Talk:Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

Timing of appointment of PM.

Sir Keir is listed as incumbent PM, but doesn't that happen when the King asks him to form the next Government? DavidFarmbrough (talk) 05:09, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

@DavidFarmbrough: No, in practice he's PM immediately, the constitutional formalism doesn't adjust reality. All processes like COBRA/etc. know that Starmer is now the PM. James F. (talk) 10:25, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

@DavidFarmbrough: Constitutionally, he's not PM until the monarch invites him to form a government, which will happen soon now his predecessor has resigned as PM. Meanwhile, we live in an absolute monarchy ;-), which is nice. Bazza 7 (talk) 10:36, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

To quote specifically from the Cabinet Manual:

The Prime Minister accepts office at a private audience with the Sovereign, at which time the appointment takes effect.

… so I suppose we can hold for the next few minutes, though I'm not sure it serves readers very well. James F. (talk) 10:47, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

[Secondary thread, merging. James F. (talk) 10:53, 5 July 2024 (UTC)]

I understand that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia where people can create or change pages/sections but can there be a rule where people with common sense are able to make changes? Why am I seeing modifications from people changing Rishi Sunak to Keir Starmer when he hasn't resigned as PM officially from HM The King? SferaEbbasta87 (talk) 07:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

@SferaEbbasta87: I agree, but it's easy to revert such changes when you see them, as I and others have been doing. It won't be for long. Bazza 7 (talk) 08:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Term Length

Should the term length be ‘Up to Five Years’ instead of ‘At His Majesty’s Pleasure’? Formally it’s true that the PM serves at the King’s pleasure, but that’s not actually true - the PM’s term is five years or shorter if they wish to call the election early.

To have it describe the formal term length instead of the actual term length is inconsistent with the recent decision to say that the incumbent is Keir Starmer before he was asked by the king to form a government, which he formally wasn’t. Furthermore, ‘Up to Five Years’ is a far more relevant and helpful piece of information to have. Jayfin-1 (talk) 11:54, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Request to update and add new information

In the section “Authority, Powers and Constraints” there needs to be some new information accessing the legislative powers, executive powers and the royal prerogative powers of the British Prime Minister in policy making and the eligibility. Can anyone on this article write and add the following needed information to this page? Altonydean (talk) 11:59, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

I suppose for legislative powers we could have a brief explanation of how the PM gets their party to vote with them with the Whips system, parliamentary party rebellions, votes being confidence issue, etc.?

I don’t think we need a separate section for executive powers and royal prerogatives, since RPs are a form of executive power. We could have a list of RPs, followed by an explanation of secondary legislation, maybe with own or two examples of executive powers the PM has been granted by parliament through specific acts - e.g. The War Act of 1914 and The Coronavirus Act of 2020. Jayfin-1 (talk) 15:12, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Exactly, but there is no need to write a new section. Just write on the existing “Authority, power and constraints” section instead. But you do need to add three sub sections on legislative powers as well as executive powers and the royal prerogative powers which are omitted from this section rather disproportionately. Although it should be explained in a detailed manner so readers could understand. If you are willing to add such information, please do, the article needs urgent attention. Thank you. Altonydean (talk) 16:13, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Improvement request

This page lacks information regarding the powers of the Prime Minister. I have made this suggestion earlier to some editors but none so far have agreed to do so or discuss such changes. Powers of the Prime Minister needs comprehensive and detailed information especially regarding specific powers such as executive power, legislative power, prerogative power and appointment of ministers. None have been added or written about in any of these sections. Needs significant expansion and changes mentioned above if this page is to help ensure that the role of the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom is understood in the way that it is intended. I cannot edit this page due to a recurring personal health issues and not being gifted in the area of constitutional law and political knowledge. Therefore, if editors can add the aforementioned information it would be a great achievement. This is not an instruction or order to anyone, but a suggestion. Thank you and good luck. Altonydean (talk) 16:39, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 October 2024

94.196.221.231 (talk) 19:30, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

KEIIR STAYRMER

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Danski454 (talk) 21:19, 15 October 2024 (UTC)