Talk:Musk family

Latest comment: 12 days ago by 189.250.190.205 in topic POC article!

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Why go with this complicated article title instead of simply 'Errol Musk'? Am I missing some context? QRep2020 (talk) 23:26, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Without fulltext access to the paywalled Afrikaans sources, I wasn't sure we could do justice to an actual biography of his life at this time -- most of the English-language sources merely document his controversial relationships with son, wife, and step-daughter-turned-wife. Feoffer (talk) 04:05, 12 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
That is not how Wikipedia works. I would name it Errol Musk, make a Personal life section, and call the article a stub (incomplete, work in progress). Hikeddeck (talk) 01:26, 25 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
It does look like that's what's gonna wind up happening here. Feoffer (talk) 02:07, 25 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

What makes this notable?

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Generally for a page to be notable, it has to be independently notable. Errol Musk is not in any way notable other than his relation to Elon Musk. Ergzay (talk) 01:43, 12 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Errol Musk is not in any way notable other than his relation to Elon Musk That's demonstrably false: His political career (72-83) was covered extensively. e.g: "Reaction against the Establishment." (9 Mar 1972) Pretoria News, and "The reported resignation of Errol Musk, the PFP candidate for Sunnyside (Pretoria) election the 1981 elections was made a front-page story. Die Burger. 4 October 1983." Feoffer (talk) 05:12, 12 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Nominated for Deletion

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If you want to join the discussion head over to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Familial relationships of Errol Musk. Ergzay (talk) 06:33, 12 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 9 November 2024

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Per discussion below. A hatnote can be used to differentiate the family name and the deer. Best, (closed by non-admin page mover) Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 05:23, 17 November 2024 (UTC)Reply


Family of Elon MuskMusk family – Although Elon Musk is the most notable member of the family, several of the family members are independently notable. PhotographyEdits (talk) 21:28, 9 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Use of the surname in the article

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I suspect that this article is being watched by people dying to revert edits, so that's why I'm posting this here and not making the edits myself, but the surname is used 215 times in this article (including in titles), and in a number of places it's very difficult to know which "Musk" is being referred to. "Musk said this," "Musk did that"; which Musk?! If both parties are named Musk, surely first names need to be used. I'm not familiar with many articles about families (although I know they exist) but, if Errol said X about Elon, or Elon said Y about Maye, surely their first names (alone) need to be used for clarity. --24.80.199.58 (talk) 03:18, 25 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Agreed. Bloody nuisance to have to go back to repeatedly reread to figure out which "Musk" is being referred to. Then you throw in a male author (Walter Isaacson), add a "he" and you're left wondering who the frock the "he" is actually referring to. Fionaussie (talk) 18:23, 29 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I think we both must have foundered at the same spot, as I think that was when I decided to post this comment. --24.80.199.58 (talk) 03:33, 2 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
For reasons of immediate clarity and disambiguation, it is a good idea to consistently replace the use of the surname in this article with the use of the first name. As far as I am concerned, the change can be implemented throughout. VampaVampa (talk) 22:42, 8 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

POC article!

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This is so convoluted, it has no chance! Errol's love life is more coherent.

189.250.190.205 (talk) 06:07, 9 December 2024 (UTC) baden k.Reply