Talk:Counties of Northern Ireland

Arms

What are these arms of? I know that in English heraldic tradition, they would be granted to the county councils, rather than physical territory, but I don't know if Irish heraldic tradition would follow English here. Morwen - Talk 07:47, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Five of them are the arms of county councils granted in the 1950s to 1960s. Armagh county council never got a grant, and the ones shown on the page are those of Armagh UDC/The modern Armagh City council. This seems to be adopting GAA practice as the county team use the city's arms.

There is a habit among the manufacturers of souvenirs to call these the "county arms", which they aren't. Seeing as they are the arms of local authorities and not of "counties", and they no longer pertain to any local authority I'll take them off the page. If somebody wants a page on arms of Northern Ireland county councils, like the English page we can put them there.

Lozleader 08:39, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Am I right in saying then that the arms exist separate of the GAA, who seem to be the only body to use them? (Although the arms have been removed from this page I presume we're talking about the same ones that are on the individual county pages). beano 16:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Maps

Would it not be more useful and more aesthetically efficient to have the maps zoomed in a bit to show more detail, eg by removing the Republc of Ireland counties since this is an article about the Counties of Northern Ireland? beano 16:49, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Bit late, anyhoo, I don't really see the reason for having all the counties listed here with their introductions. I think we could completely remove them from this page altogether, keeping the first paragraph and table of the counties section. « Keith ^t/_e» 17:34, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Former County Londonderry?

"County Coleraine which was formed from the merging of the former County Londonderry"

Was there a former County Londonderry, as opposed to the current one? NotMuchToSay 14:42, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Don't know what happened to that section, no there wasn't. It should have been the other way round. « Keith t·e » 15:19, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

It has been worded worngly. The present County of Londonderry was the result of merging the former County of Coleraine with the Barony of Loughsholin from the County of Tyrone in the 1700's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.162.53.34 (talk) 23:52, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Bit late to respond to this but that is wrong. It happened between 1604-1610 not the 1700s. Mabuska ^(talk) 00:30, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Counties that border ROI

In this article, it states that County Antrim is one of two counties that don't border ROI. I'm sure this is wrong, as I live in NI.

County Fermanagh borders the Republic As does Co. Armagh As does Co. Tyrone As does Co. Londonderry As does Co. Down

Hmm....

Rachii66 21:40 October 8th 2008

Counties Fermanagh, Armagh, Tyrone and Londonderry all share a noticable land broder with the Irish Republic, the Counties of Donegal, Leitrim, Cavan, Monaghan, and Louth I presume. Thought County Down does share a short land broder as well as a longer marine broder between the northern coast of Carlingford Lough is County Down in Northern Ireland and the southern coast of Carlingford lough is in the County Louth. Thought general opinion is that County Down does not share a land broder with County Louth is wrong, but the land broder they do share is no more than about half a mile long. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.162.53.34 (talk) 00:00, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 October 2017

The correct name is Derry not Londonderry 2A02:8084:82:7200:881:AA6E:92B7:46BC (talk) 18:11, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Not done. Incorrect, the name of the county is County Londonderry. There has never been a County Derry in the history of Ireland, and County Londonderry was created from County Coleraine. County Derry is solely a colloquial term for the county and has never had any official standing. See Wp:DERRY. Canterbury Tail talk 18:22, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 October 2019

Londonderry be changed to Derry ItsGreenie (talk) 01:49, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Not done, the name of the county is to be County Londonderry as per WP:DERRY. For additional background information, County Derry is a purely colloquial term for County Londonderry, the official county was created as County Londonderry mostly from the old County Coleraine. Canterbury Tail talk 11:51, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 October 2020

It is county Derry, Derry town is also known as Londonderry but the county is Derry 89.191.34.134 (talk) 15:56, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Not done. No other way round. County was created as County Londonderry. See the County Londonderry article for info, and the talk page of that article for a very recent discussion on this. Also see WP:DERRY. Canterbury Tail talk 16:11, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 November 2021

There is no county in Ireland named LondonDerry The county is named Derry Lestercullen (talk) 13:16, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. This is obviously going to be a whole thing, as seen above. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:18, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 May 2022

The county isn’t called londonderry. It’s called Derry. Change it. 185.213.132.17 (talk) 10:54, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. 💜  melecie  talk - 11:07, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 August 2022

Request to make clear, beside the name or as a note, the origin of the name Londonderry and that it is a change from the original Irish name 'Doire' made in the times of the plantation by colonists against the wishes of the people and that while not the official name, the people of Londonderry at large refer to the county as Derry. 84.203.64.103 (talk) 15:36, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. --Ferien (talk) 18:23, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 November 2022

Londonderry is not a place. The county is named Derry. 2A01:B340:61:3EED:E8D2:11B6:F275:5786 (talk) 18:23, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Not done. See County Londonderry for why the are was called County Londonderry and not County Derry. And WP:DERRY for the Wikipedia consensus on this matter. Canterbury Tail talk 18:30, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

The term "Ulster" on map section

Some of the maps have descriptions refering to the counties in Ulster, but only Northern Ireland is highlighted, Is this a mistake? 188.30.24.134 (talk) 17:16, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Not really. Northern Ireland didn't exist until 1921. It's highlighting the counties that later became Northern Ireland, but they were previously organised in Ulster. Canterbury Tail talk 17:45, 14 July 2023 (UTC)