Talk:Fellini's Casanova

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BetacommandBot (talk) 07:01, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

rowing across the plastic bags

This is truly what was done. It is completely visible that he is rowing with rain and wind and the plastic bags are stretched out loosely at the waterline and billowing from the wind. If you're just dreaming and don't look, it completely fools you into thinking it's water. But anybody looking at the water will see what it is. I worked with a film crew for some years and this is the kind of thing I saw any time they needed an outdoor shot and couldn't leave the studio. Quite crazy, but look at the movie. You'll fall down laughing.69.122.62.231 (talk) 19:21, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Great movie. Saw it at the student theater in Portland with my first wife. Left and it was starting to snow. 98.246.183.207 (talk) 13:14, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Astrology

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Astrological Correspondences in Fellini's Casanova

In his screenplay , Fellini uses the literary conceit of a retrograde Venus to represent each of Casanova's major lovers. Because of cutting, rewriting, and Fellini's spontaneous improvisations, the original script's sequence is obscured. From Maddalena the Nun to Susanna the Hunchback, Casanova traverses the astrological zodiac in reverse order searching for the perfect woman till he encounters his mother, then his daughter, and finally a mechanical doll. Here is a list of correspondences:

LOVER	ICON	SIGN
Maddalena	Nun	Pisces	EXALTATION
Barberina	Fat	Cetus
AnnaMaria	Bleeding	Aquarius
Madame D'Urfé	Wizardry	Capricorn
Marcolina	Horses	Sagittarius
Fiorenza	Condoms	Scorpio	DETRIMENT (cut)
Henriette	Grace	Libra	RULER
Mother & Daughter	Witches	Virgo	FALL
Giant Woman	Circus	Leo
Ismail	MoonPool	Cancer	(cut from film)
Young Girl	Youths	Gemini	(cut from film)
Isabella	Beauty	Taurus	RULER (rewritten)
Susanna	Beasts	Aries	DETRIMENT

The screenplay itself provides evidence for Fellini's intention to include astrological associations. The icon list above mentions only one such reference per related scene. Casanova falls in love with two women: Henriette and Isabella. Each represents an astrological sign where Venus rules: Libra and Taurus. (In the movie, the scenes with Isabella are replaced by a Roman orgy followed by two sisters who practice alchemy, one of whom is named Isabella.) Contrariwise, when Casanova encounters women representing astrological signs where Venus is in astrological detriment, Scorpio and Aries, a hunchback appears. Casanova is most exalted at the beginning of the movie, during the festival of Venus, with a young nun who represents Pisces, the astrological sign where Venus is exalted. Casanova begins his fall from grace when he unpleasantly breaks up with a mother and daughter. Virgo is associated with Demeter, or Ceres, goddess of the harvest time, and also with the astrological sign where Venus is in fall. Obviously, Fellini cared more about making a cinematically sensible movie than following a rigid esoteric formula. Perhaps only Donald Sutherland can tell us if the deleted scenes were ever filmed.

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