise completed a review of the article's prose. Leafy46 (talk) 18:21, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

I personally wouldn't approve ALT1a as it's a rather complex hook with too many details. It mentions too many names and seems to lack focus on what it actually wants to focus on: the 12-year-old skateboarder, or Onodera being the youngest athlete to sign with Nike. If the nominator likes ALT1 itself, then it can be approved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC)