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In now-deleted tweets, SZA claimed that she would be redoing Lana all over again because three of her songs (I assume they were "Joni", "Work It", and "Protect My Heart" but I don't see RS talking about it) were leaked, but a day later she said: "Will be dropping the leaks and outtakes from SOS as promised as the deluxe asap. Lana deserves more time and music no oneโs ever heard before. Seems fair. Bless." Now, I assume she was being very particular with her words here and said the actual deluxe will not consist of new material, which implies Lana is an entirely new project. This tracks with what she previously said about Lana evolving into its new album. Thoughts? โย ย Eliasย ๐ชย (dreaming of Saturn; talk here) 05:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
@AskeeaeWiki I agree with the first and last bits...but secondary sources are currently reporting "Saturn" is intended for Lana right now, so I am ambivalent to changing it. Further, while "DTM" is likely staying on Lana because it was made after SOS and nobody technically leaked it, that might mean songs like "Boy from South Detroit", previewed back in 2021; "PSA", previewed in 2022 before the official SOS teaser; and "Joni", dropped in 2021 and has since had its verse with Don Toliver leaked, will be for the actual deluxe instead because they probably are outtakes. We should keep an eye out for that deluxe soon so the article for Lana, as well as SOS, can be updated accordingly. โย ย Eliasย ๐ชย (dreaming of Saturn; talk here) 05:49, 27 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
I agree with waiting for the SOS Deluxe drop to make any changes. Artists change their plans a lot, so weโll have to wait and see what makes it onto the deluxe to be sure what is intended for Lana and what is not. Flabshoe1 (talk) 09:55, 27 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Flabshoe1, I know you said to wait for changes, but jfyi, Rolling Stone just reported on the topic and came to the same conclusion: "Last night, SZA further addressed the issue in a series of tweets, confirming the deluxe edition of SOS will now feature 'the leaks and outtakes' and Lana will be its own thing." If a reliable source makes this interpretation, is it at the very least safe to edit the article to signify Lana is now SZA's third studio album? We can edit the rest of the article such that it doesn't explicitly say "DTM" etc. will be on Lana. โย ย Eliasย ๐ชย (dreaming of Saturn; talk here) 13:09, 27 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Since it's been reported by a secondary source, I think it is fair to include that in the article for Lana, explaining that it was initially intended to be the deluxe but has now become its own project/release (instead of studio album, because I don't think SZA or any secondary source has confirmed the length of the new project). Likewise, the other songs can be edited to say they are intended for the deluxe of SOS, originally entitled Lana before that became a separate project. Flabshoe1 (talk) 13:58, 27 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hey @Your Power, thanks for thinking of me! To be honest, I've been refraining from adding content to SZA-related articles recently because, as we all know, news with her changes so often. Her releases have been too chaotic for me to keep up with past being a casual listener, and her career has been all over the place. I haven't been keeping up with much SOS/Lana news, but IMO, the Rolling Stone piece is convincing enough for me to consider this her third studio album. I don't understand how a project originally intended to be a deluxe edition for an album becomes a new project, a reissue, then a new body of work unrelated to the album it was created to be a deluxe for? It's just too confusing for me. Dylx15:58, 28 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Dylx: Yeah I fear there's a lot going on. I saw on Twitter (and my SoundCloud account) her label's been taking down three songs ("Potting Season" / "PSA", "Nightbird", "Take You Down") from the platform since a few hours ago, so I think we're way past the point that we remain confused on whether the deluxe and Lana are the same thing --- the songs are getting copyright striked, which means their official release is soon. โย ย Eliasย ๐ชย (dreaming of Saturn; talk here) 03:42, 29 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
@AskeeaeWiki TDE and RCA explicitly confirmed the two are the same minutes after I posted. So at this point, I'm certain we can let this weird saga of the Lana/deluxe lore go. The article and all associated pages have already been updated accordingly, it seems. One thing about SZA she will change her mind about things last-minute I guess. ๐คทโโ๏ธ Elias / PSA ๐๏ธ๐ช [please make some noise]15:04, 10 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
They all have enough coverage. Just like remixes including "Die for You" (Remix). I also don't know where you got the information that it is a "reissue". Most (if not all) say it is SOS deluxe. The aforementioned source clearly states "Lana serves as the deluxe edition to SZAโs critically and commercially acclaimed sophomore album SOS". dxneo (talk) 13:39, 17 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
We have sources like The AV Club, Billboard, and Uproxx calling it one. Also, that Billboard Philippines source you linked also says it's a reissue so I don't know how you got that statement. Either way, Lana is not your average deluxe edition; if it were, then yes a merge might be called for. This deluxe/reissue difference lies in how many of the songs on Lana were recorded after SOS's release. ("DTM" / "Diamond Boy" is given as an example in the article). For some that weren't mentioned, this track called "Take You Down" is also new. Elias / PSA ๐๏ธ๐ช [please make some noise]14:19, 17 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
It's still a deluxe. Maybe AfD can solve this since it will get more attention and thorough assessment there. dxneo (talk) 14:31, 17 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
yes this is a deluxe but i think since it has a different name and is expected to have a significant number of new tracks and many songs were recorded for it after the release of SOS it should have its own page 45.150.172.52 (talk) 15:43, 17 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
It really is not article-wise... so much has been written in RS about this article's subject, from the amount of tracks to the delays to the aesthetic to the leaks. Feel free to initiate the AFD yourself, but WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS applies here. You have to argue that this article goes against GNG, not just because you compared it to one article. Elias / PSA ๐๏ธ๐ช [please make some noise]22:50, 17 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Exactly. It does not make sense to merge considering the amount of coverage and how high-profile "Lana" is. Using "Scarlet 2 Claude" as an example does not make much sense considering 1) less songs 2) promoted less 3) got less media coverage. Pxlpixx (talk) 13:00, 19 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Like I said before, they all have enough coverage, but I will not be bold and jump to conclusions. Instead, I will wait and see how this plays out after a week or so, then I'll decide if this should be taken to AfD where it will receive more attention from experienced editors. dxneo (talk) 19:39, 19 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
