Talk:Original English-language manga

Definition

In general, I wouldn't concider ALL nonasian oriented mangas to be Amerimanga, but rather Euromanga or Eigomanga. Amerimanga brings "Amerime" to mind. Manga from anywhere, even Japan, that has terrible character designs, usually it's an American Artist who trys to encorperate simplistic Anime style instead of detailed Manga style. Hellsing manga & Labyrinth manga (chinese artist) have artists who can draw clothes, props, landscapes, the earlier does great hair, but the overall design is sloppy. Anime style hair is very different from manga style hair. Comparing several mangas designs to their anime counterparts character designs is a good way to learn. But there are some Americans who study actual manga & end up making very good, believable character designs. In Amerime, the big offence is using outdated designs; going for the Slayers/Speed Racer/Astro Boy look that was popular in the 90s/70s/60s. LikaLaruku 8:28 pm 27 November 2006

Arabic Manga

Previous material is on the Manga talk page. BTW, the Arabic for "manga" is (مانغا (مجلة -- but I do not read Arabic, and cannot say anything about the Arabic sources. Here are some facts. Add opinions about what, if anything, to include in the article.

1) "Canary 1001" is an Arabic manga = manga published in Arabic (and some English in Roman script) and seems to be done by a group calling themselves Amateam. The director gives his name as Mr. Wahid Jodar, from the United Arab Emirates (for the artists' profile and more details, see http://amateam.deviantart.com/). Covers of "Canary 1001" can be seen in part at http://amateam.deviantart.com/ and artwork at http://www.deviantart.com/print/13298972/?itemtypeids= The cover has a copyright notice, saying "DoReMi 2010."

2) Another Arab language manga is "Gold Ring," by Qais Sedeki, from 2009, and also from the United Arab Emirates. (Nitin Nair 2009 "Manga: Qais Sedeki's graphic obsession." http://gulfnews.com/arts-entertainment/books/manga-qais-sedeki-s-graphic-obsession-1.504820). Qais Sedeki's profile can be found at http://www.pageflip.ae/profile.html (click on English if you can't read the Arabic) and some artwork here http://www.goldring.ae

My impression is that the Gulfnews article and the artists' profiles are reliable. Both groups of artists use the English-language word "manga" for their work.

Timothy Perper (talk) 17:00, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Forgot something -- phooey. I am not at all sure that manga in Arabic belongs in an article about Original English Language manga. But then where does it belong? Timothy Perper (talk) 17:11, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Just for an analogy, the global BL section in the yaoi article looks at American and German creators. this new book uses the terms OEL manga and global manga. My understanding is that Manga outside Japan's current remit is on documenting Japanese manga publishing worldwide, rather than looking at the influence of the manga style in comics around the world. influence of the manga style in comics around the world - doesn't exactly roll off the tongue, does it? --Malkinann (talk) 23:45, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

I had the same reaction. Manga outside Japan doesn't seem like the right place, and I can't find anywhere else either. So this stuff probably will simply sit in the talk pages until a genuine international manga article is created. Timothy Perper (talk) 07:02, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Identification guidelines... anyone?

Having read this to find out, I still have no clue. How do you tell an OEL-manga from, say, a graphic novel/comicbook/whatever? How about from a comic book by an author who's familiar with both western and eastern works? Is there a difference between an east-west fusion _comic_ and an east-west fusion _manga_, or not? PS not teasing or flaming, I really don't know. never read anything but manga. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.183.124.21 (talk) 19:17, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Drawing style and narrative techniques should be heavily inspired from Japanese tradition. This a widespread phenomenon, and should merit more information outside the English world. South Korea is a case in itself, where I think that most of the comics published has internalized whole drawing styles and narrative structures, to such an extent that they are hard to distinguish at a first glance. 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 16:19, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

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