Talk:Greene King

Requested move 10 May 2018

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The result of the move request was: page moved. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:04, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

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Greene King Brewery → Greene King – The company is not called "Greene King Brewery", and I think that "Greene King" is also the WP:COMMONNAME. The BBC calls it "Greene King" [1], as does the Guardian [2], the Telegraph [3],The Times [4], and local newspaper, the East Anglian Daily Times [5]. Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 08:44, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Comment: See User_talk:SilkTork#Greene_King and Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Beer#Change_brewery_titles?. And the naming convention in question: WP:Brewery name. The standard use of an initial capital in brewery articles is a mistake when a brewery/brewery company does not have Brewery as part of its name, and there is a proposal to change that across all brewery articles. So the issue here is if it is appropriate to use "brewery" as a standard disambiguator when there is no product with the same name (unlike Guinness, Fosters, Coors, Heineken, etc, there is no beer just called Greene King). The use of "brewery" to clarify a brewery company is widespread, and includes Greene King: [6], [7], [8], so the usage of "brewery" after the name of the company is acceptable, and is more WP:Natural than using a parenthetical disambiguation. However, it is not always necessary, and so we come down to WP:CONCISE v WP:MOSAT and Consistency. While we can assess these articles on a case by case basis, we generally prefer to have name conventions standardised, so it might be appropriate to consider all the brewery articles across Wikipedia where "brewery" is not a formal part of the name, and is used to identify that the article is about the company not the product. SilkTork (talk) 10:47, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Support (naming it Greene King). We should use the company name. Dormskirk (talk) 20:58, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose and close per WP:MOSAT and Consistency as this is a naming convention. Discussions related to changing existing naming conventions should be held at the relevant convention talkpage or WikiProject. A discussion was in place at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Beer#Change_brewery_titles?, and further discussion is best placed there. @ Dormskirk, would you consider giving your views at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Beer#Change_brewery_titles? as there is a need for greater involvement in that discussion, which has implications for all brewery articles rather than just this one. SilkTork (talk) 13:30, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
• Support per WP:COMMONNAME. Doesn't need disambiguation, so no problem. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:21, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
• Support, this is the evident WP:COMMONNAME.--Cúchullain ^t/c 19:15, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

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Ageism and Questionable Music

Could something be said about some of the dodgy teen music played in GK pubs? Since GK have a good mix of customers and ages - might not their pubs have a reasonable mix of sounds? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.149.166.157 (talk) 19:46, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

I totally agree with the sentiment behind this suggestion. But it would not be appropriate to mention it in the article. It is not Wikipedia's job to present this sort of opinion - however much you and I agree with it. We can only summarise what reliable sources say about it. Mike Marchmont (talk) 11:57, 16 November 2023 (UTC)