Talk:German resistance to Nazism
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editSplit into civilian and military resistance
editThe article is reaching very large proportions >188k (60k to 100k is split territory). Wonder if we could do a split like German military resistance to Nazism and German civilian resistance to Nazism. Skimming the article there would be:
- Military sections: 8
- Civilian sections: 7
- Mixed: 2 (Introduction/Nadir of resistance)
A somewhat even split. The elephant in the room is the Tresckow-Goerdeler/20 July plot but I think could be put under military. Thoughts? @Prüm: @HopsonRoad: @Nick-D: @Historygypsy: (Previous split discussion) - MTWEmperor (talk • contribs) 05:50, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- I would not split this way. I would prefer it if the somewhat short-ish related articles, like Oster conspiracy, Red Orchestra (espionage), Kreisau Circle and so forth, would be expanded, at the expense of this one. --Prüm (talk) 16:28, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- Some of them I think might be too short for that though. Others already have their own - MTWEmperor (talk • contribs) 21:15, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- Reply to the "Split " suggestion. There was no split in the resistance, and no organized resistance. The various plots were ad hoc, and involved military and civilian people except for a fe "Lone Wolf" plotters. I live beside Caspar, the last remaining son of Helmuth James Graf von Moltke and his wife Freya. I have read a great deal about the Kreisau circle and talked to Caspar about his father and others. The circle only met informsly and only 3 times, and there were only a very small few at those meetings. Most of the anti-Nazi people did not even know of the others. Perhaps Admiral Canaris knew, as he was head of the Abwehr. Historygypsy (talk) 02:10, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Antifascist committees at Zero Hour
editA notable omission from this page is the Antifascist Committees (or Antifa) who took over most towns and cities in Germany shortly before or after the Allies arrived. They were mostly made up of Social-Democrats and Communists, and were most prominent in historical bastions of the German labor movement such as Leipzig. Though their existence was brief, they were probably the most widespread instance of German resistance to Nazism, so their absence here is glaring. Someone ought to write a section on them, especially seeing as they seem to be completely absent from Wikipedia. I may do it at some point in the future, though it would be based on this single book as a source. [1] Nicknimh (talk) 00:17, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
References
- ^ Pritchard, Gareth. The Making of the GDR, 1945-53.
Simon Sebag Montefiore's German soldier
editIn Simon Sebag Montefiore's The Court of the Red Tzar he talks about a German Communist soldier in the German Army during Operation Barbarossa who during the invasion leaves his invading unit, swims across a river and travels to USSR soldiers to warm them of a massive German invasion. The Soviet commander gets on the phone to Stalin, Stalin talks to him, says he's a liar and to shoot him, so he was killed on the spot. Does anybody know any more about who that soldier was? If so, he should be in this article. 2A02:8084:6A20:4600:5480:244A:F356:6835 (talk) 23:47, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
Dietrich bondhoeffer and the confessing church
editThey are still admired for their courage 197.185.101.232 (talk) 17:27, 6 April 2022 (UTC)