Talk:Kerner Optical

Merge?

It's unclear to me why this is a separate article. Was Kerner a separate organization or not? Robert K S (talk) 09:04, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind--the answer is hidden in the "History" section of the article. I will update the lead. Robert K S (talk) 09:06, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

I think Kerner Optical was the name that Lucasfilm used to hide the real nature of the business from movie fans and that the new business is the Kerner Group or KernerFX. (76.234.120.77 (talk) 04:00, 22 October 2009 (UTC))

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This looks like a lot of duplication to me from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Light_&_Magic It needs to be made clear the relationships between LucasFilm, ILM, Kerner Optical and the newly formed company that still operates on the same site.

Basically, it seems that ILM had most of their operations at a place which was called Kerner Optical, mainly so everyone who loves Star Wars didn't turn up and try to knock down the doors to see inside. However, George decided to move the operation, and sold part or all of the facilities but presumably not the staff and probably not most of the equipment.

Anything else should go in the ILM article. 87.194.30.115 (talk) 16:55, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

That is partially correct. When Lucas moved into the studios after Star Wars, he put up a sign for The Kerner Company - Optical Research and Development. They traded as Kerner -- internal paperwork, invoices and shipping documentation all listed KERNER as the company name. In fact, ILM employees also used KERNER.com (NOT ILM.com) email addresses until recently. In about 2005 ILM split in two -- Digital and Physical. Digital moved to the Presidio in San Fran and physical remained at the original Kerner Studios. A year later the physical company -- along with all the tools and equipment and much of the staff were acquired during an MBO and was, then, no longer part of Lucasfilm. In the four years since "Kerner" has continued doing the same kind of work they did as ILM and branched out into government work and 3D camera equipment. Not sure if this helps... but it seems like a single article for "Kerner Group" makes the most sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.176.237.7 (talk) 21:00, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

When I worked at LucasArts (which was physically and corporately removed from ILM), the lore was that the signs were already there from a previous company that went bankrupt. They were simply left in place. - Richfife (talk) 16:31, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

I had a shop down the street and did little jobs for them around 1980 ... made some parts for their cameras and so on. It was just "The Kerner Company" then, not Kerner Optical and there were no signs. I don't think the above is correct, that whole area was newly built-up then, they were probably the firt tenants in that building. Kind of funny, they went so far out of their way to be secretive they'd answer the phone "oh two two oh" which was the last four digits of their number. So after the first few times, I'd answer "Great ! This is oh four five nine and your parts are ready ! g'bye !" I thought it was pretentious of them, no one knew about "The Kerner Company" and Lucas wasn't a big deal yet. But the guys there were pretty nice. 203.160.86.97 (talk) 12:10, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Deleting 'Milestones' and 'Filmography' as ILM - it's all covered at Industrial Light & Magic, where it belongs

Earlier comments here, and on the old Talk:KernerFX page, point out very correctly that this article is full of lists duplicating material from the main Industrial Light & Magic page. There's no need for that; the other page is the main item, and is linked prominently here. I think the lists in Milestones and Filmography 'as ILM' just need to be deleted here. Here, it's just a lot of bulk that gets in the way of the specific focus of this article. It's been suggested for a long time, and no one has disagreed. I'm going to do so. Thanks. Ale And Quail (talk) 20:50, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

I can see the page still needs some cleanup, where it starts the describing the history of ILM as the history of 'Kerner'. At the end there is another section about how the Kerner name was a front (until the 2006 sale). Those should probably be combined and clarified. I'll try to do that later. Ale And Quail (talk) 20:58, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Added a link to a Youtube video made by Kerner Optical of their work there on Pirates of the Caribbean. Kerner Optical had a camera-manufacturing shop and did some pioneering work in 3D cameras. That was spun off as yet another company before the bankruptcy.[1] They also developed FrameFree, [2] a scheme for video compression without frames, which allows projection at arbitrarily high frame rates by interpolation or arbitrarily slow slow motion. There was a browser FrameFree plug-in for play, and an authoring tool, FrameFree Studio. That came out in 2006 and seems to have disappeared in 2011. The FrameFree technology for decomposing video into layers and interpolating on a per-layer basis was later used for generating "fake 3D" from 2D images, but I'm not sure how that came out. (I'm sad to hear that the company went out of business. They did good work. I'd been up there in 2007 and met many of their people. Employees stayed there forever; someone who had been there five years was still the new guy.) --John Nagle (talk) 19:33, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Bias

This is the first time I visit this page, and it immediately stood out that the article seems to be strongly biased against Eric Edmeades (about whom I know nothing.) I know far too little about the subject to edit it, so I've added a POV tag. Asav | Talk 23:33, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

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