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Don't know where to put this: 404 error coming on footnote 8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathi_language#cite_note-8

"Abstract of Language Strength in India: 2001 Census". Censusindia.gov.in. Retrieved 2013-05-09.

On the referenced website, I see a sub section called linguistic survey of India but I don't see what the footnote seems to verify, namely the breakdown of how many people speak the various languages in India. If I search 'language strength' I am taken to this section also. http://www.censusindia.gov.in/2011-documents/lsi/ling_survey_india.html

I apologize if this isn't the right place to bring this up. I never have contributed before.

Quillman (talk) 23:17, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Request for Comment: Konkani Section

This is a dispute regarding the Konkani section . The disagreement is about how the section should be worded. Refer to section " Why the Sahitya Akademi verdict should be put in the Konkani section" for details of previous discussion. 07:14, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

It is more than a month since this RFC has been put up. Since no one is interested in discussing it , I feel I am justified in reincluding the line I had put up. --Deepak D'Souza (talk • contribs) 11:48, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

The controversial remarks were edited out and the present contents are full-proof. I request Deepak to not speak on behalf of all Konkanis. I am myself a Konkani and like lakhs of Konkanis in Maharashtra,we do think it is Marathi's dialect.The contents are balanced. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.95.29.38 (talk) 05:00, 18 April 2007 (UTC).

Struck out Sarvabhaum IP. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:24, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Why do I get the feeling that this anonymous chap may be User:Maharashtraexpress???. Anyway . I have waited long enough for this RFC. All this time you weren't interested in discussing it, and nobody else was. Now that I have changed the content you come along and demand that you have your way. Now you claim that you are a Konkani to justify a biased line. Doesn't fool anyone. --Deepak D'Souza (talk • contribs) 05:54, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

One more thing , even if you are Konkani as you claim, please read this : WP:CAI. --Deepak D'Souza (talk • contribs) 06:24, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Sharad Raghav Rane

Sharad Raghav Rane has been nominated for deletion. I think we need to ask some Marathi speakers about his notability. Ventifax 07:44, 1 April 2007 (UTC) (see also list of India-related deletions)

what about the influence of kannada on Marathi ??

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'The deplorable attempt to change Marathi "la" with Hindi "La"'Bold text

On one hand the text tells about how marathi is different in certain ways than Hindi and then goes on to use Hindi "la" all throughout the text. This can be easily seen by comparing the "la" in The main text with the text in the green colour roadsign board shown as an example of Marathi. There has been a deliberate attempt to wipe out Marathi "la" and replacing it with hindi style "la" even in the text books produced by Maharashtra Government's Pathya Pustak Mandal (BalBharati). A poor defence is that font/typeface for Marathi "la" is not available. That is just a way of covering up lethargy that has set-in among the language experts. Dr. Hemant Datye, Pune By SAURABH.L — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.79.179.99 (talk) 14:26, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

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Wrong use of chandrabindi

In the following content: "There are two more vowels in Marathi to denote the pronunciations of English words such as of 'a' in act and 'a' in all. These are written as 'अँ' and 'आँ'. The IPA signs for these are /æ/ and /ɔ/, respectively." अँ and आँ have a chandrabindi and not a ardhachandra (which is correct). The pronounication of these symbols in marathi would be with a nasal sound for example chandrabindi would be used to write 'Bank' in devnagari while ardhachandra should be written to write 'Back' in devanagari. I hope I have explained it without confusing further. I did not know how to change it in Devnagari so thought I would leave a note. --Kaveri 18:22, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

New articles of Marathi grammar and Marathi phonology are created as they are occupying considerable space here and they deserve seperate articles.(Stateofart 13:00, 18 October 2007 (UTC))

Corrected. But because there is no widely accepted way to write अॅ in Unicode (the way suggested by Unicode, U 0972 ॲ, yet hasn't gained enough support from fonts), some readers may see it not rendered properly. Here I use the sequence <U 0905, U 0945>, which is rendered properly under Mac OS X, but may not be so under Windows or Linux. But it is the most resonable ad hoc solution for this letter. 梁海 (talk) 12:13, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

GA Review?

How about nominating this article for Good Article ? - Swapnil —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slimmer Eric Cartman (talk • contribs) 11:09, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Marathi is product of the Pali language

Dear Friends, It's purposely being propagated that the Marathi is product of the Prakrit. This is not 100% true.

Marathi is the product of the Pali language and the script modi is outcome of the Pali script made complex so that common people will not easily understand it.

If you study Pali language you will find that the most of the Marathi words are derived of this language. If we say that Marathi is product of the Pali, then people will start study of the Pali as mother language of Marathi. This way all the Buddhist literature will be easily understood by them. This was the fear in the minds of the brilliant Brahmins so when saying that Marathi is product of Prakrit they tried to take common people away from Pali; and thus putting a common man away from the reach teaching of the Buddhism.

I am not spreading Buddhism here. I am not Buddhist. But when I started studying (with curiosity to understand meditation)the pali literature of Theravada I found that this language is very close to the Marathi that is being spoke in village areas. The Puneri Marathi is basically rich with Sanskrit.

Why pure marathi is being propagated in the world? Just again to make difference in common public. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.54.41.53 (talk) 06:12, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi, welcome to Wikipedia!. Please understand that Wikipedia has some rules. One of them is that the talk page is to discuss the "article" and not the subject of the article itself. Another rule is that we need reliable references. Do you have any scholarly references that say that Marathi has emerged from Pali. Please let us know the names of the books (or online sources if there are any) so that we can discuss this issue further. --Deepak D'Souza 17:51, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Pali language is a special case of Sanskrit Prakrit language. Prakrit language was the language of people as opposed to Sanskrit which was used to write spiritual texts. Over a great history of Indian languages, Prakrit diverged into 3 main streams Sauraseni, Magadhi, and Maharashtri. please consider reading main article on Prakrit.--Onef9day (talk) 18:57, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

This is in reference to above mentioned statement that "Marathi is product of Pali Language"The word Maharashtra has derived from Sanskrit word Maharashtri. The Sanskrit name of marathi language is Maharashtri. The process of marathi language is as follow

   Sanskrit---Prakrit---Apabhamshi---Shauryaseni----Magadhi----Marathi

This language does not belongs to PALI — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.79.176.20 (talk) 12:17, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

About Shravanabelagola inscription

Chavundaraje karaviyale ,gangaraje suttale karaviyale

it can be transliterated to modern Marathi as:

Chamundarajane kele ani gangarajane te sagalikade karun ghetle

and not as : chamundaraja got it done the son of gangaraja!

Nijgoykar (talk) 07:24, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Maharashtra#Marathi_statement_dispute

There is dispute on Talk:Maharashtra#Marathi_statement_dispute about the definition of standard Marathi language. It affects Marathi (lead), Maharashtra and Pune articles. Please help to form a consensus by giving your valuable comments. A request is also put at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/All#Language_and_linguistics. Thanks. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 05:34, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

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Marathi Language agitation?

Should the agitation by Raj Thackeray about Marathi sign boards & Marathi call-centers be included in this article? I think they should be coz i guess this would be the only language for which such agitation was made. It being controversial, i am asking views here. -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 18:17, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

About the loanwords!

Marathi,and for the matter even Konakni तूप is not a Kannada loanword moreover it comes Prakrit तऊप,Sanskrit version of which is तनुनुप which means clarified butter,and the kananda word tuppa is a Prakrit loanword into Kannada.so is the case with bega,coming form Sanskit word वेग. Though there are hundreds of common verbs in Marathi and Kannada,it does not mean that they are derived from Kannada,all it means that the verbs have same Dravidian roots!

who gave this theory..it could be kannada word found in prakrit or what is the proof that tuppa was in prakrit..similarly both bega and vega words exist in kannada..if the words found in marathi is same as kannada most likely marathi has loaned words from kannada barring exact sanskrit words..

Can you check number of kannada inscriptions and kannada names in maharasthra from your history books...

Nijgoykar (talk) 04:53, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanjavur Marathi

I speak Thanjavur Marathi. In the illustration section of the article on Thanjavur Marathi, I have put some sentences both in my mother tongue and Puneri marathi. For those who can read/write it well, please correct the Puneri marathi parts, without editing the Thanjavur Marathi parts, as my Puneri marathi may not be as good as yours. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.192.128.91 (talk) 15:58, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

10^

In the section “Vocabulary” # “Counting”, it lists powers of ten, but the higher powers are hard to read because of the profusion of zeros. please, someone change them (everything 10⁴ and greater, I recommend) to scientific notation ( “10^N”; “1 × 10^N” is clutter; two unnecessary characters). --Solomonfromfinland (talk) 09:56, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

dil

dil dosti — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.179.156.50 (talk) 09:37, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Call for volunteering to report bugs for VisualEditor Universal Language Selector input: Marathi and Hindi

Hello,

While technically unicode input has been enabled in VisualEditor,It is long way to practically usable for indic languages.Since most developers would not be using Universal Language Selector input methods and would not be knowing indic languages such as Marathi and Hindi it would be defficult for them to understand problem areas.

Only few people doing effort is not enough.We need more volunteering specially indic people on english wikipedia atleast know what is Visual Editor by now.Please do take a lead to test Universale language input methods for indic languages in VE environment.Please report problems at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback.For a while please do keep aside your individual aprehensions about Visual Editor and come forward to report problems. Your lead will benefit indic wikipedias.

Thanks in advance.

Mahitgar (talk) 07:36, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

TRAIT

TRAIT — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.219.241.85 (talk) 13:24, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

I don't know true history but marathi is language of Maharashtra and India. So we should not discriminate. We all are unite. Wikibhushan (talk) 16:17, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Marathi language materials

https://archive.org/details/compendiumofmole00mole

https://archive.org/details/dictionaryenglis00molerich

https://archive.org/details/agrammarmahratt00ballgoog

https://archive.org/details/grammarofmarathi00belluoft

https://archive.org/details/agrammarmahratt00caregoog

https://archive.org/details/agrammarmahratt01caregoog

https://archive.org/details/grammaticaltreat00wilb

https://archive.org/details/principlesofmura00stevrich

https://archive.org/details/marathigujarati00brit

https://archive.org/details/catalogueofmara00brit

https://archive.org/details/cataloguemarath01blumgoog

https://archive.org/details/supplcatalogueof00brituoft

https://archive.org/details/catalogueofmarat00brituoft

https://archive.org/details/catalogueofmarat1915brit

https://archive.org/details/sukabahattaridie00sukauoft

https://archive.org/details/sukasap00suka

Rajmaan (talk) 23:42, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Assistance, please

The article on the new film Sata Lota Pan Sagla Khota could use help with sourcing. Thanks. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 03:16, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Incorrect color

Incorrect color on the legend of the infobox. It says light blue but it displays white. Can somebody fix this please. 37.210.60.174 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 06:20, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

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language of big heart

It's not just a language it's a pride. It's a feeling. You get tears of joy when you heard that language. I love it. Wikibhushan (talk) 16:12, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

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1. राज्य सरकारी कर्मचारी मध्यवर्ती संघटना, महाराष्ट्र राज्य महत्त्वाच्या बाबी.

राज्य सरकारी कर्मचारी यांचे प्रश्न साेडवणारी महत्त्वाची संघटना म्हणून महाराष्ट्रभर नावलौकिक आहे, प्रत्येक जिल्ह्य़ात संघटनेचे जाळे पसरले आहे. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Santosh A. Ambatkar Union Leader (talk • contribs) 13:41, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

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Use of Modi script in the Title.

Previously Marathi was also written in Modi script.Modi should be used in this article. SPJ5Mr (talk) 13:28, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Date of Marathi literature

According to the text, the "Encyclopædia Britannica 2007 Ultimate Reference Suite" supports that "The language has some of the oldest literature of all modern Indian languages, dating from around 600 AD." I don't have access to this source (I presume it's a print publication) so I can't validate this statement, but it is not reflected in the version of the article in the online Britannica which doesn't mention Marathi at all. The online article "Marathi literature" however contradicts it, stating Marathi literature dates to about 1000 CE. Hairy Dude (talk) 13:51, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Vowel missing

Marathi has one more vowel - ऌ found only in one word - कॢप्ति. The word is not in much use, however, it does exist in grammar books. ऌ is pronounced the same as लृ. Arnav Bhate (talk) 06:01, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Maharashtri Prakrit is derived from Sanskrit

Why is everyone implementing incorrect informations in The Marathi Language Page? All the Prakrit languages were derived from Vedic Sanskrit and it has been universally accepted... Go and check the 'Prakrit and Hindi Languages Wikipedi' and you'll see those languages having 'Vedic Sanskrit' as their ancestor. so why can't Vedic Sanskrit be ancestor to Marathi also? Arkam Knight (talk) 08:40, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

See your talk page. Marathi is indeed derived from Sanskrit, but it is probably not derived from attested Vedic. 2601:642:4780:6B0:4909:4440:CB55:AFEE (talk) 17:32, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

So is it accurate to place "Sanskrit" as the ancestor of "Marathi" language in this page? not "Vedic Sanskrit", I said "Sanskrit". Arkam Knight (talk) 18:41, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Marathi as a classical language in India..

Hello! I always wondered, that what are the requirements for a particular language to gain "classical language" title in India? cuz "Marathi" has been qualified for the status of classical language I guess, it has a history of at least 2300 years, it's even in its modern form is much more pure, it has it's own script "Modi Script" as well.. So why doesn't the Indian Government grant Marathi the status of "Classical Language" ? Arkam Knight (talk) 04:15, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Are these grammatical features really so unusual?

In the grammar section, it is noted that "unusually" Marathi uses participle forms which resemble those of Dravidian languages, and has an "inclusive we" distinction. However these statements are as true of Punjabi, Hindustani, Gujarati, Sindhi and others as they are of Marathi and it may perhaps be the case that they are properties most Indo-Aryan languages have in common with each other and not ones peculiar to Marathi. Part of the theory behind "India as a linguistic area" holds that these shared traits are areal features observable in most languages of the subcontinent, just like we see retroflex consonants available in languages as distant as Pashto and Tamil. I do not know enough about Marathi to reword this properly but this could use some review (John Beames's comparative grammar would come in handy here). عُثمان (talk) 04:03, 15 March 2023 (UTC)