Talk:Inductive effect

Latest comment: 22 days ago by 98.17.42.35 in topic News

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This page needs some seroius attention by someone who knows more about chemistry than myself. i'm sure that the inductive effect is more involved than what is written and, considering this concept is the backbone of reactions, should be fleshed out.

Sigma Bonds only means through which induction occurs?

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In a disambiguation page for "induction" the present page's topic is described as being mediated through sigma bonds. Is there any reason that this narrow language should be used? While surely that's the most relevant concept, I see no reason why pi bonds couldn't have inductive effects, for example. Searches of the literature reveal usage of the term induction to describe effects mediated through interactions other than sigma bonds. Any reason why the sigma specification shouldn't be dropped in the disambiguation page and in this article as necessary to eliminate incorrect inference of exclusivity in fact or in definition?00:18, 6 December 2010 (UTC)~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Δζ (talkcontribs)

I would suggest that unless this idea that the inductive effect only occurs through sigma bonds can have some kind of a reference, that the sentence "It is present in a σ (sigma) bond, unlike the electromeric effect which is present in a π (pi) bond." should just be removed. Skihatboatbike (talk) 18:58, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Bond polarization and bond energy

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I see that there is some mention of bond polarization in the article, but the quantitative connection of the inductive effect to the bond polarization is not clear.--109.166.137.226 (talk) 21:53, 18 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

@109.166.137.226 In which lines of the article? Shibodh Singh (talk) 04:51, 30 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Inductive effect definition of class 13

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Inductive effect definition 103.51.55.166 (talk) 14:14, 7 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

News

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Phys.org (Nov 29, 2024) describes a paper from a team at Cardiff U (Elliot, et al*) with the title "Alkyl groups in organic molecules are NOT inductively electron-releasing [relative to hydrogen]" Title says it all.(If you understand that "electron-releasing" is the exact opposite of "electron-withdrawing".) It directly contradicts this article's lead. The authors recognize their findings upset ~100 yrs of Organic Chemistry and will require changes in most OChem textbooks. Of course, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence so a single paper isn't sufficient to change the textbooks. Is it notable enough to deserve mention here? IDK. (*published in Organic & Biomolecular Chemistry, Nov 12, 2024; DOI https://doi.org/10.1039/D4OB01572J)98.17.42.35 (talk) 10:02, 30 November 2024 (UTC)Reply