Talk:Diamond Bar High School

Official School Website

http://diamondbarhigh.net/ is the official [Diamond Bar High School] website. Do not change without discussing on this talk page. 71.105.214.182 (talk) 05:35, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: websites

Both DBHSusb.org and walnutvalley.k12.ca.us/dbhs are official websites. DBHSusb.org was created by the student body while the other was created by a class. Igeoffi 06:27, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

DBHSusb.org has updated resources. We'll put this link first in the article since both are main websites and both are official websites. Igeoffi 05:25, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[comment removed by author]. Igeoffi 02:56, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

DBHS.org is outdated. Remove all instances from article and replace with diamondbarhigh.net. 71.105.214.182 (talk) 06:39, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism

This public forum of information is not meant to be a place of vandalism. If you have a necessity to vandalize, pick up a pen and a piece of paper, and have fun. -- Too many people are vandalizing this Diamond Bar High School site. Stop this, for Wikipedia is a site that we all use to get NECESSARY information, not opinionated bias.

A certain DBHS alum who has become a celebrity does not like the notation of her name on this page. This isn't her personal page; she has become a notable alumnae, and constant vandalism (removing her name) takes away from the ACCURACY of this page. --

Whoever would like for that celebrity to be mentioned in this page, find a reference. Add that reference to the page, but remember that this encyclopedia caters to all of us, so the tone of this article needs to be appropriate. Quite frankly, the mention of some things is really quite unnecessary and takes away from the integrity of Wikipedia in general. This article should not be a forum for personal vengeance.

I'd Like to Note that None of the other Alumni have any references. If we must keep insisting to remove that person all the time for no reference, we might as well remove all the other alumni on the list that has no citation.

05:14 Sept 11, 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.35.220.59 (talk) 09:15, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Until a legitimate and verifiable refernece is found, keep the disputable information off. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by A786m (talk • contribs) 16:17, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

"The mention of some things is really quite unnecessary and takes away from the integrity ..." -- what a crock of bull. This is an encyclopedia. Facts are not "quite unnecessary." The repeated removal of the reference is VANDALISM by a celebrity who appears to be ashamed of her field. Why is it? As posted by said celebrity elsewhere, there is nothing wrong with the porn world, and I agree. No judgments from this side, just facts. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.232.171.184 (talk) 23:13, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

To me, it is quite obvious that you have some personal vendetta with some other individual, Wikipedia has become your means to achieve it, leaving Diamond Bar High School in the cross fire. If you want the world to know about this individual than CITE A REFERENCE, or make a seperate page for this individual. But don't make this encyclopedia your slandering forum. Also, please use better language. Although I have many things to say to you, my writing is appropriate. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by A786m (talk • contribs) 03:08, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

To me it is quite obvious that you are deeply ashamed that you have become a celebrity and wish to keep your identity secret. Slander is a heavy charge, and I would think the subject of this little tete-a-tete would not be happy with such careless accusations. Again, you are trying to moralize fact, and you are stating that this celebrity's chosen profession is not honorable. Who are you to make such a judgment? This celebrity, from DBHS, is a worthy person who has become a notable alum of this school. Why do you want to deny her this? You care not at all for the factuality of this page, you want it to be your personal forum. Quit VANDALIZING this page.

I think that you have confused with someone else, and you are deeply mistaken is saying that "...you have become a celberity and wish to keep your identity secret". Do not accuse me of being this individual, for I am just a incredibly angered usurper of Wikipedia, checking to see what they are saying about my school. In what world is becoming that said profession notable and honorable? If you wish to carry out some embarrasment of this individual, create your own article regarding this person. But, I think it is you who is trying to biasly put in information on this site. Next thing we know, every single individual who graduates from this school will be putting their name under the notable alumni section. You obviously have something against this individual, as you previously stated about the person, "...who appears to be ashamed of her field...". How many times, and what language must I mention it - CITE A REFERENCE, and prove that the person is indeed a notable alumni. —Preceding unsigned comment added by A786m (talk • contribs) 18:05, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

Why do you argue this profession is not notable nor honorable? What have you got against porn and a person's choice to work in the field? What makes you God? As for references, they're all over the Internet, but the most telling, I would say, would be the person's admissions on the SDUncensored site. A porn star is nothing more than an actor, and their filmography is considerable. She is notable within her field, and as a Diamond Bar High alum -- she acknowledges the fact in one of her films -- she is a notable alum. No embarrassment for her at all. Why do you keep moralizing fact -- fact has no morals. You acknowlege you are an "incredibly angered usurper" -- that is hardly a reasonable position to edit a FACTUAL ENCYCLOPEDIA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.232.207.114 (talk) 22:55, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

Quite frankly, I don't really care if her references are all over the internet. Post a verifiable and legitimate reference for this information. But even then, it is impossible to prove that that field is notable - I know many people who are graduates of Diamond Bar High School, and to some, their professions might be considered notable, but still, it would not be justfied to put their name on that list. Likewise, as it seems this person is your acquaintance, trying to put her name up here is not justifiable either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by A786m (talk • contribs) 01:35, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

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Too many people are vandalizing this Diamond Bar High School site. Stop this, for Wikipedia is a site that we all use to get NECESSARY information, not opinionated bias. 0 A certain DBHS alum who has become a celebrity does not like the notation of her name on this page. This isn't her personal page; she has become a notable alumnae, and constant vandalism (removing her name) takes away from the ACCURACY of this page.

Please find a verifiable reference/source. Please do not re-edit the Notable Alumni section to add it back in without citing a source.

Igeoffi 22:24, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

in that case should I add yearbook pictures of Stephanie Hwang (Tiffany from Girls' Generation)? or korean audio clip of her saying shes from diamond bar? Ahhyala 05:11, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Lists_of_people No. Igeoffi 05:05, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Igeoffi, you know what wikipedia is about? putting factual information non-biasedly to be accessed by everyone. When a bunch of DBHS students and alumni add to the page and you delete it calling it vandalism, you are not honoring the principles of this website. Maybe putting the name of pornstars is immoral, but the scandle is a fact and does no personal damage to anyone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.81.48.232 (talk) 20:32, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

76.81.48.232, unless the person is really notable by Wikipedia standards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Lists_of_people), I don't see how this is biased. The name currently listed under notable alumni list fit the standards set by Wikipedia. Igeoffi (talk) 00:08, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Notable Alumni Section

Please stop adding names to the notable alumni section unless it complies with wikipedia guidlines on notable people.

Igeoffi 02:24, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Basic_criteria Igeoffi (talk) 00:10, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Website and protection

I've now fully protected this article to prevent further edit warring over which link should be provided to the school's website. I've also temporarily removed the link altogether, so that neither choice gets the upper hand if nobody chooses to discuss this. If/when discussion occurs, and consensus determines the correct website, the page will be unprotected. - auburnpilot talk 16:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

To start discussion on this matter:

Basic Facts

• Both sites are maintained by Diamond Bar High School
• Both sites are owned by Diamond Bar High School
• Both sites have primarily the same content

Case for diamondbarhigh.net

• Newer site
• Updated content
• More organized
• More work
• Actively developed

Case against diamondbarhigh.net

• Still under construction
• Newer

Case for dbhs.org

• Was previously actively developed
• Use of more school colors
• Older

Case against dbhs.org

• Older site
• Legacy/old content
• Outdated content

Note: The argument is potentially skewed to a specific viewpoint on this matter.

--igeoffi (talk) 06:43, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Since silence implies consensus, diamondbarhigh.net and dbhsusb.org (combined) were listed as official websites for the majority of the page lifetime (once again, silent consensus), and that so far no other user has entered this discussion, is it safe to assume that the consensus is that diamondbarhigh.net/dbhsusb.org are the official website(s)?

In addition, earlier attempts (before edit lock) to start discussion on this matter was thwarted by one side.

Note: diamondbarhigh.net branched off from dbhsusb.org earlier this year.

My viewpoint is based on what what is on the history logs for the greatest amount of time and the perceived intentions of the users editing the page.

Summary: diamondbarhigh.net is the agreed official website

-igeoffi (talk) 23:14, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

dbhs.org should be the listed website.

Dbhs (talk) 17:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Official website

The official website has changed to www.dbhs.org. Walnut Valley Unified School District also links to the new site ( see link here. The www.dbhs.org URL points to this district-hosted site. Alanraywiki (talk) 05:06, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Other sites besides wikipedia don't list dbhs.org as the official site. 75.84.44.117 (talk) 20:46, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps a compromise could be made? List both? 75.84.44.117 (talk) 20:47, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

I think there is only one official site, and that is the one by the school district. Other sites may be appropriate under External links. Yelp and the like are not reliable sources to determine the official site. Alanraywiki (talk) 20:51, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Because there are only two of us discussing this issue on the talk page (although it has gone back and forth in edit summaries), it may be appropriate to get a third opinion to determine which site, dbhs.wvusd.k12.ca.us or www.diamondbarhigh.net, should be shown as the official site. I will go ahead and seek that. Alanraywiki (talk) 22:37, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Response to Your Third Opinion Request

Hello. This is a response to your recent request for a third opinion. The opinion offered here is not one that has any authority greater or more special than any participant's opinion here; it should not be considered a tiebreaker and does not count towards creating a sense of consensus; its purpose is merely to offer a fresh opinion from someone new to the situation.

Opinion. It looks as if dbhs.org is being actively maintained by the school district; it has an active scroller of school events occurring over the remainder of the month, whereas if you click on "News" on the diamondbarhigh.net site, you'll see that it's broken. It seems fairly obvious from firsthand evidence that the district is funneling its data through the dbhs.org site. Additionally, the mere fact of its address -- that it has both k12 and the State of California's official second-level domain in its URL -- lends it significant credibility as the official site. Also worth noting that both sites are registered to the high school, with the dhbs.org having a later expiration date, suggesting it has received attention more recently. WHOIS record for diamondbarhigh.net; WHOIS for dbhs.org. Anyway, that's my 2¢.

Next up. The purpose of a third opinion is to provide a single third opinion from an objective outsider who has no investment in an existing disagreement between two users; it is not meant to provide an ongoing mediation process. Mediation is available on Wikipedia from volunteer mediators, but not from third opinion volunteers.

Hopefully, my opinion has been of use. However, if the parties are still unable to resolve their differences, I suggest you proceed further into the dispute resolution process. Your options include a request for comment, noticeboard post, WikiProject post, wikiquette alert, or a request for either informal or formal mediation. Each of the links in that sentence should take you to a place where you can begin said process, although I suggest you begin small and work upwards.

If, despite this response and despite the limited role of a third-opinion provider, you feel further assistance is still needed, please indicate here your concerns, and then alert me to the need for further follow-up by clicking here to notify me on my talk page. (I may not have this page on my watchlist.) I will then post the requested follow-up here on this page. I suggest it be done this way to avoid ex parte discussions, or, more candidly, to prevent disagreements from migrating to my talk page. :) WCityMike 23:59, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Dispute resolution: Talk ⇨ Editor assistance ⇨ Third opinion ⇨ Request for comment ⇨ Wikiquette ⇨ Mediation (informal) ⇨ Mediation (formal) ⇨ Arbitration

Thank you, WCityMike, for the third opinion. Based on that, I believe that dbhs.wvusd.k12.ca.us should be the official link but that www.diamondbarhigh.net should be listed under External links because it is registered to the school. Alanraywiki (talk) 02:12, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

My position on this has now changed to that of Alanraywiki. However, dbhs.wvusd.k12.ca.us should be listed as the official link, not dbhs.org. Other than that, I agree that www.diamondbarhigh.net should still be listed under external links. This is not to say however, that the official website link will not change in the future if the situation warrants it. 75.84.44.117 (talk) 04:20, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

I agree with all those items. Alanraywiki (talk) 04:36, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Looks like we have consensus then. Thanks for updating the article page to reflect that. 75.84.44.117 (talk) 04:56, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

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Orphaned references in Diamond Bar High School

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Diamond Bar High School's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "NCES":

• From Walnut High School: "Walnut High". National Center for Education Statistics. Retrieved May 24, 2021.
• From Ruben S. Ayala High School: "Ruben S. Ayala High". National Center for Education Statistics. Retrieved August 31, 2021.
• From Diamond Ranch High School: "Diamond Ranch High". National Center for Education Statistics. Retrieved March 10, 2021.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 03:12, 12 December 2021 (UTC)