Talk:Scouting in North Carolina

Historical council information to be folded in

Historical council information to be folded in -Kintetsubuffalo (talk • contribs) 11:58, 20 September 2006

• Hook, James; Franck, Dave; Austin, Steve (1982). An Aid to Collecting Selected Council Shoulder Patches with Valuation.

• North Carolina Concord Council 1917 1918
• North Carolina Gastonia Council 1917 1918
• North Carolina 415 Catawba River Council 1923 1927 ended 1927
• North Carolina 423 Southern Pines Council 1919 1924 ended 1924
• North Carolina 419 High Point Council 1917 1923 changed name to Uwharrie 419 1923
• North Carolina 418 Greensboro Council 1918 1947 changed name to General Greene 418 1947
• North Carolina 418 General Greene Council 1947 1992January 13 merged into Old North State 70 1992 January 13
• North Carolina 419 Uwharrie Council 1923 1992January 13 merged into Old North State 70 1992 January 13
• North Carolina 417 Cherokee Council 1923 1994 April 1 merged into Old North State 70 1994 April 1
• North Carolina 70 Old North State Council 1992 January 13
• North Carolina 414 Asheville Council 1919 1922 Buncombe County 414 1922
• North Carolina 414 Buncombe County Council 1922 1925 Daniel Boone 414 1925
• North Carolina 414 Daniel Boone Council 1925
• North Carolina 415 Charlotte Council 1940 1942 Mecklenburg County 415 1942
• North Carolina 415 Mecklenburg County Council 1942
• North Carolina 416 Charlotte Council 1915 1937 Central North Carolina 416 1937
• North Carolina 416 Central North Carolina Council 1937
• North Carolina 420 Piedmont Council 1924
• North Carolina 421 Raleigh Council 1919 1921 ended reformed 1923 1921
• North Carolina 421 Raleigh Council 1923 1925 changed name to Wake County 421 1925
• North Carolina 421 Wake County Council 1925 1929 merged into Occoneechee 421 1929
• North Carolina 696 Durham County Council 1925 1929 merged into Occoneechee 421 1929
• North Carolina 423 Walter Hines Page Council 1924 1930 merged into Occoneechee 421 1930
• North Carolina 421 Occoneechee Council 1929
• North Carolina 424 Tuscarora Council 1923
• North Carolina 425 Wilmington Council 1916 1926 changed name to New Hanover County 425 1926
• North Carolina 425 New Hanover County Council 1926 1930 changed name to Cape Fear Area 425 1930
• North Carolina 425 Cape Fear Area Council 1930 1989 changed name to Cape Fear 425 1989
• North Carolina 425 Cape Fear Council 1989
• North Carolina 422 Rocky Mount Council 1919 1923 changed name to Tar Heel Area 422 1923
• North Carolina 415 Neuse Council 1928 1930 merged into Wilson County 426 1930
• North Carolina 686 Pamlico Council 1924 1927 merged into Wilson County 426 1930
• North Carolina 426 Wilson County Council 1924 1932 merged into East Carolina 426 1932
• North Carolina 422 Tar Heel Area Council 1923 1934 merged into East Carolina 426 1934
• North Carolina 426 East Carolina Council 1932
• North Carolina 427 Winston-Salem Area Council 1917 1942 changed name to Old Hickory 427 1942
• North Carolina 427 Old Hickory Council 1942

References

• @Jayron32: If you are updating the section on the current councils, you may want to fold some of this information into your work. --evrik ^(talk) 17:56, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

• Thanks. I'm in process right now of updating current council structure only. Some of the history stuff and how councils and districts have been folded and reorganized and renamed over the years is out of the scope of my current work. If you want to update the history in its own section, feel free. I'm also working on cleaning up a lot of the formatting problems, mostly in line with WP:ELNO, as there were a TON of external links we don't normally do. Maybe at the end one link per council is appropriate, but including every district and OA lodge as a full in-text external link is very wrong in WP:MOS house-style. --Jayron32 18:32, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

• NC is not my current focus. I did however add some of the history to: Occoneechee_Council#History. --evrik ^(talk) 20:58, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Raven Knob article?

Does anyone think that Camp Raven Knob is significant enough for its own article or would it get deleted? It does host a LOT of scouts every summer, one of the biggest in the country I seem to remember. FinalWish (talk) 16:44, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

I had to Google to find that it belongs to Old Hickory Council, which redirects to this article. You really need to start the parent council article first, with the camp as a section. See Stonewall Jackson Area Council and Tidewater Council for examples. See also WP:SCOUTMOS. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 17:46, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Camp Bud Schiele

Camp Bud Schiele is not notable on its own and it can go under the Piedmont Council subheader. Deflagro ^Contribs/_Talk 21:55, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Support merge per nom.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 01:25, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Merged. --evrik ^(talk) 21:01, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Formatting

@Jayron32: I restored the formatting that has been used in many of the state pages. I think about half of them were standardized five years ago, but with fifty pages ... you can find examples of everything. NC was one of the ones not done, which is why I made the edits know. Someplace, the scouting MOS talks about this. --evrik ^(talk) 21:15, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Can we remove the CN tags? If you're insistent on the silly section headers, fine. But it isn't required that a footnote is needed for each individual sentence, merely that information is verifiable, and the source is obvious. Every section has a source in the accompanying infobox. --Jayron32 11:21, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Most of the facts on this page are not referenced. This is why the effort to clean up the state pages stalled. Cite what you can. Leave the tags where they are. Hopefully someone will see them and fix them. --evrik ^(talk) 18:36, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

They are referenced. Literally every section has a link to the page where the information is found; it's not footnoted after every sentence, but that level of referencing isn't needed except for the most contentious information. Things like district organization and location of summer camps is not contentious or controversial in any way. For example, the Cape Fear Council section currently has an easy to find link to https://www.capefearcouncilbsa.org/. The districts and camping information is obvious and easy to find on that page. We don't need to also add a footnote after every sentence; the link is sufficient. The style of these sections, which is mostly in list and not flowing prose form, doesn't owe itself to easy footnoting; material doesn't have to be footnoted, merely conspicuously verifiable. Arguably, this information is better referenced than with a footnote, because the link is MUCH more prominent and doesn't require any footnote chasing. --Jayron32 18:48, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean. The Early history (1910-1950) section is four paragraphs, with one citation. Per Wikipedia:Verifiability, I would say that every paragraph should have at least one reference. --evrik ^(talk) 19:15, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

I just went through most of the page and I removed a few tags. Everything else is easily citable. --evrik ^(talk) 03:22, 21 May 2022 (UTC)