Talk:History of Chincoteague, Virginia

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Wehwalt in topic "Ironclad" Louisiana
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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that a major event in the history of Chincoteague, Virginia, was the 1947 publication of a children's book about a local horse?
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Reviewer: Khazar2 (talk · contribs) 17:45, 13 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

I'll be glad to take this one; comments to follow in the next 4-7 days. Thanks in advance for your work on it! -- Khazar2 (talk) 17:45, 13 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for that.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:52, 13 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Okay, this looks very good on a first pass. I'll sit down later this afternoon and do a few source checks, look at image licensing, etc., but I don't anticipate any problems there. A few comments below in the meantime:

  • Not an action point, but just wanted to comment that the picture of the pony swim is quite lovely. Actually, this has excellent images throughout.
  • " initiation of dedicated steamboat service Chincoteague and Franklin City in 1876" -- should this have a "between" or a "to" in it?
  • Chincoteague Inlet, a break in the barrier island system, occurs near Chincoteague Island, at the southern end of Assateague Island, that shelters Chincoteague from the Atlantic and that stretches north almost thirty miles to Ocean City, Maryland. -- could this be split into two sentences? The clauses pile up here in a slightly confusing way.
  • "a majority for leaving the Union was had" -- the "was had" here seems a bit awkward; is it possible to just say "there was also a majority for leaving the Union in..."
  • "got in hot water" -- should be rewritten per WP:IDIOM-- but hilarious detail -- Khazar2 (talk) 16:42, 15 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
I agree on the ponies, the only thing I wonder is if the top and right side should be cropped a bit to make the horses bigger … I've done what you've suggested so far, thanks for reviewing.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:05, 15 October 2013 (UTC)Reply


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Significant part of early history of Jengoteag Island

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Looks like someone may have missed something in the history of Jengoteag Island. On 02 Oct 1672, all 5,800 acres of Jengoteag Island were granted to Capt. William Whittington.[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by AdmPope (talkcontribs) 13:40, 21 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Capt. Jennifer's grant of patent was in 1677 (not 1671)

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Captain Whittington [who was granted the Island of Jengoteag in 1672] failed to complete his title and in 1677 the same land was granted by patent to Captain Daniel Jenifer. In Captain Jenifer’s grant it is described as ‘being on the seaboard side in the upper part of the county (Accomac), it being the next island to the northward of Keckotank alias Occocomson’ (now called Wallop’s Island).[2]AdmPope (talk) 13:50, 21 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Feel free to make changes, adding sources. I no longer have the sources I used when I wrote this 9 years ago.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:15, 21 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

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  1. ^ Land Office Patents No. 6, 1666-1679 (pt.1 & 2 p.1-692), p. 421 (Reel 6).; Part of the index to the recorded copies of patents for land issued by the Secretary of the Colony serving as the colonial Land Office. The collection is housed in the Archives at the Library of Virginia.
  2. ^ Staton, John W. “Chincoteague One of Virginia’s Most Interesting Spots: No Trace of Her Settlers.” The Countryside Transformed: The Railroad and the Eastern Shore of Virginia, 1870-1935. Jan 11, 1903. https://eshore.iath.virginia.edu/node/1858 (accessed Jun 20, 2022).

Language

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Shouldn't we really include the name of the Chincoteague Indians' language instead of just saying "Native American" and "their language"? I made that edit but it was reverted because I guess the person who reverted it didnt believe me that the Chincoteague Indians also known as the Assateague speak Nanticoke. To be honest I got this information from the Assateague page and so if its wrong that page should be changed too. Thomas Norren (talk) 14:01, 27 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

It seems a bit WP:SYNTHy to me. I'd rather stick as closely to the source as possible. If there are additional sources that directly say what "Chincoteague" means, or that it is actually a word (s) in their language, that would be good to add.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:11, 27 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

"Ironclad" Louisiana

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Does the source used really refer to USS Louisiana as an ironclad? An iron-hulled vessel isn't the same thing and I haven't seen sources referring to Louisiana as an ironclad proper. Hog Farm Talk 18:35, 27 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

I don't have the source anymore but I doubt I would have paraphrased it.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:43, 27 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
Having dug into it a bit more, sources specializing in Civil War warships don't call it an ironclad, including Silverstone's fairly authoritative Civil War Navies. I'd recommend referring to it just as a steamship, as the claim of it being an ironclad does not seem to be widely accepted. Hog Farm Talk 00:08, 28 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
I removed the word and will let it stand at that.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:01, 28 July 2022 (UTC)Reply