Talk:Schafkopf

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Bermicourt in topic Other contracts

Schaffkopf

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This is the spelling I was looking up. I saw it in Mastering Regular Expressions (Jeffrey E.F. Friedl 2002, 2nd edn., O'Reilly). Google has two other hits, including Virtual Tourist: Munich, which offers an etymology that would explain the name. Thnidu 20:48, 17 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

The normally used spelling which is seen as correct in modern Bavaria is 'Schafkopf', but the etymology says that it was originally spelled 'Schaffkopf' because it was played on Schaff's (barrels). Only some hardliners insist on the original spelling. I suggest to add this information in a etymology section and redirect 'Schaffkopf' to 'Schafkopf'. Martin Scharrer (talk) 12:30, 21 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

 Y Done. Bermicourt (talk) 10:32, 28 August 2018 (UTC)Reply
Oh, and it is also called 'Schafkopfen' and, in Austria, 'Schafschädel', although the latter may be an 'Ur-Schafkopf' game. Bermicourt (talk) 18:19, 19 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Other contracts

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Other known contracts (trumps or objective in brackets) include:

  • Positive soloist games: Eisenbahner (10s), Farbeisenbahner (10s any suit), König (assume Ks), Farbkönig (assume Ks suit), Adler (Ks - see Sauspiel), Bart (Ks), Farbbart (Ks any suit), Spatz (7s - Sauspiel)
  • Unknown games: Monarchen (Ks?), hüstel (prob. = "ahem"), rofl (prob. "rolling on the floor laughing")
  • Partner games: Hochzeit (1 trump offer - P)
  • Negative games: trump Bettel, PFD or Pfd (O, U - L), Open Bettel (Aufgelegter..; declarer plays ouverte after 1st trick - L) Bettel (none - II, M, P), Bettel Brett (none - II, M), Brändel = Bettel and ranks just above Ruf.
  • Force procedure (all pass): Muss-Spiel ( O plays Rufer; no Stoß, 60/61 to win - M), Renonce (Muss,  O must call Ace in void suit - M, any time - P), Ramsch (O, U and Durchmarsch/Durchbruch - L, M), Stock (all pay Stock to next Rufer which declarers (if won) or double (if lost) - M), Stock (all pay Stock towards next partner game; won by declarer only; alongside Ramsch - P)
  • Force Rounds (other events): Bock (agreed events: all games doubled - M, II) Hadschader (lost Solo: forehand plays; auto Stoß - M), Hadsch (or Hatsch = Hadschader), Kreuzrunde (every Solo: 4 deals, fixed Xwise partners, as Rufer - L), Kreuz (= Kreuzrunde?), Rock (= Kreuzrunde), Schieber (e.g. Tout:  O  O shoved, picker plays Solo - M; ditto but  O also allowed - P)
  • Variations from lebenskarneval.de: Alle Spielvarianten sind die folgenden: Sauspiel, Farbsolo, Wenz, Geier, Farbwenz und Farbgeier, Tout und Sie, Ramsch, Durchmarsch und Jungfrau, Bettel (Null und Ramsch Tout), Hochzeit, Kreuzbock, Pflichtspiel. Die lokalen Spielvarianten sind: Bahnhofsramsch, Blindramsch, Rotationsramsch, Allgäuer Runde, Hadsch, Minas, Schieberrunden und Teufelsrunde, Strixner, Zupf-Solo und die Letzte Runde.
  • Variations from Merschbacher: Farb-Wenz, Geier, Farb-Geier, Hochzeit, Bauernhochzeit, Stock, Muss-Spiel, Renonce, Ramsch, Bettel, Bettel-Brett, Pfd, Hatschate, Steigern, Legen, Blind verdoppeln, Bock, Bocklegen, Kreuz-Runde, Schieber, Teufels-Runde, Zupf-Solo, Klopfen, Kurze Karte, Dreier, Fünfer, Spiel zu Fünft, Solo-Runde, Offiziers-Schafkopf.

M = Merschbacher (2009); P = Peschel (1990), II = Isar Interactive, L = Langendorf rules.

When I find WP:RS for them I'll add them too. Bermicourt (talk) 18:55, 12 January 2023 (UTC)Reply