Talk:National Security Law Journal

Listings

Not terribly helpful, but this turns up in some listings elsewhere:

• One of three journals listed by this William & Mary Law school career guide
• Listed among numerous student publications by Kutztown

Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 21:27, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

One of the removed references, to "A Guide to National Security Law Research". The George Washington University Law Library does actually seem relevant to me. This shows a wider awareness outside the school where the journal is published. Taken alone, I don't think any of these listings are terribly significant, but seeing three of them is suggestive. Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 21:32, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

• You're welcome to put that "reference" back, but I find it just trivial. Libraries will often put up a short notice about new journals without that meaning that they recommend it or something like that. --Randykitty (talk) 07:18, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Maybe, but that's clearly not what that reference is about. It's a guide to doing research on national security, developed by the university that is arguably the center of national security academic work in the United States. The included sources are generally prominent and reliable.Nathan ^T 20:42, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

mention by American Bar Association

A reference from the American Bar Association was in this article earlier: <ref name="ABA">{{cite web|title=Standing Committee on Law & National Security|url=http://www.americanbar.org/groups/public_services/law_national_security.html|publisher=American Bar Association|accessdate=15 January 2014}}</ref> Perhaps this is not a good reference because there is no permalink. However, currently there is a sidebar that says: "National Security Law Journal Releases Flagship Issue The National Security Law Journal (NSLJ) is George Mason University’s newest law journal. NSLJ is one of only a handful of law journals dedicated exclusively to national security law and policy. - Volume 1, Issue 1 - Spring 2013".

In the aggregate, with the listings above, this just passes the bar of notability for me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jodi.a.schneider (talk • contribs)

• If you think that you should remove the PROD and I'll take the article to AfD. However, the ABA mention is much like the library mentions above and does not imply any endorsement and is even less an in-depth (or even superficial) discussion of the journal. --Randykitty (talk) 07:24, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Randykitty, I removed the prod. Please ping me if you take this to AfD. The criteria for inclusion of academic journals is pretty light, mostly because there is no good reason to bar obscure journals from reputable universities (a description that matches many, many journals). And the criteria are, as always, guidelines. Notability is a tool to help ensure compliance with core policies... In this case, the article doesn't fail RS, NPOV, undue, etc. So I see no reason for it to be deleted. Nathan ^T 20:45, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

That does not take away that this journal, like almost any new journal, does not meet WP:NJournals (designed to mare it easier for journals to be included), even less GNG. I'm also surprised that you rated this B-class and let it get past AFC with copyvio photos in it... (not to mention promotional language like "on of the three top journals", for a journal that was established last year, really?) I realize that people at AfC are overburdened and appreciate their efforts, but, really... --Randykitty (talk) 13:26, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

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