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This article is a mess. speculation, opinion, comparisons that are inappropriate a la "Escort Sized" and MG5...evokes the MGB" The MG5 has no MGB styling cues or throwback nods other than the octagon logo. Someone needs to put some real effort into this thread. 24.22.147.151 (talk) 05:25, 7 October 2016 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.22.147.151 (talk) 05:23, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
Why are the models not up-to-date?
editSpecifically, why does it say the MG5 is a petrol-powered hatchback or a petrol-powered sedan, when in reality it is an electric (BEV) estate car? And why does it mention the MG One, which is not available in the UK AFAIK? There may be other examples but it seems the page is confused about what products are sold by this UK company. (PS FWIW, the first paragraph about the ownership etc seems perfectly reasonable today 2021-12-27) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.97.62.77 (talk) 20:47, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
- OK, here goes:
- 1. Wikipedia is global, not UK-centric, so models will vary accordingly
- 2. Wikipedia content is created by volunteer contributors - there's no compulsion on anyone
- 3. Wikipedia is not a news organisation
- 4. Wikipedia content is based on, and dependent upon, press reports and other published sources. Content should not contain the thoughts of any individual. Normally, content is determined and displayed appropriately by people who have an interest in/knowledge of the particular topic.
- 5. If you can demonstrate any shortcomings or errors by showing the published basis(es), then please annotate it in this Talk section under a separate heading.
- 6. I don't have any knowledge of modern MGs; I only have this on my Watchlist as a few years ago I parked near to one and chatted to the driver. This was repeated a couple of months ago, when the (then)new owner showed me MG3, stating it was based on an out-of-production small Rover (25?).
- Thank you.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 23:02, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
- The EV is mentioned at Roewe i5.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 03:48, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
Confused article
editThe article can't decide if it is just about the UK subsidiary, or about MG Motor and its international scope. There would be benefit from further tidying up to recognise this as a global marque of SAIC, with a presence in a variety of countries, and could have a UK section or as India has done, develop a UK only page which might be of interest to UK readers given the more complicated history post collapse of MG Rover in Longbridge. Warren (talk) 23:18, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like we still have confusion over MG as a marque and MG and its UK specific operations. I would propose that this article is evolved into a more international perspective and have sections for market specific elements. Warren (talk) 14:18, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Warren Whyte, I agree that the article needs a complete rework, but I'm not sure what it should cover. I think it was originally written to cover the new company created in the UK by Nanjing Automobile Corporation (NAC), to sell Chinese-built MGs and to build MG TFs in the UK. It was never intended to cover the manufacture of MG-branded cars elsewhere though. That UK venture was short-lived though, and a lot of water has passed under the MG bridge since then. Clearly this article has little value now, although I think MG Motor UK still exists as a purely British company, but now only sells cars and no longer manufactures them.
- Who builds MGs these days - is it SAIC (in the same way that BMW builds Minis in BMW-named plants) or is there a subsidiary or subsidiaries with "MG" in their name(s) that build them? And in which countries are they built?
- I guess we need some good sources detailing the history of MG-branded vehicles since NAC bought the tools and the brand name (but they never got hold of the old MG Car Company itself). -- DeFacto (talk). 15:45, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- There is an argument to keep this a UK page as the UK story is quite specific, and there is already a MG India page, but to keep the China and other international topics on the SAIC page who builds all the cars and owns the marque. Warren (talk) 17:16, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
The origin of the name MG is missing from the article's top area
editWhy is this information not included in the supposedly all-inclusive Wiki article? ... "MG stands for Morris Garages, a British brand founded in 1924 by William Morris. The name pays homage to Morris, who owned the garages where MG's founder, Cecil Kimber, worked. Kimber chose the name as a mark of respect." This is from the Google AI answer, from here: https://www.google.com/search?q=what does the mg in mg cars stand for?&oq=what does the mg in mg cars stand for?&aqs=chrome..69i57.15417j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Jeffrey Adams 001 (talk) 12:29, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- It's deliberate. The history of MG is not here, but on MG cars. Andra Febrian (talk) 14:17, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Differences with MG cars article
editI have no objection to both articles existing. But some issues need to be clarified. What exactly is the relationship between the MG cars article and the MG Motor article? What are the differences?
LK (talk) 02:38, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- To put it simply:
- MG cars = 1924–present (after 2005, there's a hatnote to direct readers to MG Motor as the main article)
- MG Motor = 2005–present, the Chinese automaker Andra Febrian (talk) 06:17, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- To put it another way:
- MG cars =
- 1. The story of the M.G. Car Company from 1930 until 1972
- 2. The story of the MG marque from 1924 to present, including the period between 1972 (when the M.G. Car Company became defunct) and 2005 (when MG Motor acquired the marque)
- MG Motor = The story of the Chinese motor company that acquired the MG marque (but not the company that previously used it) in 2005
- MG cars =
- Should we perhaps split the story of the MG marque into a separate article? -- DeFacto (talk). 11:45, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- To put it another way: